Re: Iowa Machines

[xao]

Re: Iowa Machines

Yes there ARE machines that count the total votes. Please listen and don't jump on my back. I still hope we can win in other states, though i'm less confident now unless machines are completely done away with.


There are 1800 precincts in Iowa, once each precinct has their results they dial into a computer system and type in the resutls, then a computer spits out the final results... so unless there's somebody else taking the role of that computer and has someone watching in each precinct, we cannot validate any of the numbers.

It appears to be an easily rigged fraudulent voting system. Those are the israeli machines people were talking about, btw. They could easilly be programmed. Anyone with some brain cells should know that.

This is a shame we're still living in Soviet Russia with Stalin counting the votes.

 

[xao]

take care

 

[steve005]

Bump

 

[CaptBookbag]

This is a shame we're still living in Soviet Russia with Stalin counting the votes.

In communist Russia, machine counts YOU!

 

[msirilla]

There is a grass-roots website run by a RP supporter, Jim Condit, Jr., where they've organized a vote count where volunteers call in numbers from EVERY precinct in order to prevent vote fraud. Check out their website: http://www.libertybroadcastnetwork.org

They've set up a whole system to verify all votes and find out whether vote fraud happened. I bet by tomorrow we'll have a good idea of whether or not there was fraud. Whether the RP national campaign will do anything about it or not is another story....

 

[ThomasJ]

We are aware of that particular problem. There is a movement to address the problem in several states. Removing the Die-bold machines etc...

The representatives from each precinct are to call the Ron Paul campaign HQ in Iowa and inform them of the results of that precinct so that we can colaborate the results in case of some kind of rigging going on with the machines.

A lot of people are aware of this. There is unfortunatly not much we can do about Iowa. NH and beyond there is much we can do though.

 

[1913_to_2008]

I've been trying to warn everyone for 3 months. The mods delete all of the threads concerning this and there are tons of reports of fraud.........Wake up....Some people I';ve talking to think that the mods delete the post to help hide the truth about the fraud.

 

[Catatonic]

Voter to donor metric says Paul can win Iowa
Larry Fester
Published 01/02/2008 - 6:50 p.m. EST
http://www.usadaily.com/article.cfm?articleID=215234

Analysis-Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul has not spent that much time in Iowa and is reportedly in 4th or 5th place by media polls. However, since the media has played favorites during debates by giving preferred candidates more time to speak, and now is attempting to censor Ron Paul from an upcoming GOP forum, the credibility of their polls is highly suspect.

A third or fourth place finish in the Iowa Caucus would add momentum to Paul’s campaign, but a victory would deal a death blow to most of his opponents.

Supporters of Paul point out that a potentially unbiased metric of a candidate’s support is the number of donors to the campaign in relation to the number of votes a candidate will get. On a post on the LewRockwell.com Blog the issue of the voter donor ratio in Iowa is examined pointing to the possibility of a Ron Paul upset victory.

In the multi candidate field of Iowa, Ron Paul will win if he receives around a third of the vote. Paul could possibly win with less. With Paul’s 1200 donors in Iowa, should Paul generate a voter donor ratio of 22/1 or 28/1 if there is a higher turnout, Paul will win Iowa.

Going by the Democratic numbers from 2004 stated on the blog, the lowest voter/donor ratio of all the candidates in Iowa was Kucinich, with a voter donor ratio of 32/1.

If Paul can match the lowest ratio of voters to donors from 2004 he will win. Tomorrow all the speculation will end about Iowa, but to date, the only metric that says Paul can’t win are media generated polls and their paid pundits/performers"

How many votes did Dr. Paul get? Whats the ratio with 1200 donors?