Silly MSM/GOP still trying to win over RP voters to Romney - this time with "C" card...

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Silly MSM/GOP still trying to win over RP voters to Romney - this time with "C" card...

IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!

How Ron Paul and Gary Johnson can fight for the Constitution

http://communities.washingtontimes....n-paul-and-gary-johnson-can-fight-constituti/

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Paul and Johnson are painfully aware of this potential outcome. Johnson talks as if the problem is found exclusively in the Ron Paul write-in movement which he says ‘will effectively be meaningless’” (Politico, 9-26-12).

I have news for you, Gary. Your own campaign is just as meaningless, unless your objective is to keep Barack Obama in office.

Ironically, while Paul’s supporters vow to write in his name, Paul himself has dropped a hint that he may vote for Johnson.

“There are other people who are technically capable of winning because they’re on a lot of ballots,” Paul said (Fox Business, 9-3-10).

But neither the Libertarian ballot box nor the write-in protest vote will provide a victory to either gentleman. It’s high time Paul and Johnson admit that the very constitution they so passionately defend may not be worth the paper it is printed on if their loitering helps Obama’s re-election.

Much can happen in four years. For proof, look back at the last four years. Obama’s contempt for our founding document has already been demonstrated with an end run around welfare and immigration laws passed or upheld by the other branches of government. Regardless of how one feels about those issues specifically, the process itself is chilling: Our president stretches the limits of Executive Order and rules by fiat. Any man willing to do this while running for re-election might just be unstoppable if he’s awarded a second term. Even so, Obama will have an opportunity to appoint additional judges who view the Constitution as a “living breathing document.” If Ron Paul and Gary Johnson are truly concerned about our constitution, there can be only one course of action: Johnson needs to drop out of the race. Paul needs to bury the hatchet with the GOP regardless of how he feels he was treated at the convention. He must discourage the write-in campaign and publically announce that he will vote for Romney instead of casting a worthless protest vote for Johnson. Any other decision could be fatal for our nation. A second term of Obama may just end any honest application of the Constitution once and for all. How sad if these “champions of the Constitution” help to make this happen. The moment of truth has arrived. Are Ron Paul and Gary Johnson concerned about the freedom of our Republic or the inflation of their own egos?

But these candidates aren’t the only ones responsible for soul searching. So are their fans. Disenchanted with both Romney and Obama, many are eager to exhibit their disdain. This is understandable. There is nothing wrong with protests. People should use their First Amendment freedom to express themselves loudly and clearly. But while doing so, they must also preserve this same First Amendment. That can only be done with a reality check: In the voting booth, we do not find an endless supply of life changing choices. Any political system is a flawed system. The opportunity to make our world perfect will not present itself in November.

It always sounds righteous to reject “the lesser of two evils” but it’s still preferable to the GREATER of two evils. Sorry, Stanley, much as you might love chocolate, the choice is pistachio or vanilla.

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Romney: "No, I don't think I would need Congresses approval to attack Iran"

Romney defend the Constitution rather than just give it lip service? ROTGLMAO!!!!!!!!!

-t
 
I'm really pissed at all these articles pretending Gary and Ron are the same, Ron isn't the same and Gary hardly ever during the primary mentioned the word 'Constitution'.
 
I'm really pissed that they're insulting my intelligence by insisting that voting for the Establishment Arm Of Team Red is a Constitutional choice when it was Dubya and Cheney that did away with habeus corpus over my objections and in my lifetime.

If Team Red is the Constitutional choice, where's my habeus? Where is it? Has Flip Flopney even bothered to lie to me about restoring it?
 
The dollar collapse will be no less spectacular under Romney than it would be under Obama.
 
The dollar collapse will be no less spectacular under Romney than it would be under Obama...

...just as the collapse of the Bill of Rights has been no less--and no more--spectacular under four years of Team Blue than under the previous eight years of Team Red.
 
You know what, F 'em

I'm a life time Republican but I'd vote for Obama before I'd vote for Rmoney. The bad thing about a Rmoney win is that if he's elected and the economy finally takes its last gasp while he's in office we'll most certainly be headed to socialism verses if Obama gets caught holding the bag "we" might stand a chance.
 
You know what, F 'em

I'm a life time Republican but I'd vote for Obama before I'd vote for Rmoney. The bad thing about a Rmoney win is that if he's elected and the economy finally takes its last gasp while he's in office we'll most certainly be headed to socialism verses if Obama gets caught holding the bag "we" might stand a chance.

That's their great miscalculation. And I find it interesting that since we first articulated that thought here, Romney has suddenly stopped sticking his foot in his mouth (or if he hasn't, they've started turning off the microphone when he does) and Obama has suddenly started succombing to altitude issues.

I don't think we're going to expose this. I also don't think they're going to succeed in turning this slickster whose job was to lose to Obama into a winner. And I agree with you that this is probably fortunate. If we can use this false Red Team/Blue Team dichotomy to ultimately destroy both Teams, then we certainly should.
 
This is rich, full of ironic LOL:

Many Libertarians and Conservatives are standing by Ron Paul and Gary Johnson because they see little difference between Obama and Romney. They are mistaken. There may be reason to conclude that neither choice is ideal, but anyone who sees no difference at all must have been asleep during last week’s debate.

Anyone who sees any difference at all between these two must be Rip Van Winkle, having just awakened as the "keep the false choice plates spinning" parade had begun.

How does this writer pen such blatant misrepresentation of years of record, keep his job, and get a single night's sleep?
 
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techie, the best way in my opinion to handle the Tonys of the world is to concede their point and support it. Most particularly because this tickles the audience to this debate and wins them over to your side. This is important because Tony is most likely incorrigible--and if he isn't, he sure isn't going to convert to reason until after he stops getting rewarded for supporting bull.

So...:

You're right, Tony. They are different. For example, Romney promotes war openly. Obama promotes peace openly on the campaign trail, then flip flops once he's in office. That is quite a difference. Meanwhile, Obama promotes forced health care openly. Romney speaks out against forced health care openly on the campaign trail, then flip flops once he's in office. Romney openly supports corporations, and uses Bain to save companies like Monsanto. Obama speaks out against corporations on the campaign trail, then appoints an ex-Monsanto CEO as his Secretary of Agriculture. Obama supports big government programs, no matter how corrupt and incompetent they are. Romney condemns big, corrupt government projects on the campaign trail, then conducts projects like Boston's Big Dig and its deadly falling ceiling tiles.

You could go on and on with this, given a little research. But this should be enough by itself to swing the momentum your way. Give him hell!
 
Every time I read or hear this kind of crap, I want to start ranting and raving as if I'm losing my identity with my fellow man. Fortunately I have you guys to thank for bringing me back to my senses when I am comforted by your like minded thoughts.
 
They keep referring to last weeks debate as evidence that there is some huge difference between Romney and Obama and between Democrats and Republicans. What they don't mention is a whole host of issues that they agree on in part or, entirely. When they agree, those issues become non isssues. NDAA wasn't mentioned. Our membershp in the UN and, going to war to enforce their resolutions wasn't mentioned. Congressional requirement for declarations of war wasn't mentioned. NAFTA, CAFTA, SPP weren't mentioned. The IMF and WTO weren't mentioned. The war on (some) drugs wasn't mentioned. Military drones flying over us wasn't mentioned. Intervenionist foreign policy wasn't mentioned. The Federal Reserve creating money out of thin air and charging us interest wasn't mentioned.

NONE of those issues will make it to the debates and if they do, the corporate controlled candidates will only disagree in degreee but not policy.
 
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Every time I read or hear this kind of crap, I want to start ranting and raving as if I'm losing my identity with my fellow man. Fortunately I have you guys to thank for bringing me back to my senses when I am comforted by your like minded thoughts.

We're all inter dimensional beings - and this is a matrix reality to test your resolve.

true story
 
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/party-animus/

Third parties have their share and more of frauds and kooks and backbiters (so unlike the Democrats and Republicans) but even at their meanest and most outré, a vote cast therefor serves as a gesture of protest, however ineffectual: an extended middle finger to the tank bearing down on you. Aaron Russo, the late Hollywood producer and manager of Bette Midler, tried and failed in the 1990s to launch a populist-libertarian party whose message to our overlords, in Russo’s words, was “F— YOU! WE’RE NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS SHIT!”
 
In a robot voice: "I'm sold. I'm voting for the Constitutionalist, Mitt Romney and his side kick Paul Ryan."
 
We're all inter dimensional beings -
Not as intelligent as pan-dimensional beings like mice ;)
What's the chance of someone finding something incriminating enough to derail their campaigns before November?
And the whole end of the world if Obama is reelected: USA has been there and done that with FDR. Obama isn't out having the feds shoot people's pigs yet...small consolation.
 
Romney is an asshole, and I honestly believe he'll make the country much worse off than an Obama president with an obstructionist Congress. There is NO WAY i'll ever vote for Romney, and I know a lot of younger friends I have, and my younger brothers friends - they hate his ass too. There aren't enough older establishment type folks in the country to float Romney's ass to victory, he's a lost cause. Get over it establishment Republicans. You fucked up when you pushed this douchebag onto the Conservative masses. We ain't buyin' it.
 
Well shoot, they put Romney and Constitution in the same sentence...that is good enough for me, he definitely has my vote...Yes, just a couple more weeks before we can all vote so to derail "the Obama/Pelocy/Hillary/Biden/Reid Express." I mean really, why would I want to waste my vote by voting on principle when it make so much more sense to vote for a winning team or the people Hannity, Levin, and Limbaugh tell me to vote for. YAY!! GO TEAM RED!!!

/Sarcasm of course/

No in all seriousness though, I hope Dr. Paul gets a substantial number of votes in states where he is a write in candidate (GO MAINE), I hope Gary Johnson pulls a large enough margin away from both candidates that he mathmatically cannot be blaimed for a Romney loss (even though I know that we will be blaimed anyway). I also hope that silver and gold prices take a quick dive (although they won't) in prices so that I can stock up on more before the economy crashes under Obama.


NOBP for me, everyone else vote your concience.
 
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