Supreme Court's Ginsburg hospitalized with pancreatic cancer

She'll just be replaced by another socialist clone, appointed by the Kenyan POTUS.<IMHO> :p :mad: Whoop-de-CHANGE-do! :rolleyes:
 
Heh - we posted this at the exact same time. I'll ask that the threads be merged....your title is better. I was lazy.
 
What we need is another Sandra Day O'Connor. She didn't vote with the bloc. She voted each case on its merits. I don't remember any other justice doing that so consistently in my lifetime.
 
What we need is another Sandra Day O'Connor. She didn't vote with the bloc. She voted each case on its merits. I don't remember any other justice doing that so consistently in my lifetime.

We do NOT need another pinko Sandra Dang O'Connor, we need Originalists who lean conservertarian, Mike Lee would be good, Rand Paul would be better.
 
We do NOT need another pinko Sandra Dang O'Connor, we need Originalists who lean conservertarian, Mike Lee would be good, Rand Paul would be better.

Show me a Sandra Day O'Connor decision which is not constitutional. I dare you.
 
Show me a Sandra Day O'Connor decision which is not constitutional. I dare you.
Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992)
McConnell v. FEC (2003)
Grutter v. Bollinger (2003)
https://parade.com/125566/davidgergenandmichaelzuckerman/30-sandra-day-oconner-biggest-decisions/

Alaska Department of Environmental Conservation v. EPA (2004)
Tennessee v. Lane (2004)
https://www.aclu.org/other/cases-which-sandra-day-oconnor-cast-decisive-vote

I could dig up more but I have to go right now.
 
Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992)

O'Connor formed pluralities with both sides of that one, and the net effect was an erosion of Rowe v. Wade. What do you claim was unconstitutional about it?

McConnell v. FEC (2003).

I said the other day that you're a corporatist, and this seems to prove it. So, you agree with Mitch McConnell that corporations and unions should be able to spend any amount to buy politicians, even as people are restricted in their ability to try to outbid them in an effort to buy their own representatives?

I agree McCain-Feingold is far from perfect. But where does the constitution guarantee corporations and unions unlimited freedom to bribe Congress?

Grutter v. Bollinger (2003)

What part of that pisses you off? The fact that the decision does allow discrimination by race? Or the fact that it says discrimination by race should disappear completely by 2028?

In any case, how does any of it rise to the level of being unconstitutional?

Alaska Department of Environmental Conservation v. EPA (2004)

What, you'd have liked that case to have delegitimized the EPA and vindicated the Tenth Amendment? Yeah, so would I. The problem is, the plaintiffs did not challenge it on that basis. Justice Kennedy's dissent wasn't based on the Tenth for the same reason. If the plaintiffs had challenged it on that basis, they might have gotten somewhere. But they didn't, and O'Connor judged it on the only basis she could.

This is, per the constitution, how the court works.

Tennessee v. Lane (2004).

Do you seriously believe citizens should not be able to sue states? Do you even understand the issues behind any of these cases? Or are you just picking out cases where O'Connor did not side 100% with the Republican Party Faction, regardless of what the decision was, and labeling those unconstitutional?
 
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O'Connor formed pluralities with both sides of that one, and the net effect was an erosion of Rowe v. Wade. What do you claim was unconstitutional about it?
Upholding Roe v. Wade at all is unconstitutioinal.



I said the other day that you're a corporatist, and this seems to prove it. So, you agree with Mitch McConnell that corporations and unions should be able to spend any amount to buy politicians, even as people are restricted in their ability to try to outbid them in an effort to buy their own representatives?

I agree McCain-Feingold is far from perfect. But where does the constitution guarantee corporations and unions unlimited freedom to bribe Congress?
McCain-Feingold was an outright abridgement of the freedom of speech, in the first place corporations are groups of people and have a right to free speech and in the second any group that wished to speak out on politics was being muzzled so that only the MSM could influence voters.


What part of that pisses you off? The fact that the decision does allow discrimination by race? Or the fact that it says discrimination by race should disappear completely by 2028?

In any case, how does any of it rise to the level of being unconstitutional?
The fact that it allows it at all, a government entity must not discriminate based on race, all races are entitled to equal treatment under the law.



What, you'd have liked that case to have delegitimized the EPA and vindicated the Tenth Amendment? Yeah, so would I. The problem is, the plaintiffs did not challenge it on that basis. Justice Kennedy's dissent wasn't based on the Tenth for the same reason. If the plaintiffs had challenged it on that basis, they might have gotten somewhere. But they didn't, and O'Connor judged it on the only basis she could.

This is, per the constitution, how the court works.
Nothing in the Constitution limits the court to issues chosen by the plaintiffs or the defendants, SCOTUS has just as much right as a jury to declare a law unconstitutional on its own.



Do you seriously believe citizens should not be able to sue states? Do you even understand the issues behind any of these cases? Or are you just picking out cases where O'Connor did not side 100% with the Republican Party Faction, regardless of what the decision was, and labeling those unconstitutional?
The Americans with Disabilities Act is unconstitutional and the feds don't get to tell the states what to do.

Now let's move on to other cases:

Lee v. Weisman (1992)
Stenberg v. Carhart (2000)
McCreary County v. ACLU of Kentucky (2005)

https://www.aclu.org/other/cases-which-sandra-day-oconnor-cast-decisive-vote

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica] June 11, 1990: United States v. Eichman
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O'Connor dissents when the court rules that flag-burning is protected by the First Amendment.


[FONT=Arial,Helvetica] June 21, 1989: Texas v. Johnson
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O'Connor dissents as the court protects a citizen's right to make a political statement by burning s privately owned U.S. flag.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/01/AR2005070100654.html?noredirect=on


Then there is this:


[h=1]Sandra Day O'Connor defends Roberts on health care ruling[/h]Former Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor said Chief Justice John Roberts' deciding vote to largely uphold President Obama's health care law doesn't mean the usually conservative Justice or the Court are moving left. "I see it deciding a very sensitive case with political connotations," she said Sunday on CBS News' "Face the Nation."
The moderate O'Connor - many a time the deciding opinion during her tenure on the Court - would not say which way she would have voted on the hugely controversial law since she "didn't read the briefs or hear the argument." But she said it was a "hard case," and amid an onslaught of outrage from most Republicans defended Roberts' decision, reasoning that voting during an election season didn't make things easy on any of the Justices.
"Any time you're deciding a case involving a presidential election, it's awfully close to politics," she said.

More at: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sandra-day-oconnor-defends-roberts-on-health-care-ruling/
 
Upholding Roe v. Wade at all is unconstitutioinal.

Yeah, well, that's an opinion. O'Connor's opinion was that it was silly for a bunch of major decisions to be overturned every time a few members of the court changed. Both opinions have some merit.

McCain-Feingold was an outright abridgement of the freedom of speech, in the first place corporations are groups of people and have a right to free speech and in the second any group that wished to speak out on politics was being muzzled so that only the MSM could influence voters.

It didn't abridge the right of the individuals to free speech. And the MSM is utterly responsive to its sponsors, which are pretty much exclusively corporations, so it's not like corporations as entities need more influence. Considering how you feel about foreigners, I'm frankly shocked that you would argue that foreign stockholders in corporations could possibly have a right to free speech in the U.S. And I'm even more shocked that you could disapprove of something which did as much as McCain-Feingold did to reduce the influence of unions.

The fact that it allows it at all, a government entity must not discriminate based on race, all races are entitled to equal treatment under the law.

I believe that. I'm surprised to see you say it, since I believe you have varying feelings about immigration depending upon who is applying for entry. In any case, to say that discrimination is unconstitutional when the constitution originally considered blacks to be three/fifths of a person with no rights at all is pretty damned funny.

Nothing in the Constitution limits the court to issues chosen by the plaintiffs or the defendants, SCOTUS has just as much right as a jury to declare a law unconstitutional on its own.

So you blame O'Connor for not nullifying the EPA unilaterally? As I mentioned, Justice Kennedy wasn't even willing to go there in his dissent.

The Americans with Disabilities Act is unconstitutional and the feds don't get to tell the states what to do.

Is it unconstitutional because the feds don't get to tell the states what to do, or for some other reason? Because if it's that, I have news. The entire Bill of Rights is about the feds telling the states what they cannot do. The Constitution is full of the feds telling the states what to, and what not to, do.

Now let's move on to other cases:

No, let's don't. I've had quite enough of being expected to educate a recalcitrant child who will never say anything but, she didn't vote her party bloc so that must be unconstitutional somehow. This whole thing just keeps reminding me that you don't even have any idea what double jeopardy means, yet you're perfectly content to invoke it as though you did. This is enough fun for me.

Sandra Day O'Connor defends Roberts on health care ruling[/h]Former Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor said Chief Justice John Roberts' deciding vote to largely uphold President Obama's health care law doesn't mean the usually conservative Justice or the Court are moving left. "I see it deciding a very sensitive case with political connotations," she said Sunday on CBS News' "Face the Nation."
The moderate O'Connor - many a time the deciding opinion during her tenure on the Court - would not say which way she would have voted on the hugely controversial law since she "didn't read the briefs or hear the argument." But she said it was a "hard case," and amid an onslaught of outrage from most Republicans defended Roberts' decision, reasoning that voting during an election season didn't make things easy on any of the Justices.
"Any time you're deciding a case involving a presidential election, it's awfully close to politics," she said.

That's all true enough. And I don't blame her for not commenting because she didn't read the briefs or hear the argument.


Yes, I can find the MSM without your help if I want it.
 
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