Seasteading

[tangent4ronpaul]

http://seasteading.org/seastead.org/book_beta/full_book_beta.html

very interesting read!

-t

 

[asimplegirl]

It is pretty cool, on a slightly related note, there was a great couple who homesteaded on the Atchafalaya Basin at one time. I sigh every time I see the pics....they are my dreams. ::sigh::

The Atchafalaya is a mysterious land, as much underwater as above. Its lush environment is home to alligators, egrets, black bears – and for a time two people who yearned for a simple, natural life. Atchafalaya Houseboat, shares the experiences of Gwen Roland and her companion Calvin Voisin, who left civilization in the turmoil of the early 1970s for the unspoiled beauty of the nation’s largest river swamp, Louisiana’s Atchafalaya Basin.

There was a documentary, as well as a book written by Gwen while they lived there, Called "Atchafalaya Houseboat".

 

[cheapseats]

It is pretty cool, on a slightly related note, there was a great couple who homesteaded on the Atchafalaya Basin at one time. I sigh every time I see the pics....they are my dreams. ::sigh::

The Atchafalaya is a mysterious land, as much underwater as above. Its lush environment is home to alligators, egrets, black bears – and for a time two people who yearned for a simple, natural life. Atchafalaya Houseboat, shares the experiences of Gwen Roland and her companion Calvin Voisin, who left civilization in the turmoil of the early 1970s for the unspoiled beauty of the nation’s largest river swamp, Louisiana’s Atchafalaya Basin.

There was a documentary, as well as a book written by Gwen while they lived there, Called "Atchafalaya Houseboat".

If our plan is to Stand Down, then I am decided that something like this is as good a way as any, and better than many, to ride out the next couple of years.

She looks to be 20-something in the photo. Do you know the ages of Gwen Roland and Calvin Voisin in the early 70's, or how their story continued?

 

[asimplegirl]

Since 1993 she has been the communications specialist for the Southern Region Sustainable Agriculture Research and Education Program, translating sustainable agriculture research results into stories farmers can actually use.

She lives in Pike County, Georgia, a rolling rural landscape in the foothills of the Pine Mountain range.

Gwen and her husband Preston raise most of their own food with the help of horse manure, chickens, goats and earthworms. They also buy from Pike County’s Market on the Square, which they helped organize. The market, along with an old-time dance group Gwen started, make up the core of their social life. The best of times happens when the two groups overlap. As she puts it, “How can you top an evening spent dancing with the farmer who grows your food?”

A big step for Gwen this year was raising a flock of pastured broilers. It was the first time she had raised animals for the purpose of killing them to eat. She reports that the nine birds, now 36 frozen packages in her freezer, are contributing to the most thoughtful meals she has ever eaten.

According to the book, http://books.google.com/books?id=B5...&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result, she was thirty two when they left the Atchafalaya.

I have no idea what Calvin has been doing, as the only info I can find is that she met up with him for the first time in 30 years to film Atchafalaya houseboat for PBS.


It took me forever to find anyhting on him, but luckily, on http://www.louisianafolklife.org/main_credits.html:

Calvin Voisin is an Atchafalaya Basin fisherman and photographer.

 

[Intuition]

Thanks for posting this. I hadn't realized they have a book put together already. I read about this a few years ago and am glad to see the project is moving along. I'm going to see if I can work out donating some time doing research for them.

 

[Kludge]

When I retire, I hope to have a huge modern houseboat outfitted with enough equipment to only need to dock for food (fish allergies suck). I figure I'll be 70+ by the time I retire, so hopefully a huge wave will sweep me under before I develop Alzheimer's or worse.

 

[asimplegirl]

Or a whale could swallow you..sort of a modern day Jonah type thing?

 

[porcupine]

The founder of the Sea Steading Institute will be speaking at the Liberty Forum in March, as will Richard Heller, and many other libertarian luminaries.

http://freestateproject.org/libertyforum

 

[Conza88]

The NWO will send "peacekeepers" to you. Or consider you a terrorist, because you aren't willing to get chipped. Only terrorists won't get chipped!! Didn't you know?!

 

[cheapseats]

Barbara Boxer, useless to the cause of reform but married to a wealthy man and apparently determined NEVER to leave office, announced at the Democratic National Convention that SIXTY IS THE NEW FIFTY.
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Gwen Roland, 60-Something

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Barbara Boxer, 68

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Raquel Welch, 67

I hear a LOT of grousing among guys of the Prepared persuasion about money that wives and girlfriends misspend on "crap" like hair, nails, skincare and wardrobe. It IS another coin that is being played on both sides. By another name, it IS Mixed Messaging and it IS fucking with the collective psyche.

Looking like Raquel Welch at Raquel Welch's age is a FULL TIME JOB. In her case, also a business. That's what she DOES. Nips and tucks and procedures and downtime, then do it all again, and again. Exercise, massage, sauna, work on yourself, work on yourself, have others work on yourself, have others work on yourself. Message boards are typically pretty opinionated joints. What think we, truly, about aging? What think we, truly, about the beauty of the physical form? How can it BE that so many Mainstream Media PERSONALITIES and POLITICAL Personalities are passably attractive?

Aside from the FORTUNES that are spent chasing youth, there is psychological wreckage aplenty. Psychological wreckage is ALWAYS expensive.

 

[asimplegirl]

I think people are more attractive when they aren't artificial, but you can do some things for yourself and look put together without changing yourself.

As for you who is more successful, I wouldn't know monetarily. As far as who is more famous, I would say that she is. As for who I envy the most out of them, I say him. He lived a great life, had a documentary made, a book written all about this life that he came up with the idea for. He gets to live life as he wishes. No one bothers him. He is virtually unknown. I am envious.

As for who is more attractive, I would not know, but if he still has the beard, and looks all outdoorsy and rugged, I swear it is better than her.

Then again, I am a sucker for the bearded southern man, who smells like sun and black dirt.

 

[gls]

The founder of the Sea Steading Institute will be speaking at the Liberty Forum in March, as will Richard Heller, and many other libertarian luminaries.

http://freestateproject.org/libertyforum

This is one of the main reasons I bought a ticket and will be attending. Patri's presentation should be very interesting.

 

[Kludge]

I think people are more attractive when they aren't artificial, but you can do some things for yourself and look put together without changing yourself.

Win! Why does my generation seem to disagree?

Distractingly colored hair, ridiculously dark tans, and rings/tattoos in places and numbers which demand awe (but not respect)... And then there's the anti-conformist conformist emo movement which makes me want to ram my head through a wall.

 

[cheapseats]

I think people are more attractive when they aren't artificial, but you can do some things for yourself and look put together without changing yourself.

I quite agree. HOWEVER, comma, American men overwhelmingly DO oggle babes with fake parts and surgical maintenance.

Up-and-coming girls can SEE what "gets the guy."

Pit "getting the guy" against FIFTY-THREE MILLION SINGLE WOMEN and a Pretend You Aren't Who And What You Are industry that is second to NONE . . . it's BEGGING for trouble. And we get it, in spades. All KINDSA guys dumpin' long-time wives for newer models.

As for you who is more successful, I wouldn't know monetarily. As far as who is more famous, I would say that she is. As for who I envy the most out of them, I say him. He lived a great life, had a documentary made, a book written all about this life that he came up with the idea for. He gets to live life as he wishes. No one bothers him. He is virtually unknown. I am envious.

With the exception of WHO'S IDEA WAS IT, all that you attribute to his credit can be attributed to her in like measure. I inferred from a line that stated her name and then "her companion so-and-so" that it was her idea.

No matter. It was an innovative and purposeful idea. They executed it and lived to tell and, from what you say, parted amicably enough to re-visit the experience these many years later. Good on BOTH of them, but I'm not gonna be surprised if it turns out that SHE was the brains of the operation. No matter on that, too. Neither could have pulled it off so well without an Other.

As for who is more attractive, I would not know, but if he still has the beard, and looks all outdoorsy and rugged, I swear it is better than her.

Yeah, but you have already revealed yourself to have a soft spot for HE-Men.

Then again, I am a sucker for the bearded southern man, who smells like sun and black dirt.

See above.

 

[cheapseats]

Win! Why does my generation seem to disagree?

Distractingly colored hair, ridiculously dark tans, and rings/tattoos in places and numbers which demand awe (but not respect)... And then there's the anti-conformist conformist emo movement which makes me want to ram my head through a wall.

I have more than once gasped, literally could not control the sharp intake of breath, when certain Seventy Somethings have gotten out of chauffeur-driven Rolls Royces and Maybachs in Beverly Hills. Startling to the point that I am UNable, NOT able, to understand how that woman and her surgeon both look in the mirror and say, "Yep, THAT'S the look we were goin' for."

I vouch not for verity but I was once told that long long from now, when archaeologists "discover" us, the two things that will be readily identifiable amongst the landfill that was our life will be disposable diapers and silicon implants. I was also told that breast implants survive cremation, which is at once disturbing and hilarious to contemplate.

 

[asimplegirl]

Good on BOTH of them, but I'm not gonna be surprised if it turns out that SHE was the brains of the operation.

BTW, I am not arguing, just giving you my source.

This was a tiny slice of Gwen Carpenter Roland’s back-to-nature life in the Atchafalaya River Basin Swamp in the ’70s. It started when family friend Calvin Voisin told her about his recent move deep into the basin. His goal was to do what his ancestors had done: fish, live off the land and come into town only when necessary. It sounded fascinating to Roland. Her ancestors were swamp dwellers, too. She’d been looking for interesting summer work, so she tagged along.

http://www.225batonrouge.com/news/2006/apr/01/swamp-siren/

 

[cheapseats]

BTW, I am not arguing, just giving you my source.
http://www.225batonrouge.com/news/2006/apr/01/swamp-siren/

I KNOW you're not. I GET IT that different perspectives can and WILL be brought to bear on issues. It is my experience, in fact, that discussions are not unlike houses for being rather more interesting with a multiplicity of views.

As to this,

This was a tiny slice of Gwen Carpenter Roland’s back-to-nature life in the Atchafalaya River Basin Swamp in the ’70s. It started when family friend Calvin Voisin told her about his recent move deep into the basin. His goal was to do what his ancestors had done: fish, live off the land and come into town only when necessary. It sounded fascinating to Roland. Her ancestors were swamp dwellers, too. She’d been looking for interesting summer work, so she tagged along.

Fair enough, his idea. Still, good on both of 'em.

Tagging along with and making yourself useful to someone who's got a great idea, is a great idea.

Swamp Dweller, that's pretty far afield . . . I can envision lots of variations-one-might-say-improvements on THAT theme. Loan Modification? Escapist Modification, drawing upon a pharmacological history so rich that Monsanto will head up American Agriculture . . . STAY AHEAD OF THE PAIN.

 

[asimplegirl]

eheh. I like you.

 

[asimplegirl]

Win! Why does my generation seem to disagree?

Distractingly colored hair, ridiculously dark tans, and rings/tattoos in places and numbers which demand awe (but not respect)... And then there's the anti-conformist conformist emo movement which makes me want to ram my head through a wall.

It is just not cool to agree.

What is sad is it is not one generation anymore. My mother seems to think sh elooks great with dyed hair, fake nails, fake tan, skimpy clothing, tattoos, piercings .

There is nothing further from the truth.

A woman in her forties trying to appear to be sixteen is just pathetic, and sad. To me, it automatically labels a woman as white trash, no matter her income.

Once, while with an ex, I was left at home for him to go out. See, that's just not my scene, atleast not where he went out (for torchbearer, the bayview, ugh). So, I stayed in. I found out later that he was with a girl they called barbie. She was twenty and had already had implants, a nose job, lipo, that nasty lip stuff, and a...get this...face lift! She also had a nasty fake tan, fake nails, bleach blond hair, and dressed like a damned hooker. Oh, and she worked in the mall.

I was at home, mowing the mowing the grass. I had no fixed my hair, but had it twisted up on my head in a messy bun, just trying to get it out of the way ( I am a natural blond, take that hoochies!), was wearing a bikini with some stained up 900 year old overalls on over it. White as a got danged ghost...

I had been sweating and was all kinds of gross. His best friend came over and told me where he was, not knowing I was unaware. Before he left, I am glad to report that he said he could not understand why his friend did not see what he had and that they should make a syrup bottle out of my NATURAL figure. I then had some 12 year olds come over and ask if they could finish my yard for me, while barely placing their tongues back in their mouths. There is a market out there for the natural yet put together types..I like to think it justtakes a spoiled eye to spot it. Helps the old self esteem.

 

[ingrid]

There's some current pictures here with Calvin:
http://www.cclockwood.com/stockimages/crawfishing.htm