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Inside The Sad, Strange Family Feud That Helped Sink Rand Paul

Among the many early obituaries for Rand Paul’s presidential campaign that have lately littered the internet, one story has remained largely untold: the intensely personal father-son rivalry that helped derail the younger Paul’s presidential ambitions — twice.

Pundits and political writers have spent years speculating about the personal relationship between Ron and Rand Paul as the latter has sought to distance himself politically from some of his father’s more unpalatable positions. Publicly, of course, the two men express support for each other (often in the form of fundraising emails). And as Dave Weigel, the Washington Post’s Paul chronicler of record, has argued, the media’s evidence to the contrary sometimes seems manufactured. “[Ron will] joke that he’s still looking at who to endorse; it will be reported like Saturn devouring his offspring,” Weigel wrote in August.

But as I report in my new book, The Wilderness, Rand’s rise has indeed created some genuine intrafamily friction — and it started in the run-up to the 2012 GOP primaries.

One day early in 2011, Ron met with Jesse Benton — the young political strategist he shared with his son — to break the news that he wasn’t going to run for president again. …

Benton was disappointed, but with Ron out of the picture, he decided it was time to start grooming Rand for a presidential run. He approached the younger Paul and pitched him on mounting an insurgent bid for the Republican nomination in 2012. He was adamant that Rand’s polish and pragmatism would make him a far more serious candidate than his dad ever was. Benton argued that, between the fiery base of supporters Ron had built up and the new voters Rand could attract, he would be a real threat to win the White House.

Rand ate it up. He told Benton to start putting out feelers for a 2012 bid, and the strategist moved quickly to schedule a trip to the early primary state of South Carolina. On March 23, 2011, Rand made a surprise appearance at the Charleston Meeting, a gathering of Palmetto State Republican elites, and news of the visit set off sirens in the political punditocracy. Rand fanned the speculation by announcing future trips to Iowa and New Hampshire as well. The buzz was building, the strategy was working, the wheels were in motion — and then, suddenly, it all came to a screeching halt.

A couple of days after Rand’s headline-grabbing South Carolina trip, Ron called up Benton. He had been giving some more thought to the idea of a 2012 presidential bid, and he’d changed his mind.

I’ve decided I’m going to run, Ron said. And I want you to manage my campaign.

Rand, it went without saying, would have to take a seat.

Word of Ron’s power play traveled quickly within the Pauls’ overlapping orbits of libertarian advisers, allies, and confidantes. Everyone had their own theory as to the patriarch’s motives. Some thought Ron was jealous of his son’s meteoric rise, or resentful that he wasn’t receiving enough credit for Rand’s success. One source close to the family speculated to me that Rand had jumped the gun without getting his dad’s blessing; another said Ron didn’t trust Rand’s commitment to libertarian ideals. The most generous theory I heard was that Ron was simply trying to spare his son from rushing into the 2012 fray before he was ready.

After that, the Paulites began to notice more signs of a growing divide between Ron and Rand. One of the most jarring episodes took place inside a green room at a 2012 Republican primary debate, when Sens. Jim DeMint and Lindsey Graham approached Ron and began effusively complimenting his son:

They gushed about how Rand was a joy to work with in the Senate, a real contributor, someone with whom they felt they could work productively despite their ideological differences.


Finally, Ron snapped, “Well, if he’s so great, he should run for president himself.”

DeMint was taken aback by the outburst and quickly shut up. But Graham didn’t seem to catch on, because he just kept spurting commendations for Rand in his courtly Southern drawl, as Ron’s face twisted into a cranky scowl.

After 2012, many in the Pauls’ concentric inner circles felt compelled to pick sides — with the more pragmatic political pros signing on with Rand, and the true-believing purists sticking with Ron. The two camps have spent much of the past three years bitterly feuding behind the scenes (and trying to knife each other in interviews for my book). But those closest to the family say Rand genuinely admires his father and is anxious to make him proud by building on his legacy. And Ron?

One senior staffer in Rand’s Senate office told me that after years of closely observing the dynamic between the two men, he was left stupefied by Ron’s antagonism toward his son’s career.

“He should be proud of Rand, but he’s not,” the staffer said. “It’s a really weird relationship.”

Asked for comment on this story, Rand’s chief strategist Doug Stafford directed me to a quote he has recently provided in response to reporting in The Wilderness: “I love fiction, so I am looking forward to reading more Washington media machine stories from ‘sources.’”

(The Wilderness is a nonfiction book based on more than 300 interviews. I reside in New York City.)
Excerpted from The Wilderness: Deep Inside the Republican Party’s Combative, Contentious, Chaotic Quest to Take Back the White House. Copyright © 2015 by McKay Coppins. Reprinted with permission of Little, Brown and Company. All rights reserved.
 
Doug Wead was the one who talked Ron into running, he says it in the same interview where he talked about the threats from Mitt's campaign. That was after Rand decided not to run.
 
lol okay this is pure fiction.. seriously?

Whether or not it's fiction, we can learn something from it.
The fact that it's the only thing on the new posts on this site that has anything to do with Rand means that there's literally nothing else to talk about with respect to Rand.
 
Whether or not it's fiction, we can learn something from it.
The fact that it's the only thing on the new posts on this site that has anything to do with Rand means that there's literally nothing else to talk about with respect to Rand.

You are kidding right. Today and yesterday, Rand has been all over the MSM. Here is something from the last hour, just for you...

EXCLUSIVE– Rand Paul: ‘Open Borders’ Rubio Is ‘Way Out of Step’ With American People

“He is weak on national security because he won’t secure our border,” Paul said.

“I don’t think you can be for strong national defense if you’re not willing to defend border,” Paul explained.

His position on this contradicts everything that he’s trying to do to promote himself as a national security conservative… I think when you ask Republican voters and Independents, “do we need to have more scrutiny?” [Rubio] is on the wrong side of the issue. It will make it difficult for him to portray himself as a national security conservative. We need to defend our borders without question.
 
Why is this so hard to believe? It is totally consistent with the events up to this point. The people Ron chooses to associate with dump on Rand
everyday. If Ron wanted to put a stop to that, he could have instantly put a stop to it.

If you had a kid who a was a Duke Medical School grad, a US Senator, and a person who stood up for liberty in numerous instances on the Senate floor, would you be as publicly reticent as Ron has been toward your kid? I can't see a scenario where I would be regardless of any disrespect my kid showed toward me.

How about if your best friends denigrate your kid in the most vile ways on a daily basis?
 
Why is this so hard to believe? It is totally consistent with the events up to this point. The people Ron chooses to associate with dump on Rand
everyday. If Ron wanted to put a stop to that, he could have instantly put a stop to it.

If you had a kid who a was a Duke Medical School grad, a US Senator, and a person who stood up for liberty in numerous instances on the Senate floor, would you be as publicly reticent as Ron has been toward your kid? I can't see a scenario where I would be regardless of any disrespect my kid showed toward me.

How about if your best friends denigrate your kid in the most vile ways on a daily basis?

The sad part is that it isn't too hard to believe. I mean, honestly, has Ron appeared at any of Rand's appearances? Even been asked to? That's gotta chafe.
 
Why is this so hard to believe? It is totally consistent with the events up to this point. The people Ron chooses to associate with dump on Rand
everyday. If Ron wanted to put a stop to that, he could have instantly put a stop to it.

If you had a kid who a was a Duke Medical School grad, a US Senator, and a person who stood up for liberty in numerous instances on the Senate floor, would you be as publicly reticent as Ron has been toward your kid? I can't see a scenario where I would be regardless of any disrespect my kid showed toward me.

How about if your best friends denigrate your kid in the most vile ways on a daily basis?

When Ron and Rand supporters fall for the MSM spin, it really makes the success of the liberty movement that much more difficult. Maybe this helps...

 
The saddest part is that Ron should have been a part of the process from the beginning. He should have introduced Rand at every opportunity. A short five minute rally.
"Hello. Hello. Hello. So glad to see so many lovers of liberty! I'd like to introduce my son Rand. You might know him as Senator of Kentucky and the next president of the United States, Rand Paul. I, I, I'm proud of my son. We don't always see eye to eye. What son and father do? But, I'll vote for him. I hope you will to. Because.....Freedom is popular."
 
Ron and Rand both have surrounded themselves with the wrong people. I like Lew Rockwell for example but the fact he of all people can praise Trump practically everyday and not get criticized for it is unbelievable.
 
The sad part is that it isn't too hard to believe. I mean, honestly, has Ron appeared at any of Rand's appearances? Even been asked to? That's gotta chafe.

He and his wife were there when Rand announced his campaign.
 
The saddest part is that Ron should have been a part of the process from the beginning. He should have introduced Rand at every opportunity. A short five minute rally.
"Hello. Hello. Hello. So glad to see so many lovers of liberty! I'd like to introduce my son Rand. You might know him as Senator of Kentucky and the next president of the United States, Rand Paul. I, I, I'm proud of my son. We don't always see eye to eye. What son and father do? But, I'll vote for him. I hope you will to. Because.....Freedom is popular."

The other side of this is sometimes a person wants to be free to make his own way, career wise. If Ron were more involved in the campaign, people would be calling this Ron Paul's 4th run for POTUS (I'm sure a few out there are anyway). To Ron supporters this might be a great thing, but in the wider scope, not so much.
 
The other side of this is sometimes a person wants to be free to make his own way, career wise. If Ron were more involved in the campaign, people would be calling this Ron Paul's 4th run for POTUS (I'm sure a few out there are anyway). To Ron supporters this might be a great thing, but in the wider scope, not so much.

Bullshit. "Career" wise? Well, if Ron was only in it for book sales then I suppose so. The fact that he is nonexistent in his son's campaign is indicative of something. What is that?
 
Bullshit. "Career" wise? Well, if Ron was only in it for book sales then I suppose so. The fact that he is nonexistent in his son's campaign is indicative of something. What is that?
Let me be clear...

There is not one candidate who has run for president in my lifetime who can say they fully share my commitment to liberty, Austrian economics, small government, and following the Constitution, than my son, Rand Paul.

That's why I have wholeheartedly endorsed him.

Ron Paul
 
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