Russian missile strikes wipe out arms supplier meeting in Ukraine. "War Crime"

[Snowball]

Two completely different accounts by Russia and Ukraine:

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A targeted Russian strike has wiped out all those who were present at a Ukrainian Air Force meeting with foreign arms suppliers, the Russian Defense Ministry stated on Friday.

[size=medium]"On 14 July, Kalibr high-precision sea-based missiles attacked the building of the House of Officers in the city of Vinnitsa. At the time of the strike, a meeting was taking place in the facility between the command of the Ukrainian Air Force and representatives of foreign arms suppliers about the next batch of aircraft and weapons to the Ukrainian military, as well as organizing the repair of the Ukrainian aviation fleet," the ministry said in a statement.

[size=medium]https://sputniknews.com/20220715/russian-strike-wipes-out-participants-of-ukrainian-af-meeting-with-foreign-arms-suppliers---mod-1097340584.html

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Zelensky on Vinnytsia missile strike: People couldn't do that, they are beasts

The Russian Federation launched eight rockets on Vinnitsa city, two of which hit the city center. This is an audacious act of Russian terror. — Ukrinform.

President Volodymyr Zelensky said this in his address to the participants of the international conference in The Hague, Ukrinform reports.

[size=medium]“This morning, Russian missiles hit our city of Vinnytsia. An ordinary peaceful city. Cruise missiles hit two public buildings. Residential buildings were destroyed, the medical center was on fire. Cars and trams were on fire. This is an audacious act of Russian terror. People couldn't do that. They are beasts! Eight missiles, two of which hit downtown. As of this moment, 20 people died, among them three children, a large number of wounded...,” he said.

Zelenskiy calls Russian missile attack on Vinnytsia an 'open act of terrorism'- as it happened

https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...ain-exports-russia-shells-mykolaiv-mayor-says

Ukrainian rescue teams hunt for survivors in Vinnytsia

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...ms-hunt-for-survivors-in-vinnytsia/ar-AAZBF1Z


Look at this stagemaking.

They put the baby stroller on the street far from the strike but making you think they were victims..
and the two sneakers (implying the person died) neatly - NEATLY left paired beside it, obviously dropped there by a single hand.
There is a White Helmets type operation in Ukraine responsible for "documenting" Russia's war crimes.
Then they call in AP to take photos of their work.

 

[TheTexan]

Putin has said for quite some time now that if the US continues to escalate this, they will begin hitting decision making centers.

 

[TheTexan]

It's hard to say whether or not there actually are any civilian casualties from this strike (Ukraine lies, always),

but if there are, that's sad and regrettable.

But the difference between Ukraine and Russia, is that Russia is striking military targets and making an effort to avoid civilian casualties, whereas with Ukraine, the civilians are the target.

 

[TheTexan]

From https://t.me/waronfakesen/467

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Fake news:
(https://telegra.ph/file/9564edc00887cc0d1869d.jpg)The Russian Armed Forces have hit a maternity hospital and a medical center in Vinnytsia. Volodymyr Zelensky and the Ukrainian media claim this.

The fact:
The missiles struck the Officers' Club, converted into a temporary military accommodation facility under martial law. The missiles struck two wings of the building and the landing points are clearly visible in the pictures (https://t.me/ASupersharij/10122) from different angles. The central part of the building, where the hall for entertainment events is located, was not damaged.

Damage to the medical center, which the Ukrainian side has positioned as one of the targets of the attack, was caused by the spread (https://t.me/rybar/35526?single) of the blast wave and flying shrapnel. The building contained MRI and X-ray equipment. Combined with disinfectants, they caused a major fire. A direct hit would have left the medical center with no walls. Photos show bent metal structures and pieces of mineral wool, that most certainly were a factor in the fire, can be seen in the car park next to the building.

The first videos and photos (https://t.me/bbbreaking/129896) clearly show a big crowd of people in military uniforms (https://t.me/belvestnik/28042), including men armed with automatic rifles. This serves evidence that refutes the Ukrainian side's claim about the Officers' Club being used solely as a civilian facility.

The building housed the barracks of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the Air Force command. Foreign mercenaries were also trained there. Journalist Oleksandr Stolyarov from Vinnytsia wrote about it. On his page in social networks, he asks a direct question (https://t.me/ASupersharij/10143) - why the Ukrainian media and Telegram channels write about the strikes in the medical center and consumer services center "Jubilee", but overlook the information about the direct hit in two wings of the House of Officers. And he wonders why the military infrastructure is located directly in the center of the city, populated by civilians.

 

[pcosmar]

I think I saw one of those Munition hits..

Quite the nice Fireworks show,, for the Tax dollars expended.

 

[69360]

Seems like a legitimate military target by the Russian account. Ukraine doesn't try to dispute?

 

[vita3]

Looking like legit & effective miltary target deep inside Ukraine..that killed many innocents

Again, Ukraine needs to face reality & save innocent lives by negotiating

Doubt they will because of their over stubbornness & heartless neo cons controlling them

 

[TheTexan]

..that killed many innocents

According to Ukrainian authorities, anyway.

If there were as many innocent people killed as they claim, and children particularly, they would have eagerly posted proof of it by now.

 

[vita3]

According to Ukrainian authorities, anyway.

If there were as many innocent people killed as they claim, and children particularly, they would have eagerly posted proof of it by now.

Multiple pro Russians sources I follow, acknowledge innocents were killed. How could they not with that large of a missile in crowded city center?

War is hell

 

[TheTexan]

Multiple pro Russians sources I follow, acknowledge innocents were killed. How could they not with that large of a missile in crowded city center?

War is hell

As you say, its improbable that innocents were not killed. I just haven't seen much evidence if any at all that innocents were killed.

Let me put it this way, when children are killed in Donbass, I can usually point you to graphical proof (a video with a dead body) and 1st person testimonies from people who were there and videos of the grieving parents.

When children are killed in Kyiv or Vinnitsa or whatever, the only sources I can find to confirm that someone even died is a news anchor on CNN who simply says he's been told this or that without actually showing testimony from any of the victims.

 

[TheTexan]

As you say, its improbable that innocents were not killed. I just haven't seen much evidence if any at all that innocents were killed.

Let me put it this way, when children are killed in Donbass, I can usually point you to graphical proof (a video with a dead body) and 1st person testimonies from people who were there and videos of the grieving parents.

When children are killed in Kyiv or Vinnitsa or whatever, the only sources I can find to confirm that someone even died is a news anchor on CNN who simply says he's been told this or that without actually showing testimony from any of the victims.

As perhaps an explanation for the above, I happened to come across this telegram post from what I assume is a pro-Ukrainian Vinnytsia journalist.

Basically - it is prohibited to capture audio/video of an event such as Vinnitsya until many hours later. Which explains a shortage of the type of graphical proof I am looking for... but the reason for such a policy should be patently obvious of course.

https://t.me/VinnytsiaTelegram/4846

Translated from Ukrainian:

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Push in the back

Yesterday was a difficult day. Emotions still run wild inside. But I breathe out. And I want someone to read this post and draw conclusions about the work of journalists.

I arrived with my journalist at the place of arrival after 20 minutes. They put on vests with press stickers, because they understood that there could be more shelling.
The policemen, who stretched the tape, did not allow to pass behind it.
OK.
I explain to them. That the Ministry of Culture and Information Policy of Ukraine and the Ministry of Defense allow journalists to collect (!) information immediately after arrival. You can publish after three hours (for civilian objects) and after 12 hours for military ones. I get "no way" in response. Seriously?
OK.
Deputy Mayor Halyna Yakubovych is passing by here and what is she doing? Right. Leads the film crew of Vita TV channel. That is, one can.
Others do not.

I am calling the chief of the regional police, Ivan Ishchenko. Please allow me to enter. Then I hand the phone over to the policeman. I explain that everyone has already been admitted here. Launch We take some pictures. Bodies are being carried past us. We work. And we are looking for the body of our friend... After 10 minutes, the policemen run up, shout and demand to "take down". I say that we have permission from the chief of police. He replies that he doesn't care about his boss. Only with the permission of the governor. Serhiy Borzov, head of the Vinnytsia Regional State Administration, is recruiting with him. He gives permission. The police hear it. I hang up. They tell me: he did not allow it. I begin to explain the rights of journalists. They start pushing me in the back. Please do not do this. Again and again he pushes in the back and shouts "get out". The idiot who did it is Andrii Martynyuk, the commander of the rapid response company.

After that I left the scene of the tragedy. And then he returned a few hours later as part of Vinnytsia and international journalists.

Consider this post my appeal to the authorities and law enforcement agencies.
1. Tell your employees that journalists have the right to work at the scene of events and tragedies! This is directly written in Article 26! There is also permission and recommendations from the Ministry of Defense!
2. Do not obstruct the work of journalists! There is criminal liability for this.
3. Journalists, like the police, doctors, rescuers - do their job!
4. It cannot be the case that "your" journalists can work, but others cannot.

Is it still possible? In the photo are those who could.

 

[pcosmar]

Multiple pro Russians sources I follow, acknowledge innocents were killed. How could they not with that large of a missile in crowded city center?

War is hell

The poor nazis were all innocent.. ask them.

but only Human Shields can claim that.