Republican or Libertarian

[icon124]

I'm stuck...I don't know what to do. Should I stay a Republican or switch to Libertarian. They both have benefits and setbacks

Republican - Already recognized. Easier to vote for people, BUT (the BIG but) as long as I'm registered Repub I have to deal with those dirty neo-cons. They will bother me and I don't even want to be seen near any of them lol. Plus being a republican they automatically assume your a dirty neo-con as well lol

Libertarian - They agree with everything I do, and it would be so much easier to deal with those guys calling me lol. At the same time it's hard for any candidate to get on ballots.

Logic tells me to stay Republican for the voting reasons, but I don't know if I can deal with it lol

Anyway what are you guys doing?

 

[Kotin]

i will stay republican to try and take it back.

thats what Ron Paul has pressed. and it seems to be the most effective strategy

 

[Primbs]

In all parties you are going to have to deal with people you can't get along with. At least in the Republican party you can win certain districts. Ron Paul switched.

Are there neocons in the libertarian party?

What is John Hospers? Is he a neocon for endorsing George Bush in 2004.

He is the former libertarian presidential candidate in 1972.

 

[Cleaner44]

The way I figure it, we will have to deal with Neocons one way or another so we might as well take their power by seizing control of the Republican party.

Once we are established within the GOP then we could make changes to allow other parties to come to power. We can only break the monopoly from the inside.

Conclusion - stay with the Republican party.

 

[Omnis]

Just think: the neo-cons never formed their own party in the attempt to gain control.

 

[berrybunches]

Stay Republican but vote Libertarian untill we are able to make the switch from neocon to libertycon.

 

[leonster]

Stay Republican but vote Libertarian untill we are able to make the switch from neocon to libertycon.

I would agree, but amend it a little.

Stay Republican, but vote whoever is likely to represent the ideals of maximum liberty, combined with the best chance of actually enacting those ideals into policy.

If you have a 3-way race, a run-of-the-mill Democrat, a Libertarian polling at 5%, and a Ron Paul style Republican who agrees 90% with Ron Paul and is polling even with the Democrat, vote the Republican.

Same is true if it's a Democrat who will 90% stand up for liberty, vs. a Neo-con... vote the Democrat.

If it's an average Democrat (socialist) and an average Republican (neocon), then look for a Libertarian or Constitution party candidate to vote for... don't vote for the lesser of two evils.

That's what I'll do, anyways... just my two cents.

By the way, the purpose of staying Republican is not to vote Republican, particularly... except in the occasional cases of a Ron Paul/libertarian Republican in a contested primary. In the general election, you can vote for whomever anyways. The point of staying in, is to take over the party by numbers at the grassroots level party meetings, where 99.5% of Republicans never bother to get involved. If we do get involved, en masse, we can take over the Republican platform, and eventually elect our own kind to national Republican leadership positions, and start swaying the voters to the side of liberty through the official party, rather than be mostly locked out like this year with the current Neocon leadership.

 

[Akus]

I'm stuck...I don't know what to do. Should I stay a republican or switch to Libertarian. They both have benefits and setbacks

Republican - Already recognized. Easier to vote for people, BUT (the BIG but) as long as I'm registered Repub I have to deal with those dirty neo-cons. They will bother me and I don't even want to be seen near any of them lol. Plus being a republican they automatically assume your a dirty neo-con as well lol

Libertarian - They agree with everything I do, and it would be so much easier to deal with those guys calling me lol. At the same time it's hard for any candidate to get on ballots.

Logic tells me to stay republican for the voting reasons, but I don't know if I can deal with it lol

Anyway what are you guys doing?

There is a Republican liberty caucus, whose rhetoric is very close to that of a Libertarian Party.

 

[berrybunches]

I would agree, but amend it a little.

Stay Republican, but vote whoever is likely to represent the ideals of maximum liberty, combined with the best chance of actually enacting those ideals into policy.

If you have a 3-way race, a run-of-the-mill Democrat, a Libertarian polling at 5%, and a Ron Paul style Republican who agrees 90% with Ron Paul and is polling even with the Democrat, vote the Republican.

Same is true if it's a Democrat who will 90% stand up for liberty, vs. a Neo-con... vote the Democrat.

If it's an average Democrat (socialist) and an average Republican (neocon), then look for a Libertarian or Constitution party candidate to vote for... don't vote for the lesser of two evils.

That's what I'll do, anyways... just my two cents.

By the way, the purpose of staying Republican is not to vote Republican, particularly... except in the occasional cases of a Ron Paul/libertarian Republican in a contested primary. In the general election, you can vote for whomever anyways. The point of staying in, is to take over the party by numbers at the grassroots level party meetings, where 99.5% of Republicans never bother to get involved. If we do get involved, en masse, we can take over the Republican platform, and eventually elect our own kind to national Republican leadership positions, and start swaying the voters to the side of liberty through the official party, rather than be mostly locked out like this year with the current Neocon leadership.

Thats what I am saying. I just tried to fit in a cute/catchy little sentence
I'm lazy

 

[LibertyIn08]

I'm a little 'l' libertarian and a big 'R' Republican.

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

I'm stuck...I don't know what to do. Should I stay a republican or switch to Libertarian. They both have benefits and setbacks

Republican - Already recognized. Easier to vote for people, BUT (the BIG but) as long as I'm registered Repub I have to deal with those dirty neo-cons. They will bother me and I don't even want to be seen near any of them lol. Plus being a republican they automatically assume your a dirty neo-con as well lol

Libertarian - They agree with everything I do, and it would be so much easier to deal with those guys calling me lol. At the same time it's hard for any candidate to get on ballots.

Logic tells me to stay republican for the voting reasons, but I don't know if I can deal with it lol

Anyway what are you guys doing?

Do what you feel like doing. Switch back and forth, who cares? You don't need anyone's permission. I'm switching to LP after I vote for this paleocon called Murray Sabrin.

 

[libertythor]

You can be a member of the LP and take part in its conventions and be registered Republican at the same time.

 

[OptionsTrader]

You can be a member of the LP and take part in its conventions and be registered Republican at the same time.

You are correct. You just have to vote in one party's primary/convention or the other, but not both. And in the general election, vote your conscience.

 

[libertythor]

You are correct. You just have to vote in one party's primary/convention or the other, but not both. And in the general election, vote your conscience.

And Libertarian Primaries have no weight in deciding who is the LP nominee, so registering Libertarian IMO would be a waste. By being a LP member and a registered Republican, one has the option each election cycle which one to participate in...LP conventions or Republican primaries and caucuses.

 

[OptionsTrader]

In an open primary state, I have no reason to be a Republican party member. It would make me feel dirty inside anyway at this point.

 

[Ron LOL]

The LP is a waste of time and effort better directed at taking back the GOP.

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

The LP is a waste of time and effort better directed at taking back the GOP.

It exists, so it's not a waste of time.

 

[jrich4rpaul]

Stay Republican. Can't fix the party from the outside...

 

[icon124]

Thanks guys...everyone is just adding to my point of staying Republican...I know you must take over a party from within and that is what the neocons did, plus it only makes sense because my state is closed primary. Anyway I'll probably stay Republican and deal with the annoying neocons while I laugh at them knowing we're going to take over soon enough

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Stay Republican. Can't fix the party from the outside...

Being "outside" would just be in your mind. You can switch around all you want, it doesn't matter. You can be involved in both parties. My state is a closed state, I only switch GOP to vote for some guy. Then I go back!