Ron Paul: Barack Obama is Not a Socialist

[RonPaulFanInGA]

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/04/10/ron-paul-barack-obama-is-not-a-socialist/

 

[Anti Federalist]

He's not.

He's a puppet for the corporate/military/government complex that runs the country.

If anything he's a fascist, if you use the strict economic definition of the term.

Same as W.

Same as BC

Same as HW.

 

[kahless]

The Texan’s supporters often descend on political gatherings to vote for him in 2012 straw polls.

Just like supporters of every other candidate which means if he wins it is an accurate representation of party support. They had to put that in there to negate the straw poll win so the sheeple will dismiss the win. Fuck the Wall Street Journal.

 

[Old Ducker]

He's not.

He's a puppet for the corporate/military/government complex that runs the country.

If anything he's a fascist, if you use the strict economic definition of the term.

Same as W.

Same as BC

Same as HW.

Keep going. Stop when you reach CC.

 

[justinc.1089]

That was a good short article.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Keep going. Stop when you reach CC.

WW.

That would be my stopping point.

Although Silent Cal tried, no doubt.

 

[Depressed Liberator]

Obama, like his many of his predecessors, is a corporatist.

 

[South Park Fan]

This seems to be more of a semantics issue than anything else. Government ownership of the means of production (socialism) versus government control over the means of production (corporatism/fascism)

 

[silus]

Ron Paul doesn't use single words to define people. We should take notes.

 

[Stary Hickory]

Obama, like his many of his predecessors, is a corporatist.

I find this to be extremely inaccurate. Obama is a Socialist, he is doing as much as he can get away with. The Public Option - Socialized medicine has always been his goal. What he has done is to try to nudge things in that direction.

The HC Bill will destroy private health care as we know it. This is not accidental. The notion that he is not a socialist because he cannot seem to ram it through congress is silly. Lenin himself could not get such legislation through.

 

[roho76]

Gadfly: A person who upsets the status quo.

Damn straight.

 

[Depressed Liberator]

I find this to be extremely inaccurate. Obama is a Socialist, he is doing as much as he can get away with. The Public Option - Socialized medicine has always been his goal. What he has done is to try to nudge things in that direction.

The HC Bill will destroy private health care as we know it. This is not accidental. The notion that he is not a socialist because he cannot seem to ram it through congress is silly. Lenin himself could not get such legislation through.

Stary Hickory, I have read over your posts for a while now, and I am not surprised to hear you say this. You are likely the most partisan person here, sorry.

 

[specsaregood]

I find this to be extremely inaccurate. Obama is a Socialist, he is doing as much as he can get away with. The Public Option - Socialized medicine has always been his goal. What he has done is to try to nudge things in that direction.

No, the "public option" was the distraction used to get you to breathe a sigh of relief when you ended up with the corporate option. It was misdirection. It was the democrat side that nixed the public option, many polls showed people in favor of a "public option" but you weren't ever gonna get it. They simply used it to scare you.

The HC Bill will destroy private health care as we know it. This is not accidental.

LOL, that is the narrative being used by the right wing talking heads isn't it. It is simply untrue. The left is saying how they have "taken the insurance companies out of the drivers seat" and the right is saying how "this is the death of the insurance companies" The truth is what neither is saying! The insurance companies helped write the bill alongside the pharmaceutical companies. Now you telll me, would those 2 entities write legislation that would kill them? No. You are being lied to and buying it.

 

[paulitics]

I disagree. It is a joint venture between socialism and corporitism. Obama most certainly is a socialist on many fronts, as well as being a corportist. His rhetoric is certainly more socialist than anything else.

 

[JeNNiF00F00]

Its national socialism or fascism. Its all the same. Run by statists, for statists.

 

[TriangleGuy]

Technically, Obama is not a socialist. But because he is moving the country in that direction to a greater degree than most Americans are comfortable, he often gets that label (and it seems to stick). The word "Liberal" just isn't bad enough to describe him.

 

[ChaosControl]

I agree, I've been calling him a corporatist for a long while now.

 

[sofia]

obama is a communist.

ron should call him out as a socialist......the talk radio crowd would love him for it.

 

[Depressed Liberator]

obama is a communist.

ron should call him out as a socialist......the talk radio crowd would love him for it.

He isn't trying to pander to radio, and thank God he isn't. Get a clue.

 

[sofia]

He isn't trying to pander to radio, and thank God he isn't. Get a clue.

yes...he's playing to thinking people only...

that should get us about 10% of the GOP primary vote.....great