Should Libertarians support anarcho-capitalism?

[uncharted]

What is your stance?

 

[Swordsmyth]

It is a fantasy designed to make our side sound stupid and dangerous.

 

[Natural Citizen]

I dunno.

How would you enforce it?

 

[Origanalist]

It is a fantasy designed to make our side sound stupid and dangerous.

Our side?

 

[Swordsmyth]

Our side?

Those who want less government as opposed to more.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Real libertarians do support it or another variety of anarcho-libertarianism. The non-anarchists are wishy-washy moderates at best.

 

[Origanalist]

Those who want less government as opposed to more.

Less government, hmmm, now that is a very nice fantasy.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Less government, hmmm, now that is a very nice fantasy.

No it is quite possible, we used to have less, if you don't think we can achieve less government I am not sure why you are here.

 

[Impartial_Truth]

In an environment of anarchy, I suspect most people will form into groups based on race. They will begin talking and the best and brightest of the group will lead them into forming an organized society. People want some form of collectivism, even if its minimal.

I believe in ethno-nationalism managed according to libertarian principles of a neutral foreign policy, gold standard, free markets, and civil liberties. People of the same race naturally form a common culture. I believe race is the starting point, not the individual. The fundamental purpose of government is to protect the race. All world historical events are nothing more than the expression of self preservation of the races, for better or worse.

 

[Origanalist]

No it is quite possible, we used to have less, if you don't think we can achieve less government I am not sure why you are here.

Yes, we used to have less. Going all the way back to the revolutionary war. And it's been all downhill from there.

I'm here because I learned a lot here and still like to come around.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Real libertarians do support it or another variety of anarcho-libertarianism. The non-anarchists are wishy-washy moderates at best.

Have you thought it through all the way?

Here's a question. Do you believe your Individual rights are decided by Natural Law or do you believe that your Individual rights are decided for you piecemeal through economic justification for any particular right?

Now that's only one thing.

 

[Swordsmyth]

In an environment of anarchy, I suspect most people will form into groups based on race. They will begin talking and the best and brightest of the group will lead them into forming an organized society. People want some form of collectivism, even if its minimal.

I believe in ethno-nationalism managed according to libertarian principles of a neutral foreign policy, gold standard, free markets, and civil liberties. People of the same race naturally form a common culture. I believe race is the starting point, not the individual. The fundamental purpose of government is to protect the race. All world historical events are nothing more than the expression of self preservation of the races, for better or worse.

Race is just a coincidence, Culture is what matters, those of the same race but with different cultures can't coexist, those of different races who assimilate into the same culture can.

 

[Natural Citizen]

There's a few different forms of anarcho-capitalism, btw. Does the OP know this?

 

[Mikezelot]

No I don't believe so. Not every transaction that goes wrong needs to be solved in a gun fight.

 

[Natural Citizen]

No I don't believe so. Not every transaction that goes wrong needs to be solved in a gun fight.

No, you'd have private police and private courts, so just pay the police and the judge to see it your way.

Hopefully the other guy doesn't have his own private police and court. Otherwise you're gonna have to send your private army over to his house to enforce your private judges ruling.

 

[Natural Citizen]

lol

 

[Natural Citizen]

In an environment of anarchy, I suspect most people will form into groups based on race. They will begin talking and the best and brightest of the group will lead them into forming an organized society. People want some form of collectivism, even if its minimal.

Okay. But what if the best and brightest one is also the most totalitarian ahole outta the bunch? Now he's gonna come take your property and wealth at gunpoint in order to support his socialist program.

I believe in ethno-nationalism managed according to libertarian principles of a neutral foreign policy, gold standard, free markets, and civil liberties. People of the same race naturally form a common culture. I believe race is the starting point, not the individual. The fundamental purpose of government is to protect the race. All world historical events are nothing more than the expression of self preservation of the races, for better or worse.

What's ethno-nationalism? And how are The Individual's rights protected in an ethno-nationalist system? Meaning his right to property, his right to his wealth, his right to Life and Liberty, his right of economic liberty, bla bla bla and all of that...

By default it seems like an ethno-nationalist system wouldn't recogize the Individual as an Individual. Which is patently anti-libertarian.

 

[P3ter_Griffin]

No, you'd have private police and private courts, so just pay the police and the judge to see it your way.

Hopefully the other guy doesn't have his own private police and court. Otherwise you're gonna have to send your private army over to his house to enforce your private judges ruling.

You don't need to understand how the market will provide a service to have faith in it's ability to provide that service. I don't know how service providers will provide running water, electricity, and sewage disposal to consumers but I have faith that some individuals do and that they will use their wisdom on these subjects to build a better life for themselves and their family.

 

[Natural Citizen]

You don't need to understand how the market will provide a service to have faith in it's ability to provide that service. I don't know how service providers will provide running water, electricity, and sewage disposal to consumers but I have faith that some individuals do and that they will use their wisdom on these subjects to build a better life for themselves and their family.

There's a little more involved than mere services.

Have you thought it through all the way? Did you read my post to HB?

More importantly, did you read post #3?

 

[Natural Citizen]

And, yes, you do need to know how the market will work. I'd be paying a fee, right?