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Secret Service To Trump: 'Wanna Be Safe? Stop Holding Rallies!'
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In the early days, I was lukewarm to Trump at best. I assumed he would be just another Deep State puppet. I couldn't understand Trump's policies they made no sense to me on any construction. But as time has passed, I've warmed up to the theory that he really intends to clean house in the Fedgov. People get sidetracked onto all kinds of side-issues but this really is the core issue. If the Praetorian guard has been infiltrated and corrupted, you really have a headless government, and whoever controls the Praetorian guard is the real power. They can remain unseen indefinitely and they can never be stopped. So, if you're going to take that on, you're going to need to infiltrate the infiltrators, and implode them from within. "Stop holding rallies" is a smart-ass answer given by arrogant chumps who are completely convinced that Trump will never again be their boss, not on paper or in any other sense. That's precisely why Trump needs to be made their boss and put back as POTUS. The house-cleaning needs to be very, very intense. No more excuses. No more "deals". Just heads rolling like it's 1790 in Paris. Will Trump actually deliver? I don't know. But I sure hope so. Kamala certainly wouldn't be any better so, this is one case where I'm willing to "roll the dice" and see if it actually works this time...
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Count me out. Trump is the problem, not the solution.
Trump-humpers are for police-state solutions to the government-created immigration problem. They also overlook and give passes to him not vetoing bills leading to more spending than all presidents combined. They are happy with "tax-free tips" which aren't taxed to begin with and couldn't dream of actually living without the fed. Talk to Trump-humpers about libertarian solutions and you will be considered a left-wing lune. Many stand with Israel and will go along with anything Trump/Miriam Adelson want, including warring with Iran and Israel-owned police-state apparatus brought into our country.
Among a myriad of other things that would take volumes to cover.
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You never-Trumpers have made countless predictions about him that keep turning out to be false. He was supposed to have sold off the National Parks to the highest bidder and imposed the MOTB years ago. I'm not going to go so far as to say it's impossible Trump could turn, but there is no actual indication of it. If he's planning to betray the movement, he certainly has the best poker-face ever.
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Poker face.
In case you missed it:
Donald Trump On The Record
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Haven't seen that said about anyone since Reagan.
You must have a more flattering view of Bill Gates rewriting the DNA of many of the children of God than I do.
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I'm being hyperbolic.
Well, two things. First, I don't think Trump actually had the capability to stop the China-virus, it was just dropped in his lap and he had to deal with as best he could manage. William-Wallace self-sacrifice is not always the correct course of action. Second, I trust God to protect the innocent, even from malevolent bioweapon makers.
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First, I'm not talking about the virus, I'm talking about the big, beautiful new jab. Second, I trust God implicitly to bring the good back in time for the hereafter, but I know for a fact that He isn't protecting them from that damned deadly jab.
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Such things are unknowable for any creature, not even the angels know God's innermost counsels. So no, you don't know that for a fact at all. It's these kinds of outrageous and obviously false claims that make communication between us nigh impossible...
"See that you do not look down on one of these little ones. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven." (Matt. 18:10)
The innocents are under protection your peanut-brain cannot even imagine... (Isa. 55:8,9)
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The proper response by any true Republican should have been: "Government Has No Business in Healthcare, Go See Your Personal/Private Physician!"
NOT the following:
Donald Trump: "We have given Pfizer and other companies a great deal of money!"
Donald Trump decries "Reckless anti-vaccine rhetoric, anti-vaccine conspiracy theories"
Trump White House orders FDA chief to authorize Pfizer vaccine by Friday or submit his resignation
Donald Trump: Vax a "Medical Miracle" - "I pushed the FDA Like Nobody's Been Pushed Before"
Donald Trump: "WIN BACK HOUSE, but throw Massie out of Republican Party!"
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Well, that's your first mistake, I'm no Repuglican. I can't lie enough to be a Repuglican, they're the Gold Medal Olympians of lying!!
I don't do political litmus-testing. I'm not one-issue anything (except the Gospel).
Around 2014 or so, we entered Clown World or, at least, that's when I woke up and realized we had shifted dimensions to this place, where up is down, down is up, dudes are chicks, black is white, and so on. In this place, none of the old "political calculus" applies. Trump is sometimes clownish in his policies and public statements, but perhaps the solution to Clown World involves some clownishness.
In Clown World, taking the political system at face-value in any way, shape or form is an act of insanity. I don't care who belongs to what "party". I care about directly confronting the wicked pirates who have seized the levers of power in this country, head-on. I don't care how many curtains the Wizard of Oz is hiding behind, they need to be pulled open and their wickedness exposed from the rooftops. No deals. No bargains. No bribes. No mercy. Just justice, true justice, applied with unflinching rigor. That is the only medicine strong enough to cure this present wickedness. Ultimately, we need divine intervention. I don't see any half-measures getting us out of the pinch this time.
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Kamala should get 100% DEI SS agents. Seems only right.
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Why don't you tell me God prevents all wildfires now?
I have eyes to see and ears to hear. Jesus said that's not a bad thing.
Fundie claptrap. *yawn* Don't you know that stuff will lead you down the garden path?
I'm glad I'm not burdened by mystic mumbo jumbo which blinds me to what the real physical evidence says God is not doing, because it might make me blind to the real physical evidence of what God is doing. And He has a fine sense of humor...
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Yeah, that's the very point in contention. I will direct your attention to Matt. 24:24, "For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect--if that were possible." Jesus said in John 14:6, "I am ... the Truth." The reason for these extreme statements (and many similar ones) in the gospels, is precisely because the Antichrist is going to come with a deception so extreme, that even the Missouri-Show-Me types will be taken in by it. EVERYONE will be deceived, except for the elect, and that only by God's protection (thus making it impossible for them to be deceived). That is exactly what Jesus says in Matt. 24:24. Those who think that "physical evidence" is some kind of solid reality which cannot be morphed at whim like clay in the hands of the spirit realm are first in line to be deceived. They are at the very head of the line, and in the greatest hazard.
They are lying more than you can possibly imagine...
All I can do is throw a man a life-ring. It's up to him to grab it or not...
Matt. 24:35 -- Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.
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So did the anti-Christ deceive me into believing that this very fine, extremely kind and selfless person who used to be in my life but died of the jab was righteous, or that she died? The wicked have their reward in this mortal coil; the elect receive theirs later. That's Matthew Six. The elect will be protected, or the elect will be rewarded? Do I tell her widower don't grieve, she must not be of the elect because she wasn't protected, or am I misunderstanding your dogma? The good don't die young? Was I wrong to tell her mother that we must work harder at being good, so we can spend time with her again?
Are we elected, or should we humbly stand by to see how His vote falls? And should we just stand by, or should we keep seeking Him? Because He isn't in the clown show. He's the people made hungry, cold, put in hospital or prison, not Trump at all but the least of these brethren of ours. Didn't He say so? That's Matthew 25, by the way, just so you can snap at me and tell me again that you know Matthew better than I do.
Do you heed your own warning, or do you imagine that you can imagine what I can't imagine? And if you do, what happened to judge not lest you be judged, because according to your dogma, that is judging me to be unprotected from their lies, and therefore not of the elect. That's pretty harsh, man. It's a judgement if ever I read one.
You're also judging yourself, and rather favorably. I personally consider that to be above my pay grade. I don't know if you are of the elect or not, or if I am or not, or if the elect would more accurately be called the select. But I do know that according to Jesus Himself in Matthew 25, there will be no special group on the Day of Reckoning for anyone who parrots any specific dogma. If He wasn't lying about that, then we can disagree completely and still both be of the elect.
If you can't imagine the anti-Christ using their own dogma against modern-day Pharisees, then my imagination, though undoubtedly still inadequate, is better than yours.
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OK (don't see anything to respond to here).
Both.
Isaiah 57:1 -- "The righteous perish, and no one ponders it in his heart; devout men are taken away, and no one understands that the righteous are taken away to be spared from evil."
This is why the most innocent among the righteous go first. The good really do die young, that's Isaiah 57:1.
I personally wouldn't use those words, but I assume you were conveying a sincere sentiment.
Sure, we may think of it that way. But being God, his ways are inscrutable. So, when he says that "when you did it to the least of these, you did it unto me", this is not a statement that he can only appear as those in destitution. Being very God, he does whatever he wants, Dan. 4:35.
No, I imagine that Scripture directly informs us what you and I both cannot imagine:
"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the LORD. "As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts." (Isa. 55:8,9)
I'm informing you that if you (anyone) think you can escape the coming Great Deception by human cleverness and "Show-Me"-ness, you are already deceived. You're already in the jaws of the Great Deception itself, even as you comfort yourself that you won't fall for it because you're just so cynical and hard-boiled. The hard-boiled cynics and "Show-Me"-types are at the very head of the line to go over the precipice into the Great Deception, and that's exactly what Scripture tells us, it's not merely my opinion.
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Heavenly "pay grade" doesn't work the way it does on earth:
Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him. (John 14:21)
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Clearly we have a different view of what the word "protect" means. That's part of the trouble we're having communicating that we agree.
We also seem to differ on whether seeing how the evil is serving His purposes means we should support the evil. I still don't care which side of the Uniparty appears less evil this decade. There's still plenty of room for the "lesser evil" to be almighty damned evil.
Vote for the lesser evil is very much the world's wisdom made foolish by God in these difficult times. My wisdom may be merely mortal, but I know this in my heart, and if I do have God in me, that's where He resides.
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Beware of making assumptions. I haven't "voted for the lesser of two evils" since 2004 when I later realized that Bush absolutely betrayed everything that I had incorrectly assumed the R party was supposed to stand for (reducing government, individual liberty, economic prosperity through freedom and low-taxes, etc.) You can't reframe my two decades of moral-consistency at the ballot-box as "lesser-of-two-evils"-thinking merely because I have tentative support for Trump based on the fact that he's the only person in my voting lifetime (first able to vote in 2000) to provide even the slightest hint of a headwind to the NWO-omnipotent-welfare-warfare-State. Did he shut down the kill-and-feed orgy in DC? Of course not. But he took the initial step that no one has yet had the courage to take: First do no harm, that is, First, start no new wars.
There are two reasons why my support of Trump is still tentative -- I do not whole-heartedly support him. 1) He does not openly proclaim that Jesus is Lord. He seems to be vaguely religious, and I hope that he is privately a true believer in Jesus. But if you're really going to be the kind of political-chainsaw chopping down the DC tyranny-tree, as Trump has tried to position himself as in the public perception, then you had better be prepared to go all the way, because the enemy is certainly going to push it that far (aka biblical Apocalypse). 2) He is silent on the Federal Reserve or even implicitly supports it. This demonstrates that Trump does not understand the true basis of American prosperity, and imagines that money-printing can somehow boost our economic power versus other countries, when it is the exact opposite. The Fed is the venom that is destroying us from within.
So, Trump gets huge props for being the first President in my adult voting life not to start a new war, and/or expand an existing one. But my support of him is tentative, and I cannot rule out the possibility that he could just flip on us if he gets back into office. You claim to know that he will flip. I don't know that, either. I hope for the best but, in Clown World, I will not be surprised in the least by the worst...
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Trump Escalates Killer Drone War And No One Seems To Care
The Trump administration has significantly increased the tempo of drone strikes in a number of countries, and it has relaxed the rules governing the targeting of these strikes. The result has been an increased number of civilian casualties with even less accountability than before and no redress for the innocent people caught in the middle of our endless wars.
The U.S. government restricts the information that is publicly available about these attacks, and that in turn ensures that there is very little public scrutiny or criticism of an open-ended military campaign. To make matters worse, the additional strikes seem to have done nothing to reduce the activities of Al-Shabaab, and instead the threat posed by the group is greater than before.
The drone war in Somalia is just one part of this campaign, and it exemplifies what is wrong with the open-ended “war on terror.” Like the other wars he inherited, President Trump has significantly escalated it. Through the end of 2019, there had already been 148 U.S. strikes launched in Somalia since Trump took office. In just the first half of 2020, there have been as many U.S. drone strikes in Somalia (40) as there were between 2007 and 2016. In less than three and a half years, Trump has more than quadrupled the number of attacks in Somalia ordered by his last two predecessors.
https://www.theamericanconservative...es-killer-drone-war-and-no-one-seems-to-care/
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?477303-Donald-Trump-On-The-Record
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Trump took military actions during his presidency. I'm not in denial about that, and I do care (I want that to stop, too). But rolling back the omnipotent warfare-State begins by rolling back the boots on the ground and closing overseas military bases. Yes, we need to shut down the droning and AI cyberwarfare, as well, because that is how the MIC is trying to "sneak" their wickedness into a supposedly renovated "New Normal" that has gone through a "Great Reset" and there's supposedly no war/poverty, etc. etc. Cheap chinese-knockoff of real peace and prosperity. So, I see the issue, and I agree it's a problem, but the Perfect really is the enemy of the Good. Close all US military overseas bases. Stop sending US troops overseas to die in conflicts that have nothing to do with us. Those steps, and shutting down the central bank, are the prerequisites to reining in the MIC. Yes, the MIC is war-gaming that scenario with drones/AI. So be it. We'll shut that down, too, when we get there, but we have to start with the basics and then work our way up to the frills.
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