Romney 2016?

[Libertas Aut Mortis]

First off, we have no clue what Romney will say in his speech tomorrow, other than it will be a "major announcement on 2016". So what do you think is going to happen?

Hypothetically, if Romney somehow either enters the race, or some smoke and mirrors gets him the nomination at the convention, would you support his campaign?

My personal feelings on this are conflicted...if Romney stepped in and the other anti-Trumps dropped out and supported him....I would probably support Romney, at least through the nomination, in order to stop Trump.

Perhaps I am getting cold feet with my "Reluctant Case for Trump" in believing that Trump would destroy the party, and allow us to raise to the occasion in 2020....mainly because I'm not seeing the party self-destruct, but rather re-fashion itself.

I may be sympathetic to having an Adult in the White House....how about you?

 

[euphemia]

We said no to this four years ago.

 

[openfire]

I may be sympathetic to having an Adult in the White House....how about you?

Only if Rand is his running mate, otherwise absolutely not. Let it burn to the ground.

 

[Libertas Aut Mortis]

We said no to this four years ago.

I know. But this isn't 4 years ago. There is no Liberty Candidate. There is a Fascist Celebrity, and there is a Socialist Criminal. We can all agree that Romney is not ideal in any way, shape, or form....that is obvious.

The question is, if something crazy happens tomorrow, could the various factions of the GOP (Neocons, Liberty, Establishment, Small Gov Conserv, Evangelicals, ect ect) come together to stop Donald Drumpf from winning the nomination....do we want to stop him from winning the nomination?

By all means, vote for a Libertarian or do a write in for the General Election. But we are talking about the nomination process. Hillary vs _________.

 

[Libertas Aut Mortis]

Only if Rand is his running mate, otherwise absolutely not. Let it burn to the ground.

I'm not sure that he would pick Rand. Maybe...maybe. But probably not. I've strongly contended to "let it burn to the ground" also...but it isn't catching fire. It is getting stronger, and worse than ever before.

The rhetoric is changing from small gov. pro-Constitution (regardless of the actual policy) to something a weird mesh between Pat Buchanan and LBJ. The GOP isn't going anywhere. But our ability to operate from it is eroding...fast.

 

[A. Havnes]

Even if Romney jumps in, I highly doubt he'll get the nomination. Romney is seen as too establishment, and I doubt he'd have the edge in the way that he did last election.

 

[thoughtomator]

Choices are:

A) Fascists who are coming in prepared to continue to execute the plan that has crushed the country into dust;
B) Fascist who is going to do God knows what but is independent of category A fascists
C) do nothing/sit out/cast protest vote

This really isn't that complicated.

If you choose A and pretend to be a liberty person you are a fraud.

If you choose B you are choosing a strategic necessity, bitter pill though it may be.

If you choose C, then we don't need you in the conversation as you have chosen not to play a part in the event.

 

[Libertas Aut Mortis]

Even if Romney jumps in, I highly doubt he'll get the nomination. Romney is seen as too establishment, and I doubt he'd have the edge in the way that he did last election.

Very true. It would be, and correctly so, construed as the Establishment trying to take over.

 

[Libertas Aut Mortis]

Choices are:

A) Fascists who are coming in prepared to continue to execute the plan that has crushed the country into dust;
B) Fascist who is going to do God knows what but is independent of category A fascists
C) do nothing/sit out/cast protest vote

This really isn't that complicated.

If you choose A and pretend to be a liberty person you are a fraud.

If you choose B you are choosing a strategic necessity, bitter pill though it may be.

If you choose C, then we don't need you in the conversation as you have chosen not to play a part in the event.

I'm scared shitless to swallow that bitter pill. I've advocated for it before, for that exact reason.....but now that it is becoming a reality; I am doubting whether it is going to work the way we hope.

Over a decade of war later and we are STILL wanting to bomb Iraq. When exactly is our strategy of defeat going to play out?

 

[Chester Copperpot]

no fuck it.. burn the party to the ground.. ream the bastards

 

[Created4]

A source close to Romney told CNN the speech is not an endorsement or announcement. Another source close to Romney's plans said he's expected to praise Sens. Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz, who are both trying to be an alternative candidate to the brash billionaire.

Instead, he'll use the speech to criticize GOP front-runner Donald Trump, emphasizing that Trump is the wrong person to lead the Republican Party in November and underscoring the "choices facing the Republican Party and the country" in this election.

There is no way he can jump in at this point. And as A. Havnes said,

Romney is seen as too establishment, and I doubt he'd have the edge in the way that he did last election.

The establishment pulled out all their guns and bought out the media in hopes to elevate Rubio for Super Tuesday. The voters did not buy it. Romney is a non-issue here. Pro-establishment Romney attacking Trump will only help Trump at this point.

 

[thoughtomator]

I'm scared shitless to swallow that bitter pill. I've advocated for it before, for that exact reason.....but now that it is becoming a reality; I am doubting whether it is going to work the way we hope.

Over a decade of war later and we are STILL wanting to bomb Iraq. When exactly is our strategy of defeat going to play out?

The guy that at least at some point is willing to say that Iraq was a disaster - even if he feels totally differently tomorrow, then flips back again the day after - has got to offer better odds of avoiding more of these catastrophes than the crowd that thinks Iraq was a great idea and are not only willing but eager to thrust us into the next one.

This is an exercise in triage.

 

[Libertas Aut Mortis]

no fuck it.. burn the party to the ground.. ream the bastards

ITS. NOT. CATCHING. ON. FIRE.


ITS. GETTING. STRONGER.

 

[LifeLibertyPursuit]

No no no

John McCain runner up to W then became the next in line nominee which was a failure.

Mittens was runner up to John McCain then became the next in line nominee which was to a failure so let's revisit Mittens. No thanks.

We are tired of runner-ups.

Fug Cruz, I am voting Trump in the primaries against that snake oil salesman. Trump is destroying both parties and just like Rand, I got my popcorn bucket out. A vote for Cruz is a vote for preserving the two party system.

GOP establishment are blind because this has been coming the last six/seven years, now here we are. DNC is one election cycle behind and will undergo the same treatment.

 

[euphemia]

Romney is a tepid politican, at best, and a billionaire businessman. Whose wife gave a million dollars to Planned Parenthood.

My husband says he is so boring if he was a rock he wouldn't make a ripple if you threw him in a pond.

 

[69360]

He is going to say he doesn't like Trump and wants to stop Trump. I would be shocked if he wants in the race.

I did not vote for Romney in 2012. I voted Johnson.

Our caucus is Saturday so it wouldn't be a choice for me this time.

If Romney somehow gets/steals the nomination, I would vote for him this time against Clinton. The Clintons and Trump are pure evil, Romney is just bland.

 

[RJB]

I don't get this. Who the hell is Romney? No one cares what Romney has to say. Seriously, who gives a rip? Name someone. The reason no one cares is that there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING he can say or do that will change anything.

What if Ron Paul made an announcement that he'd give a big announcement tomorrow?

This is totally media driven. Because of the push, lots of people suddenly do care. If anything does come out of it it's because his and the media's handlers pushed it.

That's why I quit taking these elections seriously years ago.

 

[thoughtomator]

He is going to say he doesn't like Trump and wants to stop Trump. I would be shocked if he wants in the race.

I did not vote for Romney in 2012. I voted Johnson.

Our caucus is Saturday so it wouldn't be a choice for me this time.

If Romney somehow gets/steals the nomination, I would vote for him this time against Clinton. The Clintons and Trump are pure evil, Romney is just bland.

Unfortunately that's just a public persona. Romney is every bit as insidiously evil as the Clintons as they are serving the same master. The Clintons just do the trailer trash version of it.

 

[Aratus]

he has two "short list" choices, either ####/ROMNEY in '16 or #####/ROMNEY in '16 and not much else to think about.
he either moves at this point in a very radical way, almost despite his political instincts, or he cuts a deal with THAH DONALD.

 

[69360]

Unfortunately that's just a public persona. Romney is every bit as insidiously evil as the Clintons as they are serving the same master. The Clintons just do the trailer trash version of it.

Maybe, I don't discount the possibilty. I'm no fan. I did watch that documentary of his 12 campaign and my opinion of him improved slightly. That and he was always decent and respectable to Ron.