Response to Republican Party Officials

[JS4Pat]

I’ve been in conversations with some Republican Party officials (prefer not to identify who) and am looking for some help in crafting my response.

Background:
I have been a vocal Ron Paul supporter since 2007 and have been somewhat of a thorn in the Republican Party Establishment’s side at the county and state level. However, I think I have earned some respect by hanging with the party this long despite my disagreements.

The response below came from a party official and there were some influential political leaders copied on the email as well. It was prompted by my reply (below) to a Tea Party leader who was making the argument that at the end of the day we must all rally behind “Anybody but Obama” in November.

MY RESPONSE to TEA PARTY LEADER:

In my opinion it is the "anybody but X" mentality that got us into this mess.

Remember "anybody but Clinton" "anybody but Gore" "anybody but Kerry"? And then last time independents fell for the "anybody but Bush - aka McCain".

Where are we as a result? Bigger government, more debt, and less freedom. Why would the movement that is supposed to stand for smaller government, less debt and more freedom - fall for this failed approach AGAIN?

Principle before Party - ALWAYS.

If the Republican Party is so bankrupt of fundamental principles as to nominate someone like Mitt Romney, then the Tea Party should be speaking out against him with the same vigor they speak out against Obama. After-all the Republican Party actually claims to stand for the things we are fighting for. They have a larger responsibility than does today's Democratic Party. It's up to us hold them to it. No more free passes!

REPUBLICAN PARTY OFFICIAL RESPONSE TO ME

John, et al.

The sins of Barak Obama are well known to those of us that love freedom and liberty. Obama is counting on Republicans to be so wounded from the extended primary fight that we lay down and let him run over us to a second and much more productive four years. You and I know that he is just getting started “changing America”. Besides Congressman Paul, are any of the remaining Republicans better than President Obama? You bet they all are! They each have strengths and weaknesses. So does your candidate.

Our political system is a long way from perfect but it is still the best ever devised. The reason money plays such a huge role is that so many people fail to exercise their civic responsibility and become involved in the process. An informed and involved electorate will save us from ourselves. I detest the power brokers that carve up legislative districts to ensure their reelection or the election of their cronies. I detest the power brokers that trade principle for their financial or political gain. But I also detest the naive citizens that only demand more and more services being paid by the producers of our society. Obama and his kind “buy” votes for themselves by exempting groups of citizens from personal responsibility. That is what is destroying our society.

All four of the remaining candidates are infinitely better than Obama. NONE are perfect, but all are better. I urge you to appreciate how your candidate has educated and influenced millions of voters. Those millions of voters will demand that their Congressional and Senate candidates hold fast to the founding principles. Congressman Paul has influenced unknown school board candidates, county commission and state legislative races. You have had a powerful impact. Over the weekend I read a report that says Congress is more conservative than at any time in the last 40 years. We, together, are having an impact.

John, join with us to move in the right direction. Are we perfect? Heck no. I bet there are factions within the RLC or do all your members think as one? I think not. You are an important leader. Now is the time to LEAD! Don’t take your ball and go home. We, the Party, need you and everyone that you lead.

 

[bcreps85]

Country before party. Another 4 years of Obama might be the worst thing in the short term, but letting Republicans win with a RINO will be FAR worse in the long run. It's time they learned their lesson. I'm not jumping on board with their lies, and I hope nobody else here does either.

In either case, if they truly believe it's anybody but Obama...the only two choices are Paul and Romney.

 

[dancjm]

are any of the remaining Republicans better than President Obama? You bet they all are!

I would question this.

I urge you to appreciate how your candidate has educated and influenced millions of voters. Those millions of voters will demand that their Congressional and Senate candidates hold fast to the founding principles. Congressman Paul has influenced unknown school board candidates, county commission and state legislative races. You have had a powerful impact. Over the weekend I read a report that says Congress is more conservative than at any time in the last 40 years.

I would urge him to appreciate this.

Remind him that "The Party" did not achieve these changes. Ron Paul and his supporters did. "The Party", for all its rhetoric, has a record of diminishing conservatism and liberty in the U.S. As he points out, Ron Paul and his supporters have a record of restoring these important republican principles. He is absolutely right in what he says about the effect that Ron Paul is having on the country. This is the effect republican conservatives are supposed to have. Has Romney had an effect like this? or Santorum? are they likely to?

What more evidence does he need that Ron Paul is his man, than his own correct observations?

 

[CaptUSA]

But I also detest the naive citizens that only demand more and more services being paid by the producers of our society. Obama and his kind “buy” votes for themselves by exempting groups of citizens from personal responsibility. That is what is destroying our society.

I like this quote. I would mention to him that many on the GOP side do the same thing. When he says "Obama and his kind", he is also referring to the other 3 candidates. We cannot compete with Obama by offering more soundbites and goodies to the electorate. He's going to corner that market. That's why Paul is the only one who will be able to defeat Obama.

This is what this organization should really be pushing! If you want Obama gone, you had better pick someone who can be conservative and still get independent and democratic voters!

 

[dancjm]

I like this quote. I would mention to him that many on the GOP side do the same thing. When he says "Obama and his kind", he is also referring to the other 3 candidates. We cannot compete with Obama by offering more soundbites and goodies to the electorate. He's going to corner that market. That's why Paul is the only one who will be able to defeat Obama.

This is what this organization should really be pushing! If you want Obama gone, you had better pick someone who can be conservative and still get independent and democratic voters!

Right on!

 

[ggeezz]

I would point out how the Bush years were a disaster for Conservatism. We got more spending and larger deficits. We got a larger and more influential Department of Education. We got new, unfunded entitlements. We got bailouts. We got a Federal Reserve even more out of control.

Don't forget that the Bush administration caused or at the very least presided over the slide into the recession. And Romney is only going to be worse.

We have to save "The Party" before the party can save America.

 

[CaptUSA]

I would point out how the Bush years were a disaster for Conservatism. We got more spending and larger deficits. We got a larger and more influential Department of Education. We got new, unfunded entitlements. We got bailouts. We got a Federal Reserve even more out of control.

Don't forget that the Bush administration caused or at the very least presided over the slide into the recession. And Romney is only going to be worse.

We have to save "The Party" before the party can save America.

Good point! And add to that, that this also gave the Demcrats justification to do whatever they wanted. They said things like, "Well, Bush did it and you supported it then...", and then they further dismantled the Constitution.

Also, Republicans also got the blame when things went bad. So yeah, if he wants the Democrats to get justification and the GOP to get the blame, then go ahead and vote for any of the other three...

 

[JS4Pat]

We have to save "The Party" before the party can save America.

+REP

Love that quote!

 

[Tudo]

I wouldn't give the gop traitors 5 minutes of my time. We're already changed our voters registration and the gop will NEVER again see our names .

 

[JS4Pat]

I wouldn't give the gop traitors 5 minutes of my time. We're already changed our voters registration and the gop will NEVER again see our names .

Emotionally - that is how I feel as well.

However, not sure that is the most effective approach to take for the long haul.

 

[thoughtomator]

I wouldn't give the gop traitors 5 minutes of my time. We're already changed our voters registration and the gop will NEVER again see our names .

I've been down that road, and now I'm swinging back around to "it's time to take over the GOP by being more involved than ever before."

 

[No1butPaul]

I don't think it's better to have all of the other GOP candidates wanting to rush in and bomb Iran, and supporting the NDAA to boot!

 

[kathy88]

I wouldn't give the gop traitors 5 minutes of my time. We're already changed our voters registration and the gop will NEVER again see our names .

I would hope this would not be at the expense of being able to vote for Ron Paul?

 

[flightlesskiwi]

i just don't understand... what report did he read that said Congress "is more conservative than at any time in the last 40 years"??

i suppose that must account for the 9% approval rating.

that response could have easily been crafted by a democrat with "Bush" replacing "Obama" back in the 2004 season and it would have had the same effect.

one coin: two sides.

i don't think i'm going to stick it out with the GOP after this election cycle.

until people get this, until "leaders" and laypeople alike get over their own blindness towards their own party's inability to hold fast to any sort of principle besides moneymaking and death-grip-tyrannical-politics, the fraud will continue.

 

[sailingaway]

I would be careful of saying 'if the GOP is so bankrupt of principles' if you think you have a chance of persuading them. That might make me stop reading something, were it aimed at me.

 

[jolynna]

Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
When he says "Obama and his kind", he is also referring to the other 3 candidates.

If the GOP wants to improve on Obama, they've got to offer an alternative that ISN'T the SAME ANIMAL.


Information about a $700,000,000 STIMULUS plan "ONE OF OBAMA'S KIND" isn't mentioning--yes, he's a GOP: http://www.salon.com/2012/02/27/the_stimulus_plan_that_romney_forgot/


Here is ONE of "Obama's kind" gloating about HIS SUCCESS in globbing onto & spending MORE FEDERAL MONEY than anybody else EVER in his position, "I even snagged school kid's money (Federal Department of Education)". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgYLBk_0t6w&feature=player_embedded

The SAME GUYS that BOUGHT and MARKETED BUSH, BOUGHT and MARKETED OBAMA and BOUGHT and MARKETED ROMNEY.

Fool me once, fool me twice...WHO IS GOING TO GET FOOLED A 3rd time?

 

[georgiaboy]

Some thoughts:

Broken record.

Please clearly understand this -- it is the GOP's failure to police itself that has forced us into this position.

GOP, we've tried it your way in the past, voted for your candidates, whoever they were, whatever they promised, because you told us that they were "infinitely" better than the other guy. R's, any R's, were infinitely better than the D's, and would bring us smaller government, constitutional principles, etc. and so on.

Didn't work. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. We're ending the insanity.

We tried it your way. Now you've forced us to try a different way.

We will vote for trusted proven principled candidates who adhere to their oath of office, the constitution, and small government Republican principles, and who actually vote for and legislate to reduce the size of the federal government to its constitutionally bound limits.

This cycle, for president, the record clearly shows there's only one candidate who fits this description. All the others fail to keep their oath of office, and grow the government, regardless of what letter is beside their name, or what they've promised with their hand on the Bible.

The differences between Obama and the other candidates are not "infinite", they are insignificant; they will all continue to grow the size of the federal government. They've done so in the past on many occasions, AS REPUBLICANS. They voted against the party platform, and they violated their oath of office. Why would anyone, especially REPUBLICANS, trust them or what they say this time around, especially during a competitive election season?

We are not taking our ball and going home, because this isn't a game.

We are doing what we thought we were doing all along -- voting for small gov't candidates who can be trusted to actually reduce the size of the government. It's that simple. All other candidates do not deserve our vote, nor the vote of any honest conservative.

 

[kathy88]

Some thoughts:

Broken record.

Please clearly understand this -- it is the GOP's failure to police itself that has forced us into this position.

GOP, we've tried it your way in the past, voted for your candidates, whoever they were, whatever they promised, because you told us that they were "infinitely" better than the other guy. R's, any R's, were infinitely better than the D's, and would bring us smaller government, constitutional principles, etc. and so on.

Didn't work. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. We're ending the insanity.

We tried it your way. Now you've forced us to try a different way.

We will vote for trusted proven principled candidates who adhere to their oath of office, the constitution, and small government Republican principles, and who actually vote for and legislate to reduce the size of the federal government to its constitutionally bound limits.

This cycle, for president, the record clearly shows there's only one candidate who fits this description. All the others fail to keep their oath of office, and grow the government, regardless of what letter is beside their name, or what they've promised with their hand on the Bible.

The differences between Obama and the other candidates are not "infinite", they are insignificant; they will all continue to grow the size of the federal government. They've done so in the past on many occasions, AS REPUBLICANS. They voted against the party platform, and they violated their oath of office. Why would anyone, especially REPUBLICANS, trust them or what they say this time around, especially during a competitive election season?

We are not taking our ball and going home, because this isn't a game.

We are doing what we thought we were doing all along -- voting for small gov't candidates who can be trusted to actually reduce the size of the government. It's that simple. All other candidates do not deserve our vote, nor the vote of any honest conservative.

This is beautiful.

 

[jolynna]

People hated Bush after the housing crisis. They were gung-ho for ANYTHING that WASN'T Bush. They thought they couldn't get worse than Bush.

But they did.

They got Obama.

Now the GOP "Party" is saying ANYTHING is better than Obama.

Wanna bet?

The same guys that bought Bush and marketed him, bought Obama and marketed Obama, now they bought and are trying to "shove" Romney down our throats.

The "chosen choice" seems to get WORSE every go-around.

 

[jolynna]

Some thoughts:

Broken record.

Please clearly understand this -- it is the GOP's failure to police itself that has forced us into this position.

GOP, we've tried it your way in the past, voted for your candidates, whoever they were, whatever they promised, because you told us that they were "infinitely" better than the other guy. R's, any R's, were infinitely better than the D's, and would bring us smaller government, constitutional principles, etc. and so on.

Didn't work. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. We're ending the insanity.

We tried it your way. Now you've forced us to try a different way.

We will vote for trusted proven principled candidates who adhere to their oath of office, the constitution, and small government Republican principles, and who actually vote for and legislate to reduce the size of the federal government to its constitutionally bound limits.

This cycle, for president, the record clearly shows there's only one candidate who fits this description. All the others fail to keep their oath of office, and grow the government, regardless of what letter is beside their name, or what they've promised with their hand on the Bible.

The differences between Obama and the other candidates are not "infinite", they are insignificant; they will all continue to grow the size of the federal government. They've done so in the past on many occasions, AS REPUBLICANS. They voted against the party platform, and they violated their oath of office. Why would anyone, especially REPUBLICANS, trust them or what they say this time around, especially during a competitive election season?

We are not taking our ball and going home, because this isn't a game.

We are doing what we thought we were doing all along -- voting for small gov't candidates who can be trusted to actually reduce the size of the government. It's that simple. All other candidates do not deserve our vote, nor the vote of any honest conservative.

I love this. Copied it and pasted it into my word program to have on hand...perfect retort to GOP who accuse those of us who follow our principles of not being "team players".

Actually I need to memorize it backwards and forwards.