Russell Brand May Have Started a Revolution Last Night

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Russell Brand May Have Started a Revolution Last Night


The revolution itself may not be televised, but on last night's edition of the BBC's Newsnight, viewers may have witnessed the start of one.

Actor-slash-comedian-slash-Messiah Russell Brand, in his capacity as guest editor of the New Statesman's just-published revolution-themed issue, was invited to explain to Jeremy Paxman why anyone should listen to a man who has never voted in his life.

"I don't get my authority from this preexisting paradigm which is quite narrow and only serves a few people," Russell responded. "I look elsewhere for alternatives that might be of service to humanity."

And with that, the first shots of Russell's revolutionary interview were fired.

Over the course of the following ten-or-so minutes, Brand and Paxo volleyed back and forth over subjects ranging from political apathy, to corporate greed, to gorgeous beards.

Throughout the interview, Brand repeatedly dodged Paxman's efforts to trivialize his message — at one point Paxman literally called Brand a "very trivial man" — until finally, even the entrenched newsman appeared to relent against the rushing tide of Brand's valid arguments.

After Brand reminded Paxman that he cried after learning that his grandma too had been "fucked over" by aristocrats, the Newsnight host was stunned into silence.

"If we can engage that feeling and change things, why wouldn't we?" Brand crescendoed. "Why is that naive? Why is that not my right because I'm an 'actor'? I've taken the right. I don't need the right from you. I don't need the right from anybody. I'm taking it."
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Obviously things aren't any different across the Pond! Where there are politicians and bankers there is plight. Its time to remind them all!
Remember, remember!
The fifth of November,
The Gunpowder treason and plot;
I know of no reason
Why the Gunpowder treason
Should ever be forgot!
 
Brand seems like a brilliant guy. Unfortunately, like the OWS crowd and most folks on the alternative left, he's great at honing in on all that's wrong and correctly identifying many of our problems, but terrible at prescribing sustainable and moral policy solutions to those ills. When he comes to the point of disabusing himself of the idea that "greedy corporations" need to be taxed more, and when he embraces non-aggression as a universal axiom, I'll take him a lot more seriously.
 
The revolution itself may not be televised, but on last night's edition of the BBC's Newsnight, viewers may have witnessed the start of one.



 
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Reminds me of the Zeitgeist "movement" that went nowhere.
 
You really think some dude that used to bang Katy Perry is going to start a revolution?
 
Brand seems like a brilliant guy. Unfortunately, like the OWS crowd and most folks on the alternative left, he's great at honing in on all that's wrong and correctly identifying many of our problems, but terrible at prescribing sustainable and moral policy solutions to those ills. When he comes to the point of disabusing himself of the idea that "greedy corporations" need to be taxed more, and when he embraces non-aggression as a universal axiom, I'll take him a lot more seriously.

This reminds me of the 60's.

Think about it. No one is a perfect you and even you are changing. None of us may be exactly what you may want us to be.

I think we are going to have to grab the beauty out of the story. No need to harsh our buzz with something we aren't liking at the moment. Maybe as we let it go they are also, and free to come over, if we are still even there when they do.

In the sixties it seemed like the things people were saying range like a bell. I don't know if you've ever experienced the ringing sound that comes from... I just don't know where. I can't even but my finger on it or explain it.

Just sometimes the ringing reverberates. No I think the word is resonates.


BuddyRey,

It is pretty disturbing that a lot of people see the solution to the problem as more socialism. For me I think it is the stealth back-door socialism that has got us dragged down to where were at. It sucks the strength out of the capital, capitalism needs to operate.

We have to allow some competition to the counterfeiting at the central banks and give a voice back to the honest hard earned dollar.
 
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No, they shouldn't be taxed more - they shouldn't be taxed at all. Profits should be taxed once (when they trickle down to the stockholders). Likewise. the stockholders should be held fully liable for any damage the corporation causes (proportionally to their share of the corporation). Get the state out of the corporation business.

What we really need is for the corporations to get out of the states business.
Ban lobbying
Ban corporate donations. The stockholders already have a vote, they shouldn't be able to buy another vote.
Get rid of corporate personjood.

Do those three things and most of the problems in this country would fix themselves.

-t
 
You really think some dude that used to bang Katy Perry is going to start a revolution?

In the sixties some of the heavy hitters were;

Pat Paulsen

The Smothers Brothers

George Carlin

Rowan & Martin's Laugh In

Many others...
 
When he comes to the point of disabusing himself of the idea that "greedy corporations" need to be taxed more, and when he embraces non-aggression as a universal axiom, I'll take him a lot more seriously.
Corporation don't pay taxes.

Their employees, stakeholders and consumers do.
 
Corporation don't pay taxes.

Their employees, stakeholders and consumers do.


That's so true.

Think about a profit margin of 20% on an untaxed business.

Then compare it with a profit margin of 20% on a heavily taxed business.

While your there consider the escalation on an insurance industry caused by fraud and expanding list of this or that's. Might make living with some of it quite profitable.
 
It's several days after whatever rant that was, and guess what: no revolution. That's right, Russell freaking Brand, the comedian, didn't start an economic revolution, not even the slightest social disturbance, much less upheaval. Russell Brand is a joke because that's how he makes his living.
 
Are you saying that people shouldn't be able to band together as a consensual group and lobby their government as a group? Would that also apply to groups other than corporations?

I think it should apply.

Tangentforpaul is absolutely correct.
 
That's the way it ought to be - and is for those who take advantage of all the loop holes and tax breaks. But in general, they pay.

Huh? How does a corporation pay tax? It is taken from the pockets of their employees, stakeholders and consumers. If they don't pass it along, they go out of business.
 
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