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Ron Paul on Border Security and Immigration.



Border Security


A nation without borders is no nation at all. After decades of misguided policies America has now become a free-for-all. Our leaders betrayed the middle class which is forced to compete with welfare-receiving illegal immigrants who will work for almost anything, just because the standards in their home countries are even lower.

If these policies are not reversed, the future is grim. A poor, dependent and divided population is much easier to rule than a nation of self-confident individuals who can make a living on their own and who share the traditions and values that this country was founded upon.

Ron Paul’s six point plan puts a stop to illegal immigration:


1. Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals.

2. Enforce visa rules. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas.

3. No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That’s a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws.

4. No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules. But taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services.

5. End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong.

6. Pass true immigration reform. The current system is incoherent and unfair. But current reform proposals would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country, according to the Heritage Foundation. This is insanity. Legal immigrants from all countries should face the same rules and waiting periods.​


The facts on the ground are being created right now. Every day that passes makes it more difficult to reverse the damage that has already been done.

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Ron Paul on Immigration:


The Immigration Question


Ron Paul
April 4, 2006


The recent immigration protests in Los Angeles have brought the issue to the forefront, provoking strong reactions from millions of Americans. The protesters’ cause of open borders is not well served when they drape themselves in Mexican flags and chant slogans in Spanish. If anything, their protests underscore the Balkanization of America caused by widespread illegal immigration. How much longer can we maintain huge unassimilated subgroups within America, filled with millions of people who don’t speak English or participate fully in American life? Americans finally have decided the status quo is unacceptable, and immigration may be the issue that decides the 2008 presidential election.

We’re often reminded that America is a nation of immigrants, implying that we’re coldhearted to restrict immigration in any way. But the new Americans reaching our shores in the late 1800s and early 1900s were legal immigrants. In many cases they had no chance of returning home again. They maintained their various ethnic and cultural identities, but they also learned English and embraced their new nationality.

Today, the overwhelming majority of Americans – including immigrants – want immigration reduced, not expanded. The economic, cultural, and political situation was very different 100 years ago.

We’re often told that immigrants do the jobs Americans won’t do, and sometimes this is true. But in many instances illegal immigrants simply increase the supply of labor in a community, which lowers wages. And while cheap labor certainly benefits the economy as a whole, when calculating the true cost of illegal immigration we must include the cost of social services that many new immigrants consume – especially medical care.

We must reject amnesty for illegal immigrants in any form. We cannot continue to reward lawbreakers and expect things to get better. If we reward millions who came here illegally, surely millions more will follow suit. Ten years from now we will be in the same position, with a whole new generation of lawbreakers seeking amnesty.

Amnesty also insults legal immigrants, who face years of paperwork and long waits to earn precious American citizenship.

Birthright citizenship similarly rewards lawbreaking, and must be stopped. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the perverse incentive to sneak into this country remains strong. Citizenship involves more than the mere location of one’s birth. True citizenship requires cultural connections and an allegiance to the United States. Americans are happy to welcome those who wish to come here and build a better life for themselves, but we rightfully expect immigrants to show loyalty and attempt to assimilate themselves culturally. Birthright citizenship sometimes confers the benefits of being American on people who do not truly embrace America.

We need to allocate far more resources, both in terms of money and manpower, to securing our borders and coastlines here at home. This is the most critical task before us, both in terms of immigration problems and the threat of foreign terrorists. Unless and until we secure our borders, illegal immigration and the problems associated with it will only increase.


SOURCE:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul314.html



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This thread is meaningless. How many times are we going to rehash this non-sense? If we spent one tenth the energy attacking the Welfare State we'd be well on our way.
 
This thread is meaningless. How many times are we going to rehash this non-sense? If we spent one tenth the energy attacking the Welfare State we'd be well on our way.

Frickin' A! As evidenced by the "Immigration Consensus" thread, almost all of us agree that, if there is an immigration problem, it's mostly a result of the welfare state. Combating immigrants, some of whom actually want to work here and not just be welfare sponges, would be trying to treat a symptom rather than the disease, IMO.
 
This thread is meaningless. How many times are we going to rehash this non-sense? If we spent one tenth the energy attacking the Welfare State we'd be well on our way.

The issue is afoot in this nation right now and, as I've always predicted. will be the flash point when/if amnesty is passed. Those who are not directly affected by it, don't really understand its significance to the welfare of the country. We all agree the goodies should stop, but I personally don't believe illegal immigration will ever end until gov't corruption in those countries ends. And yes >sigh< we have a corrupt gov't as well, but the difference is, people are clamoring to get in - not out of - our country.
 
The issue is afoot in this nation right now and, as I've always predicted. will be the flash point when/if amnesty is passed. Those who are not directly affected by it, don't really understand its significance to the welfare of the country. We all agree the goodies should stop, but I personally don't believe illegal immigration will ever end until gov't corruption in those countries ends. And yes >sigh< we have a corrupt gov't as well, but the difference is, people are clamoring to get in - not out of - our country.

Yeah, all those people fleeing from worst countries to come to America should be told to go home because of your precious "jobs". You have no right to a job. You also have no right to point a gun at someone (e.g. an employer) and demand that one type of person must get a job over another type of person. Do you believe in natural rights?

I would welcome with open arms those coming from a tyrannical impoverished country. Think about the 19th Century here in America. Almost all of us can trace our roots back. Imagine if all those oppressed by the Monarchies (e.g. those of religious backgrounds not recognized by the State), were disbarred from coming to America, or that only a small quota was allowed.

Of course immigration will never end, unless of course you like a despotic government akin to North Korea.

I'm sorry, but I am not really affected by unskilled labor. I also recognize the right of an employer to hire anyone he wants without going to the bureaurocrat to ask permission.
 
Today, the overwhelming majority of Americans – including immigrants – want immigration reduced, not expanded.

This may be a factual statement, but that doesn't mean the overwhelming majority of Americans know what's best. Paul doesn't say that he wants immigration reduced.
 
Too often, the question of immigration is tied up in whether or not the rule of law should stand in the case of migration.
 
Yeah, all those people fleeing from worst countries to come to America should be told to go home because of your precious "jobs". You have no right to a job. You also have no right to point a gun at someone (e.g. an employer) and demand that one type of person must get a job over another type of person. Do you believe in natural rights?

I would welcome with open arms those coming from a tyrannical impoverished country. Think about the 19th Century here in America. Almost all of us can trace our roots back. Imagine if all those oppressed by the Monarchies (e.g. those of religious backgrounds not recognized by the State), were disbarred from coming to America, or that only a small quota was allowed.

Of course immigration will never end, unless of course you like a despotic government akin to North Korea.

I'm sorry, but I am not really affected by unskilled labor. I also recognize the right of an employer to hire anyone he wants without going to the bureaurocrat to ask permission.


You assume too much. This isn't just about jobs. It's about overcrowding prisons, hospitals, and schools. It's about draining tax payer dollars through social services. It's also about criminal elements crossing over. Our fugitives from the law cross into their country and they have a right to deal with them, so should we. It's a problem much bigger than you know.

When someone you know gets mowed down and killed at the tender age of 22 by an illegal driving a company truck DRUNK with FOUR priors - look me up - you'll be singing a different tune.
 
This may be a factual statement, but that doesn't mean the overwhelming majority of Americans know what's best. Paul doesn't say that he wants immigration reduced.

What's best is for America is to NOT become China or India with a population in the billions and not enough resources to handle it.
 
Today, the overwhelming majority of Americans – including immigrants – want immigration reduced, not expanded.

This may be a factual statement, but that doesn't mean the overwhelming majority of Americans know what's best. Paul doesn't say that he wants immigration reduced.

People want legal and controlled Immigration, which does slow immigration down some.



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