Say Goodbye To Ron Paul Forums....

[libertygrl]

.... as well as any other forum of free speech. Sorry I had to take such dramatic measures, but I needed to get people's attention. I copied the following posts from DailyPaul:


The Bill S1959 is before the Senate - This bill if passed will end the Internet as we know it - remove our basic right of freedom of speech - right to assemble - This bill will totally undermine our Constitution * Our Bill of Rights * & give terrible powers to the Homeland Security Forces. Contact your Senator. Talk to their aids & then leave an email. How in the hell could the house pass this almost unanimously?

The clock is ticking.

It is currently "in committee", but you must be careful because bills in committee often get "slipped" in with other legislation under a different title.
Funny how this NEVER gets brought up in debates where THREE SENATORS participating have this before them, isn't it?

This needs to go viral NOW!!

Please contact your Senators at: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


Asking questions & demanding answers from one's Government on the Subjects of the War for Oil - or Health Care etc. at a rally could easily get one 'Listed' - Asking questions of a sensitive nature online. Do some research & be enlightened. I have nothing against a strong Terrorism Bill, just not one that also takes away our precious & dwindling Civil Liberties. Home Land Security is ready to become much much more involved in our everyday lives. They just need a few more pieces of legislation to pass.

 

[freedom-maniac]

Eeek!

 

[Give me liberty]

http://newsminer.com/news/2008/feb/14/alarming-bill/?opinion

more news on it

Brace your selfs

 

[AJ Antimony]

Don't worry, people still won't do jack shit about it.

 

[Highstreet]

I don't think it will come up until after the Dems have been elected. Or the Republican convention is over. Then there won't be a choice to have a mass exodus to Paul from these Phony Dems.

Obama is on the committee and has said he will pass it, but will make sure there are "no infringements of our rights".

 

[Rhys]

bump

 

[AlbemarleNC0003]

Shelia Jackson is a piece of work. At the bottom:

Many years of civil rights jurisprudence and law have been ignored and thrown out the window when the racial profiling, harassment, and discrimination of Muslim and Arab Americans is permitted to occur with impunity. These practices show a reckless and utter disregard for the fundamental values on which our country is founded: namely, due process, the presumption of innocence, nondiscrimination, individualized rather than group suspicion, and equitable application of the law. We cannot allow xenophobia, prejudice, and bigotry to prevail, and eviscerate the Constitution we are bound to protect.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/record.xpd?id=110-h20071023-31&bill=h110-1955

 

[alaric]

blimp!

 

[IRO-bot]

:EEK: Evan Paul Braun supports it. Sad Day.

 

[mudburn]

Who knows what will be added to the bill, but as it stands, it looks to me like just another way to expand the size of the federal gov't by creating another bureaucracy called a commission. This legislation is only to create a commission to study violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence as they define these in the bill. The commission, after studying it (which undoubtedly will involve much expense in salaries for the 12 members, travel expenses, consultant fees for their buddies, etc.) is to publish a report on violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence and make legislative and other recommendations.

S1959 doesn't affect the internet or much else directly, but based upon the "Congressional findings" it's based upon, it will recommend changes and regulations that will affect the internet and other entities.

It's a waste of time to create another bureaucracy. To me it seems like just another way to vote public moneys out of the coffers and into the hands of twelve congress critters and executive branch lackies and into the hands of expensive consultants. It also seeks to establish an ongoing center for the study of violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence at a university somewhere. Believe me, there will be universities clamoring over one another to get the money that goes along with such a center.

dp

 

[LEK]

There are several bills that have been put into place that when/if some event happens that will require a crack-down on freedoms, these bills will be enacted.

It's an ill wind as blows nobody no good...

 

[Crickett]

Who knows what will be added to the bill, but as it stands, it looks to me like just another way to expand the size of the federal gov't by creating another bureaucracy called a commission. This legislation is only to create a commission to study violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence as they define these in the bill. The commission, after studying it (which undoubtedly will involve much expense in salaries for the 12 members, travel expenses, consultant fees for their buddies, etc.) is to publish a report on violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence and make legislative and other recommendations.

S1959 doesn't affect the internet or much else directly, but based upon the "Congressional findings" it's based upon, it will recommend changes and regulations that will affect the internet and other entities.

It's a waste of time to create another bureaucracy. To me it seems like just another way to vote public moneys out of the coffers and into the hands of twelve congress critters and executive branch lackies and into the hands of expensive consultants. It also seeks to establish an ongoing center for the study of violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence at a university somewhere. Believe me, there will be universities clamoring over one another to get the money that goes along with such a center.

dp

Dr. Ron calls it "Neo-Conservative Empire Radicalism". LOL

 

[dvictr]

>>>>>>>>>


http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s110-1959

 

[dvictr]

`The Congress finds the following:



`(3) The Internet has aided in facilitating violent radicalization, ideologically based violence, and the homegrown terrorism process in the United States by providing access to broad and constant streams of terrorist-related propaganda to United States citizens.

 

[BeallCanbe]

Nothing new ... it's just to establish the thought police to protect the citizens... they had it already in "1984".

 

[Give me liberty]

lol did you the read lower part of the bill?

SEC. 899E. PROTECTING CIVIL RIGHTS AND CIVIL LIBERTIES WHILE PREVENTING IDEOLOGICALLY BASED VIOLENCE AND HOMEGROWN TERRORISM.

`(a) In General- In carrying out this subtitle, the Secretary shall ensure that the efforts of the Department to prevent ideologically based violence and homegrown terrorism as described in this subtitle do not violate the constitutional rights, civil rights, and civil liberties of United States citizens and lawful permanent residents.

what lies lol

 

[torchbearer]

Just some advice,
buy your weapons and ammo now while its still legal.

 

[Trigonx]

we have to take over the congress, thats all there is to it. We can email or call our senators all we want but they are not gonna give a damn.

 

[torchbearer]

we have to take over the congress, thats all there is to it. We can email or call our senators all we want but they are not gonna give a damn.

i plan on getting into congress this year.. join the second wave: http://www.moneybomb1.com
http://www.joinsanders.com

 

[Gtex]

So scary indeed.