Ron Paul: "The Real Meaning of President Obama’s National Security Speeches"

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Ron Paul: "The Real Meaning of President Obama’s National Security Speeches"

This past Thursday and Friday, President Obama delivered two speeches designed to outline his new thinking on national security and counter-terrorism. While much was made in the media of the president’s statements at the National Defense University and the US Naval Academy suggesting that the most active phase of US military action overseas was coming to an end, this “new” approach is but the same old policy wrapped in new packaging. In these addresses, the president panders to the progressives, while continually expanding and solidifying the "enabling act” principle.

The president will continue and even expand drone attacks overseas because they are “less deadly” than ground invasions. He promises to be more careful in the future.

He is entertaining the introduction of “kill courts” which will meet in secret to decide who is to be executed without trial or charge. He promises these will have sufficient oversight.

He will seek a new and updated Authorization for the Use of Military Force to expand his legal authority to wage war wherever and whenever he wants. He promises it will one day be repealed.

He will continue to indefinitely detain at Guantanamo individuals who have been neither charged nor convicted of any crime, and who cannot even be tried because they were tortured and thus the evidence is tainted. He promises to “commit to a process of closing GTMO.”

The speech speaks of more war and more killing and more interventionism all masked in the language of withdrawal.

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This just proves Ron Paul is a million times a better person than I could ever be. Not only is he out there fighting for liberty every day, but he actually listened to the speech. My gut reaction would have just been "Nothing to see here, he's a traitor and should be sentenced as such, AGAIN" without actually listening to the speech.
 
This just proves Ron Paul is a million times a better person than I could ever be. Not only is he out there fighting for liberty every day, but he actually listened to the speech. My gut reaction would have just been "Nothing to see here, he's a traitor and should be sentenced as such, AGAIN" without actually listening to the speech.

I'd read the transcript.

In fact, in this case I did. I can't bear listening to and watching the posturing, though. I understand the protest was kinda good, with code pink yelling about Awlaki's 16 year old son, and so forth....
 
"the posturing"? do you mean how obama says "uhh um" 1000 times? do you mean how he looks left at 45deg, then right 45deg, then back down to his paper, then starting all over again? me as well if so.
I'd read the transcript.

In fact, in this case I did. I can't bear listening to and watching the posturing, though. I understand the protest was kinda good, with code pink yelling about Awlaki's 16 year old son, and so forth....
 
First, thanks for posting. I hear the speech itself and forget to look for any response from people like Ron and Glen Greenwald. In the moment, I actually thought the speech was OK insofar as it seemed to be encouraging debate on war authorization powers and whatnot. But as you go back and think about it, Obama really is trying to sweet talk progressives into accepting Bush-style permanent war policy.

Second... important articles like this really should go in General Politics. I don't check "grassroots central" anymore given that Dr. Paul has retired from politics, and I know most of the rest of the forum is in the same boat.
 
He himself sets a new precedent?

This sounds very dangerous and if I was in his position that last sort of thing I would want to get started. It's a big world out there. Love they neighbor and all. They could be sending his love right back.

"He is entertaining the introduction of “kill courts” which will meet in secret to decide who is to be executed without trial or charge. He promises these will have sufficient oversight."


So his, right?


"set a precedent

to establish a pattern; to set a policy that must be followed in future cases."





Thank goodness the military is now authorized to interven in the laws inside of the country?

U.S. Military ‘Power Grab’ Goes Into Effect-Pentagon Unilaterally Grants Itself Authority

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?414487-U-S-Military-%91Power-Grab%92-Goes-Into-Effect-Pentagon-Unilaterally-Grants-Itself-Authority

"The U.S. military is prohibited from intervening in domestic affairs except where provided under Article IV of the Constitution in cases of domestic violence that threaten the government of a state or the application of federal law."

"Federal military commanders have the authority, in extraordinary emergency circumstances where prior authorization by the President is impossible and duly constituted local authorities are unable to control the situation, to engage temporarily in activities that are necessary to quell large-scale, unexpected civil disturbances."
 
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This just proves Ron Paul is a million times a better person than I could ever be. Not only is he out there fighting for liberty every day, but he actually listened to the speech. My gut reaction would have just been "Nothing to see here, he's a traitor and should be sentenced as such, AGAIN" without actually listening to the speech.


I reach for my remote like the Brady Bunch has just come on.
 
First, thanks for posting. I hear the speech itself and forget to look for any response from people like Ron and Glen Greenwald. In the moment, I actually thought the speech was OK insofar as it seemed to be encouraging debate on war authorization powers and whatnot. But as you go back and think about it, Obama really is trying to sweet talk progressives into accepting Bush-style permanent war policy.

Second... important articles like this really should go in General Politics. I don't check "grassroots central" anymore given that Dr. Paul has retired from politics, and I know most of the rest of the forum is in the same boat.

I'll copy it there, but Ron does a lot of stuff that doesn't go in general politics, he is on sort of a lull now but is supposed to be doing something 'big' this summer (recognizing that was Lew Rockwell's description and he thinks anything Ron does is big.)
 
Second... important articles like this really should go in General Politics. I don't check "grassroots central" anymore given that Dr. Paul has retired from politics, and I know most of the rest of the forum is in the same boat.

Just use the New Posts button at the top of the page as most people do. Or check RPGC once in a while... Ron is still doing lots of important work outside of congress so there is a lot of great stuff in his forum and not an overwhelming amount to keep up with, RPGC is where it gets posted.
 
He himself sets a new precedent?

This sounds very dangerous and if I was in his position that last sort of thing I would want to get started. It's a big world out there. Love they neighbor and all. They could be sending his love right back.

"He is entertaining the introduction of “kill courts” which will meet in secret to decide who is to be executed without trial or charge. He promises these will have sufficient oversight."


So his, right?


"set a precedent

to establish a pattern; to set a policy that must be followed in future cases."





Thank goodness the military is now authorized to interven in the laws inside of the country?

U.S. Military ‘Power Grab’ Goes Into Effect-Pentagon Unilaterally Grants Itself Authority

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?414487-U-S-Military-%91Power-Grab%92-Goes-Into-Effect-Pentagon-Unilaterally-Grants-Itself-Authority

"The U.S. military is prohibited from intervening in domestic affairs except where provided under Article IV of the Constitution in cases of domestic violence that threaten the government of a state or the application of federal law."

"Federal military commanders have the authority, in extraordinary emergency circumstances where prior authorization by the President is impossible and duly constituted local authorities are unable to control the situation, to engage temporarily in activities that are necessary to quell large-scale, unexpected civil disturbances."

yep
 
The problem with GP is that it will just disappear within a few hours. The subforums are useful. I'm trying to post more in the foreign policy one since they just disappear too quickly in GP

I think when your posting on RPF you have to decide if a subforum will be better or if the topic will appeal to GP and not disappear too quickly lol.

Ron's stuff should always be in here obviously though.
 
Just use the New Posts button at the top of the page as most people do. Or check RPGC once in a while... Ron is still doing lots of important work outside of congress so there is a lot of great stuff in his forum and not an overwhelming amount to keep up with, RPGC is where it gets posted.
Yeah rpgc is the best place to find Ron's stuff
 
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