Ron Paul: I’m not ready to endorse Gary Johnson (June interview)

[jct74]

Ron Paul: I’m not ready to endorse Gary Johnson (June interview)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ALj3-2KNo8

 

[presence]

Johnson's two huge visible flaws from a libertarian - austrian econ perspective:

jewish nazi cake
globalist/corporatist "fucked trade" deals; nafta, tpp, etal

but Johnson's issues are deeper, mostly in that his "liberty" positions are shallow

does he want to eliminate the concept of contraband? or does he want to legalize his drug of choice (weed)?
does he want freedom of religion? or is he more concerned about earning votes by calling for a hajib ban?
"Prostitution is safer when legal and regulated." Regulated? Perhaps he missed Rothbards "origins of progressive regulation"
"zero tolerance for violence against government employees. (Aug 2001)" what about zero tolerance for violence against citizens by public employees?
"Prescriptions for heroin & methadone at local pharmacy. (Jan 2001)" Prescriptions? When did calling for uncles's permission to take medicine become part of liberty's banner?
$3500 school vouchers? Who's paying? Reform public education? When was it a libertarian position to even have public education?
"Kyoto Treaty must include reductions by all countries. (Aug 2000)" Here we are again in the realm of globalist regulatory structures
"block grants for agricultural stewardship" WTF?
"internet sales tax" why is it uncle's job to "level playing field" for "mainstreet"
"Legally require hiring women & minorities " why is this uncle's job?




It seems to me that across the board Johnson is failing to "get" libertarianism / austrian econ.
He's too focused on "material goods" and has lost (or never found) praxeology.

this said... as I review his stances... I have cherry picked the above negatives... on many other issues he does forward the cause of liberty; the libertarian can find coalition with johnson with many subjects @ ontheissues.org

I cannot say "I endorse" Johnson... but of "the three" clinton/trump/johnson he's the lesser evil... whatever that means... if nothing else it helps drive the nail in the coffin with regard to SEK3's outlook on partyarchy as the solution; attempting to achieve libertarian ends with statist means always seems to either disappoint in practice or muddle the position in theory. I want the whole damn thing now. Can you dig it?

 

[euphemia]

He should not endorse him at all. He is not Libertarian.

 

[TomtheTinker]

I wish Ron would of run and went out gunslinging.

 

[presence]

 

[undergroundrr]

Ron Paul should absolutely not endorse Gary Johnson. It might even be damaging to Johnson.

Gary Johnson is poised to make election history by sweeping up moderate democrat and moderate republican voters who are scared crapless of trumplary. Any pandering to hardcore libertarians or the socon right will be counterproductive to that end.

 

[Origanalist]

Ron Paul should absolutely not endorse Gary Johnson. It might even be damaging to Johnson.

Gary Johnson is poised to make election history by sweeping up moderate democrat and moderate republican voters who are scared crapless of trumplary. Any pandering to hardcore libertarians or the socon right will be counterproductive to that end.

So true, pandering to Hispanics is a much better idea.

 

[undergroundrr]

So true, pandering to Hispanics is a much better idea.

Yes, it is.

 

[specsaregood]

this said... as I review his stances... I have cherry picked the above negatives... on many other issues he does forward the cause of liberty; the libertarian can find coalition with johnson with many subjects @ ontheissues.org

That is if you believe or trust him on any of those issues. Without any underlying ideology, faith, belief or even strict guidelines (constitutionality) other than cost/benefit guiding him or cementing his positions it indicates to me that he would be prone to changing his positions when the moment is critical and that he is NO different than the other major candidates, and maybe even worse. I am quite certain that I could make an argument in favor of eliminating every single right you think you have, using a cost/benefit analysis.

 

[MattRay]

Isn't this actually from early June? I'd be surprised if Dr. Paul made a personal endorsement of Gary, but I did wonder if Gary saw this interview and tried to take Dr. Paul's advice because it seemed that shortly after he stopped using "socially liberal" to describe libertarianism and altered it to "socially whatever as long as you don't force it on anyone else." And I did see Gary mention the NAP in a video from late July. Certainly an improvement, but I don't think Gary is capable of being clear enough to get an endorsement from Ron. With that said, Gary should reach out to Ron Paul and see if there's anything he can do to get his endorsement and take any advice he gets.

I think Gary should mention his opposition to partial-birth/late term abortions more. I also hope Gary still opposes tax-payer funding for abortions and Roe vs. Wade. If Gary still believes it should be left to the states then he should repeat that as often as he mentions his pro-choice stance.

With that said, I'm taking Dr. Paul's advice and voting for libertarianism and the NAP moreso than Johnson himself as well as taking his advice from 2008 to support 3rd parties.

 

[MattRay]

I wish Ron would of run and went out gunslinging.

Same. After Rand dropped out, I wish Ron went after the LP nomination. I believe he could have gotten into the debates this year considering how bad the candidates are plus how much name recognition and support he got from his last 2 runs.

 

[jct74]

Isn't this actually from early June?

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Kennedy says at the very beginning that Gary Johnson won the nomination over the weekend, so I guess so. It was uploaded on the Fox Business official channel on July 29 though, don't know why. Fixed the title.