Ron Paul has some serious ideas which deserve serious consideration. Wrong for media to ignore

Jan2017 said:
Trump tweet . . . an electoral college one pointer is worth something ? Thattda be great.
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LOL. Read the date of the Tweet. I learned about it today because Ron Paul got a vote.

Trump is ownage :)... I knew in my heart Trump was influenced by Ron Paul. But,fooled, the guy lost it when attacking Trump like a MSM attack dog. As I said several times, the Pauls lost most the leverage their had, because of Hubris.

sad. so sad. I saw that when I came back here and got insulted.
 
Mordan said:
LOL. Read the date of the Tweet. I learned about it today because Ron Paul got a vote.
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details details . . . August 2011 . . . what beach was I on then ?

Comments in to the tweet universe are current tho . . . sorta (?)
 
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Jan2017 said:
details details . . . Augusl 2011 . . . whhat beach was I on then ?
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yea and I was a fool in 2011 to be influenced by everyone saying Trump was an idiot and Ron Paul was right to snub him.
 
Mordan said:
LOL. Read the date of the Tweet. I learned about it today because Ron Paul got a vote.

Trump is ownage :)... I knew in my heart Trump was influenced by Ron Paul. But,fooled, the guy lost it when attacking Trump like a MSM attack dog. As I said several times, the Pauls lost most the leverage their had, because of Hubris.

sad. so sad. I saw that when I came back here and got insulted.
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Why don't you go cry to yo mama? Geez, what a sniveler.

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How long are you going to keep whining?
 
Mordan said:
LOL. Read the date of the Tweet. I learned about it today because Ron Paul got a vote.

Trump is ownage :)... I knew in my heart Trump was influenced by Ron Paul. But,fooled, the guy lost it when attacking Trump like a MSM attack dog. As I said several times, the Pauls lost most the leverage their had, because of Hubris.

sad. so sad. I saw that when I came back here and got insulted.
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Could you ask your heart to tell us how Ron influenced Trump? Sure is not on foreign or domestic policy. Surley not on economics or individual liberty. I'm at a loss for what is left?
 
P3ter_Griffin said:
Could you ask your heart to tell us how Ron influenced Trump? Sure is not on foreign or domestic policy. Surley not on economics or individual liberty. I'm at a loss for what is left?
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Ya, Trump has been against all of the wars in the last 15 years and thinks they were huge mistakes that has made the Middle East even worse. He just hired a guy who is friendly toward the John Birch Society and is against the Fed manipulating interest rates. He thinks medicinal cannabis should be legal and that states should be allowed to legalize cannabis for recreational use.. How could Ron Paul have possibly influenced any of this??
 
P3ter_Griffin said:
Could you ask your heart to tell us how Ron influenced Trump? Sure is not on foreign or domestic policy. Surley not on economics or individual liberty. I'm at a loss for what is left?
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Trump is going to be great on foreign and domestic policy - believe me.

He is also going to be terrific on economics and individual liberty. Believe me!
 
dannno said:
Ya, Trump has been against all of the wars in the last 15 years and thinks they were huge mistakes that has made the Middle East even worse. He just hired a guy who is friendly toward the John Birch Society and is against the Fed manipulating interest rates. He thinks medicinal cannabis should be legal and that states should be allowed to legalize cannabis for recreational use.. How could Ron Paul have possibly influenced any of this??
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Don't be afraid to spit out the piss water once it finally hits your tongue. No doubt you've seen videos of Trump himself disproving your first point. JBS, although I don't know enough about them to be to critical, were saying 'The Russians are coming' well before the media made it cool. I'll believe that we'll have non-minipulated interest rates the day I see it. And what sense does it make to attribute Trump's support for MM to Ron when there are so many advocacy groups towards that end, where Ron was calling for an end to the prohibition of all drugs.
 
P3ter_Griffin said:
Don't be afraid to spit out the piss water once it finally hits your tongue.
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I won't, I didn't even vote for Trump. I just think he is a hundred thousand miles ahead of and better than Hillary. Nowhere close to perfect, doesn't understand the principle of liberty very well - but he is waaaayy better on foreign policy and economic policy. This isn't Bush vs. Kerry or Obama vs. McCain where we have two establishment stooges - we actually have a guy who might wanna fight for us for once, even if he doesn't have a perfect grasp of how to fix things it is a better vision than where we were headed with Hillary.


P3ter_Griffin said:
No doubt you've seen videos of Trump himself disproving your first point.
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I saw the clip of the video the media took out of context, but if you actually pull your head out of the mainstream media's ass and do the research on Trump yourself you would see I am right... he was against all of the wars in the last 15 years.

Most people don't like Trump largely because of crap they have been lied about to by the mainstream media. It seems you are in that group.


P3ter_Griffin said:
JBS, although I don't know enough about them to be to critical, were saying 'The Russians are coming' well before the media made it cool. I'll believe that we'll have non-minipulated interest rates the day I see it. And what sense does it make to attribute Trump's support for MM to Ron when there are so many advocacy groups towards that end, where Ron was calling for an end to the prohibition of all drugs.
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JBS was right about the communists, and back then the communists ruled Russia. Russia is no longer under control of the communists. The communists now control our country and the NWO. So it makes sense that the communists in this country who control the media now attack Russia.

That is one issue I am pretty skeptical about Trump on - I think he might expand the war on drugs (besides cannabis). I think cannabis is a good substance that helps people - heroin, cocaine and meth are not. All drugs should be legal, and Trump is wrong for wanting to continue the war on drugs.. but he would be doing a great service if he stopped the war on cannabis.
 
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Lol, Mordan back insulting Ron and Rand and crying about how he is treated by forums members of RON PAUL/RAND PAUL FORUMS. :rolleyes:
 
dannno said:
He insulted Ron and Rand in this thread?
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I suppose not, if you, like him, believed Ron was fooled, lost it attacking Trump like a MSM attack dog, and that Ron and Rand lost the most leverage they had because of Hubris.

Mordan said:
But,fooled, the guy lost it when attacking Trump like a MSM attack dog. As I said several times, the Pauls lost most the leverage their had, because of Hubris.
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I don't see it that way.
 
phill4paul said:
I suppose not, if you, like him, believed Ron was fooled, lost it attacking Trump like a MSM attack dog, and that Ron and Rand lost the most leverage they had because of Hubris. .
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I dunno if he did it in a way that was insulting per se.. He had a disagreement with how Ron reacted to Trump's candidacy. I have no issue with how Ron Paul reacted to Trump's candidacy.

The thing is, we need purists on our side - we need politicians on our side who aren't purists who can get things done too, otherwise you have one guy in congress like Ron Paul who gave a fantastic example of what should be done but accomplished very little in regards to changing policy - but he did help get some new people like Amash and Massie and Rand and they are helping to get some things done - Rand has played the game and actually had a lot of results - Trump has played the game and gotten the chance at creating even bigger results. It's no surprise that they each had to give up some essential tenants of liberty, Trump more-so than Rand, to get there - but at least they are pushing us in the right direction. Because like I said we really need both, and we need to not throw everybody under the bus who isn't totally pure unless they are a stooges for the establishment.

I promise I'll hold Trump's feet to the fire if and when he makes mistakes, but there is a difference between holding someone's feet to the fire and throwing them under the bus. If Trump is just a puppet of the elite trying to fool us into thinking he is anti-establishment, then fuck man, that sucks.. I admit it's a possibility. But if he is actually anti-establishment, he could make some major improvements to the system that we wouldn't have seen otherwise that could lead to a more free and prosperous life for everyone. I'm not ready to throw him under the bus yet. I expect he won't do everything I want him to do and I expect to have some disagreements.
 
dannno said:
I dunno if he did it in a way that was insulting per se.. He had a disagreement with how Ron reacted to Trump's candidacy. I have no issue with how Ron Paul reacted to Trump's candidacy.

The thing is, we need purists on our side - we need politicians on our side who aren't purists who can get things done too, otherwise you have one guy in congress like Ron Paul who gave a fantastic example of what should be done but accomplished very little in regards to changing policy - but he did help get some new people like Amash and Massie and Rand and they are helping to get some things done - Rand has played the game and actually had a lot of results - Trump has played the game and gotten the chance at creating even bigger results. It's no surprise that they each had to give up some essential tenants of liberty, Trump more-so than Rand, to get there - but at least they are pushing us in the right direction. Because like I said we really need both, and we need to not throw everybody under the bus who isn't totally pure unless they are a stooges for the establishment.

I promise I'll hold Trump's feet to the fire if and when he makes mistakes, but there is a difference between holding someone's feet to the fire and throwing them under the bus. If Trump is just a puppet of the elite trying to fool us into thinking he is anti-establishment, then fuck man, that sucks.. I admit it's a possibility. But if he is actually anti-establishment, he could make some major improvements to the system that we wouldn't have seen otherwise that could lead to a more free and prosperous life for everyone. I'm not ready to throw him under the bus yet. I expect he won't do everything I want him to do and I expect to have some disagreements.
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Mordan is full of shit, and trying to stir it.

Mordan said:
Read the date of the Tweet. I learned about it today because Ron Paul got a vote.
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He didn't just "learned about it today."

He "learned" about it back in May and just wants to stir up shit again. Post #2 is his. :rolleyes:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ous-ideas-which-deserve-serious-consideration
 
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