Rand Paul: Ted Nugent should apologize

[RonPaulFanInGA]

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/02/rand-paul-ted-nugent-103753.html

 

[CaseyJones]

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Sen. Rand Paul says Ted Nugent should apologize after the rocker called President Barack Obama a “subhuman mongrel” in an interview with Guns.com last week.

“Ted Nugent’s derogatory description of President Obama is offensive and has no place in politics. He should apologize,” the Kentucky Republican tweeted Thursday night.

Paul isn’t the only potential Republican presidential candidate to speak out about Nugent’s comments.

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) told CNN he disagreed with Nugent’s language but also didn’t rule out campaigning with him in the future.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Well. Free speech is free speech. One either supports it or they do not. It's as simple as that.

Besides. He's an entertainer. And a rock star at that. What did we expect? This is what happens when we let celebrities influence a way of thinking. Sometimes it backfires. And then sometimes it doesn't. So...hm. Here, I cannot decipher which is happening.

 

[LibertyEagle]

And commenting about what someone else said is free speech too.

 

[Crashland]

Well. Free speech is free speech. On either supports it or they do not. It's as simple as that.

Calling for an apology is not an attack on free speech. Commenting on whether someone's words are hateful or inappropriate says nothing about their right to say it.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Calling for an apology is not an attack on free speech. Commenting on whether someone's words are hateful or inappropriate says nothing about their right to say it.

True. At the end of the day though it's still just a matter of opinion. And opinions vary.

 

[Natural Citizen]

And commenting about what someone else said is free speech too.

Yes, I know. Don't get me wrong, I can't stand the guy. And his music sucks too.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

And commenting about what someone else said is free speech too.

But people can make judgments about the comments.

 

[Crashland]

True. At the end of the day though it's still just a matter of opinion. And opinions vary.

So is it your opinion that calling a politician a subhuman mongrel *does* have a place in politics?

 

[Spikender]

I agree with Ted.

But Rand can ask him to apologize if he wants, that's fine.

 

[Natural Citizen]

So is it your opinion that calling a politician a subhuman mongrel *does* have a place in politics?

Depends. What if I'm talking about a corporation? I mean they're people too. Right? And they are very political. Are they human? Where do these bricks and mortar derive? Their lineage comes from a pen stroke. So, in that regard, I would say that it's OK to use the term subhuman mongrel .

Politics is broad. Celebrities and politicians don't get to frame the entire phenomenon based upon their perception of a single factor. That's cherry picking. And it's framing the debate.

 

[Crashland]

Depends. What if I'm talking about a corporation? I mean they're people too. Right? And they are very political. Are they human? Where do these bricks and mortar derive?

This is not a complicated issue. As a human being is it ever *not* hateful or *not* inappropriate to call another person a subhuman mongrel? I don't care how evil you think they are. Equating a person with an animal is just not good.

 

[Natural Citizen]

This is not a complicated issue. As a human being is it ever *not* hateful or *not* inappropriate to call another person a subhuman mongrel? I don't care how evil you think they are. Equating a person with an animal is just not good.

Perhaps you should look up the definition of sub-human mongrel.

 

[Crashland]

Perhaps you should look up the definition of sub-human mongrel.

Actually maybe you should. What part about 'sub-human' do you not understand? And 'mongrel' does not necessarily mean an animal but it usually refers to dogs.

 

[hardrightedge]

Nice job Rand Paul...why would you want to help Wendy Davis?
Just leave it alone...damn

 

[Natural Citizen]

Actually maybe you should. What part about 'sub-human' do you not understand? And 'mongrel' does not necessarily mean an animal but it usually refers to dogs.

You haven't read many of my postings, I gather.


Mongrel: a cross between types of persons or things. Which negates the use of the term sub-human but I never took Ted for an intellectual feller anyhow.

I win.

 

[Crashland]

You haven't read many of my postings, I gather.


Mongrel: a cross between types of persons or things.

I win.

If you use "sub-human" as the adjective to describe "mongrel", then that rules out the "persons" doesn't it. On top of the fact that mongrel does in fact more commonly refer to dogs than anything else. Even if you only take the half-breed part of the connotation, is it appropriate to call someone else a half-breed? Or a sub-human half-breed?

 

[TaftFan]

Most people believe he said "mongrel" because Obama is mixed-race.

Unfortunately, Obama has used that language as well: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/111611-obama-calls-african-americans-a-mongrel-people-

 

[Crashland]

Most people believe he said "mongrel" because Obama is mixed-race.

Unfortunately, Obama has used that language as well: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/111611-obama-calls-african-americans-a-mongrel-people-

Obama said "We are sort of a mongrel people." Could you imagine if he had said "We are sort of a subhuman mongrel people"? LOL

 

[TaftFan]

Obama said "We are sort of a mongrel people." Could you imagine if he had said "We are sort of a subhuman mongrel people"? LOL

That would have been bad, lol.