Straight Poll: Air Force Ron / Freedom / Liberty

[BeFranklin]

Ok, although I'm a Freedom One fan, and think we've won the last 3-4 polls, I'm getting kind-of tired of all the extra choices
on the polls.

This one offers only three choices, only one vote a piece, and you can see who voted for what. Hope my favorite wins again
And yes, I put Air Force Ron back in, it seemed fair.

 

[BeFranklin]

Selected the public poll option to see all names, but doesn't seem to be working.

 

[wisconsinite]

Selected the public poll option to see all names, but doesn't seem to be working.

it's working

 

[hillertexas]

bump

 

[BeFranklin]

Bump for freedom and accurate polls!

 

[BeFranklin]

My reason to preferring Freedom to Liberty is that liberty is a little more stale from over-use on government stamps/buildings/coins, and implies something you need a government for. Freedom is something that exists before. A bird flies with freedom, but does it fly with liberty? If you say it flies at liberty, you imply it had to get permission from somewhere, and this isn't what freedom is.

Beyond which, freedom simply sounds better in lyrics, slogans, and motto's, which seems to me to be the point.

Liberty rings, but freedom flies.

 

[wisconsinite]

But if you keep flooding the poll with comments supporting your personal bias how can you be sure that you're not affecting the poll's outcome???

 

[OferNave]

Why are there a dozen name polls? I can't figure out which one I'm supposed to vote in.

Anyway, I choose Air Force Ron, because it has his name in it. Every time they have to say "Air Force Ron" on the news, it builds name recognition. Plus it's funny.

 

[BeFranklin]

But if you keep flooding the poll with comments supporting your personal bias how can you be sure that you're not affecting the poll's outcome???

I sure hope I am, I have as much right to comment as anyone The discussions are *suppose* to affect the poll outcomes, or we wouldn't be discussing it.

 

[wisconsinite]

I sure hope I am, I have as much right to comment as anyone The discussions are *suppose* to affect the poll outcomes, are we wouldn't be discussing it.

OK then.....BLUMP for Liberty

 

[BeFranklin]

Thread on freedom:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=45057

 

[Jagwarr]

First of these polls I voted in. I supported "Freedom One" because Dr. Paul is already thought of as a Libertarian, perhaps too much so by the general public. Therefore the word Freedom does not reinforce the term Libertarian on Dr. Paul.

 

[Bumnah]

i went for freedom one. sounds good

 

[LukeNM]

Liberty is the name of the rental company and One is reserved for the President of the US (have some respect) how about just Freedom?

 

[mkrfctr]

I sure hope I am, I have as much right to comment as anyone The discussions are *suppose* to affect the poll outcomes, or we wouldn't be discussing it.

Except then you're not actually at all trying to find out what the people want, you're simply trying to push your agenda and get the blimp named what you want. Who's to say that in addition to your comments in this thread you haven't also gone through the other threads on the Freedom One and PM'd all the people who commented in support of it and bringing their attention to this poll and asking them to go to your "poll" and vote. Who's to say what else you are doing to influence the outcome... ?

Point being, no you can't expect to take a poll while strongly espousing your own views and have people consider it to be an unbiased poll.

What if they called on the phone polls and asked

"If the election was held today who would you vote for: [rotate names]
Rudy
McCain
Huckabee
Romney
Thompson
Paul
Tancredo
Hunter

Oh, and personally I think Rudy is the best candidate, he was the mayor of New York on 9/11, he's America's mayor, he cracked down on crime, and he's going to be tough on terrorism and protect America from Islamist Fascism

Okay, now what's your pick?"

 

[mkrfctr]

Liberty is the name of the rental company and One is reserved for the President of the US (have some respect) how about just Freedom?

Sooo Space Ship One (link) ... that's an affront to the respect of the Presidency of the United States of America? Pahleese.

And using a "One" after a name in naming a craft hardly infringes upon the use of it by the Presidency. In fact when used that way it isn't even actually the name of a craft, it's a designation to indicated the cargo carried, and travels with the President, if he's in the plane it becomes call sign "Air Force One", in the helicopter it's "Marine One" (I wonder if he's in a tank or something if it's then Army One... hmm...)

 

[troyd1]

Originally Posted by Polling person
"If the election was held today who would you vote for: [rotate names]
Rudy
McCain
Huckabee
Romney
Thompson
Paul
Tancredo
Hunter

Oh, and personally I think Rudy is the best candidate, he was the mayor of New York on 9/11, he's America's mayor, he cracked down on crime, and he's going to be tough on terrorism and protect America from Islamist Fascism

Okay, now what's your pick?"

Ron Paul because I am not a dear in the headlights and have made an informed decision.

 

[BeFranklin]

Except then you're not actually at all trying to find out what the people want, you're simply trying to push your agenda and get the blimp named what you want. Who's to say that in addition to your comments in this thread you haven't also gone through the other threads on the Freedom One and PM'd all the people who commented in support of it and bringing their attention to this poll and asking them to go to your "poll" and vote. Who's to say what else you are doing to influence the outcome... ?

Point being, no you can't expect to take a poll while strongly espousing your own views and have people consider it to be an unbiased poll.

What if they called on the phone polls and asked

Well, lets see: First of all, this poll is in direct response to your two polls,
which clearly weren't fair. The first poll you made tried to mix the two names freedom and liberty together ON THE SAME LINES!,
then you excluded air force ron in the second poll, adding a whole bunch of needless options, which people other then me complained about.

Also this is quite a bit different then phone polls. You get to read everyone's responses to the poll *if* you want to, both positive and negative, and that includes mine.

Sorry Liberty One is losing, but this is a fair poll. None of the three names have been excluded, none of the names have been co-mingled with each other. Its what should have been polled in the first place. Its a straight poll with three options and and an other.

 

[BeFranklin]

First of these polls I voted in. I supported "Freedom One" because Dr. Paul is already thought of as a Libertarian, perhaps too much so by the general public. Therefore the word Freedom does not reinforce the term Libertarian on Dr. Paul.

Thats a good point. Freedom is better for the people we are trying to reach who maybe aren't as political.

Freedom One! Thats the name

 

[BeFranklin]

Looks like Freedom is popular