Ron Paul Recants The GOP, Just Says No To Keynesians

[AmericasLastHope]

As we anticipate more demand-rigging, pump-priming, can-kicking experiments from Bernanke today, Ron Paul just came out with his latest stream of truthiness (via Bloomberg):

*REP. PAUL SAYS BOTH PARTIES KEYNESIANS, GOP 'NOT HIS
PARTY'
*REP. PAUL SAYS FED PRICE FIXING
*REP. PAUL SAYS FED FLOODING MARKET WITH MONEY

Indeed, what is the opposite of 'between a rock and a hard place' when deciding on just who will provide 'change' in November.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/ron-paul-recants-gop-just-says-no-keynesians

 

[Lucille]

Vid (6:22): http://www.bloomberg.com/video/ron-...-change-in-policy-8DAnnZ3rRTm0NVNFZJwYiQ.html

He liked Clint's Afghanistan and GITMO comments. He thinks the Romney people are probably unhappy about that. Heh.

He will never endorse Obamney, Bloomberg Barbie! When will people get that through their thick heads? The presstitute loves central planning.

"It's not my party. I don't like politics at all." He's happy about so many indies and Ds coming around to his way of thinking.

Thanks! It's so nice to read a comments section that's not full of neo-Trots calling him a kook. Love ZH.

 

[nobody's_hero]

Bloomberg video does not load for me. Have the sons of bitches running everything already taken it down? Or is everyone in the world watching it and straining the website's bandwidth? Please tell me it's the second possibility.

 

[tennman]

Not loading for me either. It acts like it's the load of visitors to that site.

 

[AmericasLastHope]

Hmm, it's working for me.

 

[opal]

I don't even have a player element on the page

 

[moostraks]

Vid (6:22): http://www.bloomberg.com/video/ron-...-change-in-policy-8DAnnZ3rRTm0NVNFZJwYiQ.html

He liked Clint's Afghanistan and GITMO comments. He thinks the Romney people are probably unhappy about that. Heh.

He will never endorse Obamney, Bloomberg Barbie! When will people get that through their thick heads? The presstitute loves central planning.

"It's not my party. I don't like politics at all." He's happy about so many indies and Ds coming around to his way of thinking.

Thanks! It's so nice to read a comments section that's not full of neo-Trots calling him a kook. Love ZH.

I love this video!!!! Love love love the good doctor putting it out there about the single party system. Maybe just maybe this can help heal some wounds here among people who insist we focus mainly within the GOP apparatus as that was Dr.Paul's chosen party. If it isn't his party then maybe people can finally let go and realize it is they who have to decide for themselves if the GOP represents their political positions. That it is up to each voter to decide with which party they must affiliate if they choose to do so. For many of us the GOP will not be our voice to move forward with because of the level to which we view the heinous nature of their positions. By working through as many different apparatuses as possible we can seize those disenfranchised democrats and independents he was referring to that feel left out right now. Many of them simply will not join a strictly republican movement imo.

 

[moostraks]

Hmm, it's working for me.

worked fine for me as well...

 

[jmdrake]

Vid (6:22): http://www.bloomberg.com/video/ron-...-change-in-policy-8DAnnZ3rRTm0NVNFZJwYiQ.html

He liked Clint's Afghanistan and GITMO comments. He thinks the Romney people are probably unhappy about that. Heh.

He will never endorse Obamney, Bloomberg Barbie! When will people get that through their thick heads? The presstitute loves central planning.

"It's not my party. I don't like politics at all." He's happy about so many indies and Ds coming around to his way of thinking.

Thanks! It's so nice to read a comments section that's not full of neo-Trots calling him a kook. Love ZH.

Awesome! Great video! Something those who are trying to think for everyone else need to keep in mind.

 

[sailingaway]

He doesn't exactly recant it, he says 'he doesn't really think of it as his party', but in the context of not thinking something just because the party gets behind it, imho. He thinks the party establishments are pretty much the same. Still, given some of the arguments here, as a mod I was pleased.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I love this video!!!! Love love love the good doctor putting it out there about the single party system. Maybe just maybe this can help heal some wounds here among people who insist we focus mainly within the GOP apparatus as that was Dr.Paul's chosen party. If it isn't his party then maybe people can finally let go and realize it is they who have to decide for themselves if the GOP represents their political positions. That it is up to each voter to decide with which party they must affiliate if they choose to do so. For many of us the GOP will not be our voice to move forward with because of the level to which we view the heinous nature of their positions. By working through as many different apparatuses as possible we can seize those disenfranchised democrats and independents he was referring to that feel left out right now. Many of them simply will not join a strictly republican movement imo.

Awesome! Great video! Something those who are trying to think for everyone else need to keep in mind.

There's nothing like twisting the good doctor's words and using them for your own end, is there?

You are totally misrepresenting what he said, but you know that.

 

[jmdrake]

He doesn't exactly recant it, he says 'he doesn't really think of it as his party', but in the context of not thinking something just because the party gets behind it, imho. He thinks the party establishments are pretty much the same. Still, given some of the arguments here, as a mod I was pleased.

To be accurate he did not say "he doesn't really think of it as his party". He said "It's not my party. I don't really like politics at all. I think both parties are Keynsian economists and that both parties support positions that I don't like. So the party in many ways is irrelevant. But as far as being pleased, I as super pleased at what's working. We got over 2 million votes and our appeal is to democrats ad independents so we have doubled that number. And these people want their freedom. They want sound money. That want the troops home. They want the wars to end. They want the spending to quit. And that's why I'm so encouraged. A whole generation of young people is excited about this and they know what they are getting. All of the talk...they don't believe any of this because they've heard it for too long. And now they are energized. So I am super optimistic and energized about what's happening. Because the ideas are changing. And what I'm talking about is an ideological revolution and it's much bigger than people realize. This system that we have today. The Keynsian economic system, this welfare system, as well as the empire, it's ending and people have to realize it."

I think that's as close as you can get to "recanting" the GOP without publicly tearing up your membership card. What it further tells me is that those saying we all "must work" within the GOP are missing the point. Work where you are comfortable. If that's the GOP, fine. If it's the dems, fine. If it's the libertarian party, fine. Be true to principles, not to parties.

 

[jmdrake]

There's nothing like twisting the good doctor's words and using them for your own end, is there?

You are totally misrepresenting what he said, but you know that.

How the hell am I misrepresenting what he said by simply saying?

Awesome! Great video! Something those who are trying to think for everyone else need to keep in mind.

Come on LE. Maybe you miss typed, but otherwise that's a silly response from you.

 

[Matt Collins]

If you listen in context and tone of his voice, it is clear he meant that he doesn't own or control the party. He obviously didn't mean that he isn't a member of it.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

That reporter is damn annoying.

 

[jmdrake]

If you listen in context and tone of his voice, it is clear he meant that he doesn't own or control the party. He obviously didn't mean that he isn't a member of it.

Who said that he meant he wasn't a member of it? And using big fonts doesn't make your silly straw man argument any better. Further you are the one ignoring the context of what he said. Not only does he not own or "control" the party, but he doesn't agree with the economic position the party has taken. He feels the same way about the democratic party. Does that mean that everyone should abandon the GOP and go work for the libertarians? Of course not. But it also means that your efforts to cajole people who don't want to do so to work in the GOP are misplaced. Where again did Ron say that his support was coming from?

 

[LibertyEagle]

I think that's as close as you can get to "recanting" the GOP without publicly tearing up your membership card. What it further tells me is that those saying we all "must work" within the GOP are missing the point. Work where you are comfortable. If that's the GOP, fine. If it's the dems, fine. If it's the libertarian party, fine. Be true to principles, not to parties.

It's true that Ron Paul would never TELL people what to do, but he did ASK us to stay in the GOP during the rally. If you don't want to do that, fine, but don't twist what he said into supporting what you wish he would have said.

You act like it is some revelation that he doesn't support what the Republican Party is doing. Of course he doesn't. He's been saying that for years on end. That will however change as we, hell I'm not politically-correct, TAKE OVER more of the leadership positions and work to change hearts and minds in our communities. Political parties are just tools and I did not hear him say anything in that video that would lead me to believe he changed his strategy. Our numbers have increased quite a bit, but if we split up and go all over the place, it will badly hurt our forward progress. But, it's everyone's own decision to make. But, don't twist the good doctor's words.

 

[Lucille]

To be accurate he did not say "he doesn't really think of it as his party[/b]. He said "It's not my party. I don't really like politics at all. I think both parties are Keynsian economists and that both parties support positions that I don't like. So the party in many ways is irrelevant. But as far as being pleased, I as super pleased at what's working. We got over 2 million votes and our appeal is to democrats ad independents so we have doubled that number. And these people want their freedom. They want sound money. That want the troops home. They want the wars to end. They want the spending to quit. And that's why I'm so encouraged. A whole generation of young people is excited about this and they know what they are getting. All of the talk...they don't believe any of this because they've heard it for too long. And now they are energized. So I am super optimistic and energized about what's happening. Because the ideas are changing. And what I'm talking about is an ideological revolution and it's much bigger than people realize. This system that we have today. The Keynsian economic system, this welfare system, as well as the empire, it's ending and people have to realize it."

I think that's as close as you can get to "recanting" the GOP without publicly tearing up your membership card. What it further tells me is that those saying we all "must work" within the GOP are missing the point. Work where you are comfortable. If that's the GOP, fine. If it's the dems, fine. If it's the libertarian party, fine. Be true to principles, not to parties.

A few fellow Paulians and GOP PCs here formed Flag Liberty Alliance, and they welcome everyone to come to the meetings, and are encouraging Ds to take over their party just like we are attempting to do.

 

[LibertyEagle]

How the hell am I misrepresenting what he said by simply saying?

Awesome! Great video! Something those who are trying to think for everyone else need to keep in mind.

Come on LE. Maybe you miss typed, but otherwise that's a silly response from you.

Perhaps I misunderstood you. If I did, I apologize. To me, your comment sounded like a continuation of what moostracks said. Which to me was basically saying, who cares about all the inroads you have made into the GOP leadership positions. Screw all the progress that so many have made. Just split up and flitter off in a million different directions.

I heard nothing in that video that led me to believe Dr. Paul changed his strategy.

 

[Tod]

The Collins, LE, & SA have it right.

And for that matter, so does B4L: That is THE most annoying reporter I have seen in a LONG time.