RPF Projects - Who's interested?

[willwash]

I vote for CPS defense as a primary focus.

Thoughts?

 

[limequat]

I vote for CPS defense as a primary focus.

Thoughts?

If you want it, start it. If people support you, they'll donate. I would donate.


OK, separately...who knows how to start a chip-in???

 

[mosquitobite]

I vote for CPS defense as a primary focus.

Thoughts?

I wouldn't be opposed to this idea, but we need a good poster case to take up, I believe.

How can we make big news of one poor family's case?

 

[osan]

I know the gov't has pissed all over the constitution, but is there any reason not to try and make it relevant again?

It is certainly a more timid step. I reiterate my assertion that the American Constitution is a weak document. VERY weak in an abundance of places. The very fact that it provides a legal mechanism by which to steal from the people should be a loud and glaring clue.

I will grant that were we to conduct the political business of this nation in the terms of strict constructionism this land would be immeasurably better a place, but we would still be serfs in a manner and degree. Could I live with that? Yes. Were the men in positions of political power well educated, courageous, and wholly resistant to corruption of any sort in the discharge of their official duties, I daresay few people would have legitimate cause for complaint because 99%++ of governmental trespass would simply vanish.

But men are not like that. The are, on average, scumbags. Oh sure, the average man is "nice", but nice does not come even close to cutting it. I'd rather they were impossibly nasty but were also men of integrity who would live by the principles of proper human relations without exception. THEN the land would be a finer place. "Nice" rapidly loses all its value and appeal when such persons give in to the temptations of purse and power. All of a sudden "nice" betrays itself as a flimsily superficial quality upon which no man may reliably depend.

But let us put all that aside. One more flaw of our Constitution lays not in what it contains, but what it does not. It is said the Framers regarded right and wrong to be such blatantly obvious specifications of truth that they bore no explicit mention in their elegant little document. The Constitution may be a fine document for a nation of saints, but it is grossly inadequate in a land populated by mere men. At the very least, I would amend the Constitution to include a formally proven treatise listing the principles of proper human relations. And with that, a dictionary of relevant terms. This is the bare minimum, mind you. It precisely because the Constitution fails to address the basic meanings of the terms used therein and makes no litany of the principles underpinning proper human relations that the vermin of both sides of the aisle are able to pull off their outrageous stunts.

My reason for suggesting the authoring and peer-review of a treatise on proper human relations is precisely because people are generally so deep in ignorance of anything of this nature that it is impossible for them to know when they are being slipped the salami by smiling strangers bearing gifts and promises of free stuff. What is morally acceptable, mandatory, and prohibited is argued any of a thousand different ways and most of those arguments are made based in the most transparently flawed logic imaginable. Much of this is because nearly every issue facing us today has been boiled down to matters of mere opinion. This is precisely where the progressives have enjoyed their most glorious victory over the Individual. All opinions are equally valid, meaning that there is absolutely nothing worthy of a fight. This in turn reduces positive political reality to the realization of the the opinions of those who show the biggest political schlong and the most determined will to use it. IOW, might makes reality, pure and simple.

Some things are not matters of opinion and people need to know not only that this is true, but what those things are and come to an understanding, an appreciation, a respect, a valuation of these things. That respect should drive an attitude of willingness to fight for those things, not for "government's" sake, nor that of the "nation", but for oneself; for the love of one's life, his freedom, and those of his children, family, everyone he loves and values, and even those of his fellows to whom he is a complete stranger.

Without a well developed understanding, respect of, and love for these most basic and universally applicable tenets, no man is likely to be settled in his knowledge of right and wrong as exist in the plane of human affairs. Without that, he has no idea how to proceed - what to accept as tolerable and what to reject.

Unless we begin at the beginning, we doom ourselves and posterity to yet another iteration of the same old shit. People have been doing the EXACT same things for at least 8K years and the results have been perfectly uniform in terms of ultimate dispositions. That qualifies not as just mere insanity, but of a mental affliction of truly staggering monument. Seriously, how can anyone look back up human history and not be utterly abashed by what he sees? Same shit, different generation of dumbasses.

The choice is ours. I'm 57 and God willing I will not last very many more years because, to be honest, this world of endless corruption and stupidity has begun to bore me. I see no fascination in the petty idiocy of the common man and the grandiose stupidity of the government official. Therefore, it makes no difference to me whether those who whom the reins shall fall in a few short years choose freedom or serfdom. I've lived well and long enough to say I can go forward (downward???) now if I must. In another ten years I suspect I will more than ready to go, all else equal. My point is that I have no horse of note in this race. I can go this way or that as I am hopefully approaching my sunset before much longer. But what of the rest of you; the young people here? What of your children and grandchildren? Do you want them to grow up dumber than posts? If not, you'd better get your asses hopping because if you do not, they may grow in to people with just enough intellectual awareness to envy the posts.

The fundamentals are really important. If you trust nothing I ever wrote here or may yet write, at least trust that much as being true. I would not lie about such a thing and all bullshit modesty aside, I am a pretty fucking smart guy who has devoted entirely too much mental effort to this particular issue and have satisfied myself that my thoughts on it are optimally sound.

Set the stage - place the foundation soundly; for without this, the human race is going nowhere but right back into the pit of despair, out of which our generations had the privilege of being yanked from by the presumably well intentioned men who established America as humanity's new hope in escaping from the misery of the perennial tyrant. Well, we are right at the edge of the pit, one foot in and the other on a slick of synthetic motor oil. You need to choose what it is that you want and be clear and honest about it. If it is "freedom", you had damned best get yourself learned up on what the word means in actual practice. Otherwise you are wasting your time.

 

[osan]

I don't think there is a universal set of principles of human relations that apply in all cases. Except for one: secession.

Secession is not a primitive. It is a composite, i.e., a complex conceptual structure. It is not a principle of human relations because it is no irreducible.

You will need to do better. Try once more.

 

[osan]

I vote for CPS defense as a primary focus.

Thoughts?

Child Protective Services?

Well, I'll admit that it's a novel idea.

 

[jllundqu]

I like the idea. Just start a fund, put AF in charge. //

 

[limequat]

I started project #1. I encourage anyone to copy this thread and change the title:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ject-1-Habersham-Co-Police-Shaming-(Baby-Bou)

I will be setting up a chip in to buy a billboard in GA to shame the Habersham Police for blowing up an 18 moth old baby.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I wouldn't be opposed to this idea, but we need a good poster case to take up, I believe.

How can we make big news of one poor family's case?

Well, it seems to be just a matter of picking one.

One where the abuse is clear, where there is no ambiguity to sap sympathy for the victim of the state.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

I'm surprised I missed this thread till now (but happy I missed the in-fighting and drama)

Here is my recommendation for establishing and managing a slush fund:

First off, fundraising:
Bryan - would you be willing to donate one banner ad with all revenue from that going into the slush fund.
Secondly, many sites have a special sub-forum for paid members. In order to keep out provocateurs, have some hard requirements:
You must have joined before RP ended his second campaign cycle.
You must not have a pathetic post count.
You must have a decent rep score.
That's for an invite.
So maybe access to said private sub-forum and perhaps unlimited PM space or something.

Twice a year, $25 in dues are required. You can donate more, but you don't get more votes. Broken down:
$15 goes to the slush fund.
$5 buys you 5 and no more than 5 votes. If you use a vote, that dollar goes into the slush fund. If you don't use your vote, it goes in the slush fund anyway.
$5 goes fo forum expenses. HD's, Ram, whatever.

If you fail to pay bi-yearly dues, you don't get kicked out but you loose voting privs till you do. Everyone runs into hard times.

When the Judge was running Freedom Watch he had this piece of software where anyone can submit an idea and people can vote the idea up or down once. If enough people vote for an idea, it rises to the top and they did a show on it. I've seen it used on other sites and political campaigns and I think it's free, but don't know the name of it.

About once a month, driven either by an immediate need: ie: flashbanged baby/homeless family or a forum member with the unexpected death of a bread earner, etc. OR if there is not an immediate need, the top 4 voted items using the Judges system get put to a vote and paid members get a single vote for one of the ideas. All votes are secret till they are all in, then a winner is announced. In the event of a tie, there is a run off. The reward is 1/5th of the slush fund total at the beginning of the donor period, or less if all that is not needed. This could be supplemented by voluntary chip ins if needed.

Everyone is going to end up paying for stuff that wasn't their first choice and other times it would go the way you want.

The ancestors/wise owls forum would be for strategy/project planning. After Rand's first run we can open it up to good, new blood that have proven themselves.

What do you think?

-t

 

[helmuth_hubener]

bumping for activism

Seems a shame that Casey is now banned.

 

[Barrex]

Seems a shame that Casey is now banned.

That is why I didnt see him for a while.... Why was he banned? Wasnt he moderator on here?

 

[muzzled dogg]

How about a list of causes that could use support?

Let individuals decide which ones they donate to