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RE: Ted Cruz...

Got the email from liberty PAC/RP asking for donations to Ted Cruz...

Questions:

Is Ted Cruz someone I should give money to?

If so,

Is my hard earned money actually needed for this particular race?

I apologize that I don't have the time these days to personally investigate each race, I am trusting my fellow RP activists to give me some good info!

=)
 
He has help from Romney.

Donate to Art Robinson, Massie, Kurt Bills, etc. They can win with our help, but not without.
 
Ted Cruz is in TX.

I haven't read enough about him, but there are people here in TX that are both for and against him and it's taken up quite a debate. I'm not convinced myself, but I need to look deeper.........

My question is: Did he endorse Ron Paul? I don't believe he did.
 
Ted Cruz is in TX.

I haven't read enough about him, but there are people here in TX that are both for and against him and it's taken up quite a debate. I'm not convinced myself, but I need to look deeper.........

My question is: Did he endorse Ron Paul? I don't believe he did.

No, he didn't. Months ago, before voting began, he had the choice between Ron Paul and Rick Perry. He endorsed Rick Perry.
 
Ron and Rand Paul both endorsed Ted Cruz. They appeared with him at a rally in Austin a few days ago. Yes, he needs our help.
 
I like Ted Cruz. While some prefer Addison in that race (and Addison is a great guy), Ted Cruz is the only one still in capable of defeating Dewhurst. (In case you forgot or never new, Dewhurst is the stinking scum wad that killed the anti-TSA bill in the legislature last year) Dewhurst has succeeded in getting every other major opponent to drop out of the senate race and pursue other ventures (I made the entire list in another post somewhere). Ted Cruz couldn't be bought out, which lends support to his character. He's a pro-freedom constitutionalist.

As to his need for funds, he's behind dewhurst in the polls and he needs advertising pretty bad. he's up against the Karl Rove machine. So, if you can shoot him a few dollars, it would really help.
 
Here's some debate on Cruz:


Ted Cruz's wife is a board member of Goldman Sachs...major bailout recipients. Do you really want to support, financially or politically, people who believe in corporate welfare & fraud as a way to enrich themselves at the taxpayer trough??

My vote at the moment is for Glen Addison but am also looking at Leila Pittinger.

I also have it from my friend John B, who is Ron Paul's Chief of Security, that Cruz told Ron Paul after Ron Paul endorsed him at the rally and in RP's emailers that here wasn't going to return the endorsement.

STEER CLEAR OF TED CRUZ!!! He's worse than Rick Perry, Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich & David Dewhurst combined!!!! He has the worst traits of all those fellows, plus many that are exclusively his!!!

CRUZ NEEDS TO CRUZ BACK UNDER THE ROCK FROM WHICH HE OOZED!!




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Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 16:14:45 -0400
Subject: Re: [republican-699] Fw: Ted Cruz Needs Your Help

It's really very simple. There are two honest liberty candidates in the race, Ted Cruz and Glen Addison. They are the real deal. Everyone else in the race is an establishment politician a la Kay Bailey Hutchison or John Cornyn.

If people don't rally behind someone else, Dewhurst will win it in a walk. If we all rally behind someone REAL HARD, then maybe, just maybe, someone can force Dewhurst into a runoff. If that doesn't happen, get used to saying, "Senator Dewhurst" for the next 6 years.

Now, lets look at the two of them. Cruz has enough backing and is charismatic enough to have a ghost of a chance. Addison doesn't. I'm sorry to admit that. I like Glen, and I would be thrilled to have a runoff between Cruz and Addison, but it's not going to happen.



Glen's campaign manager is Phil Pepin. I've know Phil for quite some time, and he's a decent guy. But early in the campaign, he decided that there wasn't room in the race for two liberty candidates, so instead of attacking Dewhurst, he decided to attack Cruz. Personally, I think that's one of the dumbest things Phil has ever done, at least politically. I've spoken with Phil about this. We've agreed to disagree. He also seems to believe that Ted is a really bad person. I think he's wrong about that, too, but everyone's entitled to their opinion.



We came to a battle of words about the time Phil started running the Chinese Tire Company ads. Like I do when confronted with something like this, I do the research to get the details. And here it is, the real story:



A guy in New Jersey started a tire company. One of his lines is tires for mining equipment. He developed some new tread designs for mining equipment tires, and patented them. As an engineer, I don't see that his tread designs are all that earth-shaking (no pun intended), but a patent is a patent, and should be honored.



Now, no Chinese tire company came looking to steal his tire designs. Rather, one of his own American sales reps decided to do that. These tires are sold exclusively overseas; they are for a particular underground mining market, and there is practically zero demand for them here. I believe his biggest customers are in Africa. The sales rep contacted a tire company in the Middle East (Yemen, I think) that was a joint local-Chinese venture, and found some corrupt individuals in that company who were willing to pirate his boss's tire designs. Problem was, the Yemeni-Chinese tire company only MARKETED tires, they had no capability to manufacture them.



So the thieving sales rep and his corrupt buddies went shopping for a tire company to actually make the tires, and they settled on one of the largest PRIVATE tire companies in China. This is a fact that I seem to have trouble getting Phil to understand. China, just like the US, has both state sponsored (think, USPS) and private (think, FedEx) companies competing in the same markets. Of course, in China, the mix of government and private companies is very different, and several industries (tires included) have been targeted by the Chinese government for the continued presence of large state-sponsored companies. This doesn't change the FACT that the company the crook and his buddies settled on was a PRIVATE company, just like Goodyear or Dunlop or Bridgestone. Phil insists they are Communist, and they are not.



That notwithstanding, the American crook and his corrupt Yemeni and Chinese buddies approached this Chinese tire company and contracted with them to make the tires. Settling on a tire design to produce actually took several months. There is correspondence entered into evidence that shows the crook was aware that the orginal designs belonged to his employer, and that he tried to modify the tread patterns that he sent to the Chinese tire company enough that they wouldn't be detected as copies once entered into service. Whether or not the Chinese company that actually made the tires knew that the tread patterns were knock-offs is not established. There is some evidence that one of their mid-level managers, a Chinese female, knew this, but it seems that she concealed this fact from upper management. I'm not putting it past them that they knew about this, but it seems that nobody has proof that they did.



So the Chinese company made the tires with the quasi-knockoff tread, the Yemeni-Chinese company marketed them, a mine in South Africa bought them, and the inventor and boss of the crook found out. He sued everyone, including the Chinese tire company who made the tires, in US court...remember, he's suing a Chinese tire company for making counterfeit tires in China according to a contract with a design specification given to them by a different Yemeni-Chinese tire company, and sold first to Yemen and then resold in South Africa. The inventor claimed he had standing to sue the Chinese tire company in a US court of law. The Chinese tire company claimed that under both US and international law, suit could only be brought against them in China, Yemen, or South Africa, not the US. The US judge ruled against them, and the case ended in a victory for the inventor (and judgement against the Chinese tire company).



It may seem reasonable to you that the US inventor had standing to sue in US court, but consider this...what would be to stop him from suing again in Canada? In Mexico? In Russia? In Moldova? There are laws governing this sort of thing, and there is a very good case that the US judge ruled incorrectly that his court had jurisdiction to hear the suit. So, the Chinese tire company appealed the ruling, as is the right of any party in a civil suit.



Now, what has all this to do with Ted Cruz? Why, at the time, he was an appellate lawyer...the specialist you hire when you are appealing a decision that went against you. That was his job. Now, of course, he could have decided to take the case or not take the case, but consider this...does a Chinese company ever have any right to justice in an American court? Should they always be denied justice and denied legal representation just because "they're all Communists'? If the US legal system always operated on that basis, what do you think would happen to foreign trade in the US?



Well, Ted took the case. And that's the end of the story. It's still under litigation, and the Chinese tire company is still trying to prove that the earlier decision was improper and should be thrown out. And the law is the law, and if it was an improper decision, then the verdict should be thrown out, and if it was a proper decision, then the verdict should stand. But I think it is very presumptuous for you or I or Phil Pepin to decide that the decision HAS to stand just because "the Chinese are all crooks, Communists, and spies", when in fact the judge in the lower court may very well have overstepped his authority. Anyway, it's Ted Cruz's job, once he decides to take the case, to act in the Chinese tire company's best interest, and to advise them to fight when they have a good chance of overturning the verdict, and to advise them to settle when the odds are against them. And that is the sum total of Ted Cruz "working for the Communist Chinese who stole US intellectual property".


I suppose that it's a good thing that nobody from Mississippi was ever sued by someone in a court in Illinois about 175 years ago. Else some hotshot Illinois lawyer named Abe Lincoln would have had his political career forever tarnished because he "worked for a Slaveowner who was trying to ruin an innocent Abolitionist".




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I don't either, but my gut tells me not to vote for Cruz. And I sure as heck NOT voting for Dewhurst.
 
He was endorsed by Ran Paul, the Republican Liberty Caucus (RLC) and the Gun Owners of America (GOA). FreedomWorks is also pushing Cruz.

I posted what little I knew about him here: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...TX-one-of-us&p=4051907&viewfull=1#post4051907

The last poll I saw for this race showed Dewhust with 38%, Cruz with 26% and everyone else with less. If no one gets 50%, there will be a runoff with the top two vote getters (likely Dewhurst and Cruz). I believe that Glenn Addison is a much "purer" Ron Paul candidate, but he lacks money and name recognition from what I see. I will likely vote Addison on primary day and Cruz in the runoff if things play out as expected. YMMV.
 
Tyler - Pretty sure those "Cruz supports evil Chinese" ads are paid for by the Dewhurst campaign. I'd be very surprised if Glenn's campaign had the money to produce and air them.
 
Ron endorsed him , but he would not return the favor. I'm not sure how I feel about that. Too bad no one asked Wead about it last night, I knew this issue was going to come up sooner or later...
 
This email is from one of our Delegate Trainers and all-around Grassroots Leaders in Ft. Worth, TX. In fact, he's pretty tied in with the Ron Paul Campaign, FWIW:



Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 17:00:24 -0400
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Subject: Re: [republican-699] Fw: Ted Cruz Needs Your Help

Where is Ted Cruz on foreign policy? He doesn't talk about it that I see,
because he's courting the Ron Paul vote on monetary policy and using Rand's
endorsement. But if you dig some, you find things like this:

"What steps should the U.S. take to keep Iran from developing nuclear
weapons?

Ted Cruz: Iran and North Korea present perhaps the greatest danger in the
modern world, specifically nuclear weapons (and the threat of nuclear
weapons) in the hands of two of the world's most murderous regimes. We must
pursue all means necessary to contain that threat. INTERNATIONAL SANCTIONS
should continue to pressure the Iranian and North Korean elites to decide
it's in their best interests to abandon nuclear weapons -- and, ideally,
OVERTHROW THEIR CURRENT REGIMES. In the meantime, Iran and North Korea must
understand they face a threat of overwhelming force if we see any evidence
that they might pass nuclear weapons on to terrorists or threaten us with
nuclear blackmail."

From http://c3.thevoterguide.org/v/dallas12/race-detail.do?id=10253526,
emphasis mine. He also talks a lot about balancing the budget in that
article, with no reference whatsoever to military spending.

He's running as someone saying exactly what he thinks is needed to get
elected. I don't trust what he says now to reflect how he'd vote, and his
past job in the W White House gives me serious concerns about what he's
really capable of supporting.

By the way, I know people who talked to Cruz about the Fed back when he was
just getting started, and he didn't care then. It looks like he's picked
up that rhetoric because it's the the quick path to the Ron Paul crowd vote
without losing the hawk vote, especially if people are willing to not look
to the foreign policy stuff and ask those questions."
 
Jack Hunter (known to be a "traditional conservative") just uploaded this profile of Cruz. I can't watch it yet.

 
I don't trust the guy. My vote will be for Glenn Addison. I'm still shocked that the Pauls would endorse Cruz over Addison. If I had to put money on it, I would assume they did it in order to get Cruz to endorse Ron in Texas. Cruz has a lot of folks behind him. He did not so I will not support the guy. Met Addison at the Houston town hall for Ron Paul and he is a stand up guy.

Also, Addison has said that he will only serve 1 term as senator. He is not looking to be a lifelong politician. He truly wants to go to Washington and try to change something.
 
Do not donate to Addison. He is a loser, literally, not his personality. No chance and a waste.

Unless you just have trouble voting for anybody at all, vote for Cruz. He needs to force a runoff and then beat Dewhurst head on. We need to elect people that generally agree with us. I hate purity crap. That fact is Cruz would be dramatically better than Dewhurst and his election would improve the Senate. Isn't getting to a better place what we need to be trying to do?
 
He has help from Romney.

Donate to Art Robinson, Massie, Kurt Bills, etc. They can win with our help, but not without.

Not sure he has help from Romney, but I agree that we need to prioritize with the others.

Perhaps donate to him after he forces a runoff, but certainly not before.
 
Unless you just have trouble voting for anybody at all, vote for Cruz. He needs to force a runoff and then beat Dewhurst head on. We need to elect people that generally agree with us. I hate purity crap. That fact is Cruz would be dramatically better than Dewhurst and his election would improve the Senate. Isn't getting to a better place what we need to be trying to do?

I couldn't agree more. I had the opportunity to meet Ted Cruz at a local event a few years ago. He struck me as a real constitutionalist. It was only a couple of hours, so I could be wrong, but I'm willing to bet my vote, some bumper sticker space, etc. on the guy. I think he may have some areas where he's still learning, but do you really want to toss the baby with the bath water? Part of the revolution is taking over the republican party. That doesn't mean kicking it's current membership to the curb, it means bringing them the gospel of liberty.
 
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