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I am putting a grain mill on my list this year and I'm not sure which one to get. I'd like to get a hand type, bonus points if it can be converted to electric.
I'd also like to get a *good* heirloom gardening book. I have one that is useless already. It's mostly pretty pictures and the rest is expounding the virtues of raising heirloom plants. I'd like one that goes more in depth as to how to prevent cross-pollination, how to keep seeds, etc. Companion planting and natural pest deterents would be great also.
Suggestions would be appreciated.
If you feel like sharing your list please do. It might give me some more ideas for mine.


Just doing my part to stimulate the economy. ;)
 
For a grain mill, here is a very high quality one to consider, though the cost is kinda high: http://www.frugalsquirrels.com/store/prep_products/clgmill.html

The one main thing on my list is a little more ammo, and some extra filters for my Berkey water filter.

Here's a good place to order some very-long-term storage food for an awesome price:

https://www.ldscatalog.com/webapp/w...Anlc7FpslYerMqw//zpDmS0K&ddkey=http:ClickInfo

I'll probably pick some beans/rice from them, and get a nice stash of canned foods situated.
 
I am putting a grain mill on my list this year and I'm not sure which one to get. I'd like to get a hand type, bonus points if it can be converted to electric.
I'd also like to get a *good* heirloom gardening book. I have one that is useless already. It's mostly pretty pictures and the rest is expounding the virtues of raising heirloom plants. I'd like one that goes more in depth as to how to prevent cross-pollination, how to keep seeds, etc. Companion planting and natural pest deterents would be great also.
Suggestions would be appreciated.
If you feel like sharing your list please do. It might give me some more ideas for mine.


Just doing my part to stimulate the economy. ;)

you don't need grains, mate. Grains are just for fattening up cattle (and humans, in many cases). You can live on fresh veggies, fruits, meats, nuts, dairy, and so on.
 
you don't need grains, mate. Grains are just for fattening up cattle (and humans, in many cases). You can live on fresh veggies, fruits, meats, nuts, dairy, and so on.

Except those thing don't keep nearly as well for long-term storage. Sure, it's ideal to have a sustainable and constant supply of the things you listed, but it's often not practical or attainable in an urban/suburban environment.

I agree though, humans consume waaay too much grains nowadays. We really ought to look at the profiles of human diets of ancient civilizations who had essentially NO chronic illness, and that will shed some light on how we should really eat.

Refer to Dr. Weston A. Price's book Nutriton and Physical Degeneration. ;)
 
I want solar cells. I've been wanting to make some solar panels for a while, but those things are pretty darn expensive.
 
I use bromine tables in my hot tub. Does anyone know if those Berkey water filters can make that water potable? Or any other filters for that matter? Thought in a emergency, that would be a easy water storage/supply.
 
I would suggest you add a greenhouse and seedlings for all your favorite fruits and veggies to your list. This will help you feed yourself during the depression. A distillery would be nice too! :D
 
add seeds, ammo, and for drinking water they have water distillers that all you need is a fire or heat source and you get 100% pure water
 

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If you get that for x-mas, can I come over and see it in action? Maybe a test drive too? :D
 
I was thinking green house mats and a, um, "koi" pond should be on the list, but I didn't want to be too greedy.
I think that a distillery might make him a good present though. :D
 
I want solar cells. I've been wanting to make some solar panels for a while, but those things are pretty darn expensive.

You can buy lots of .5 Volt solar cells off ebay for pretty cheap. Wire them in series and make a nice panel out of plywood. The cost of each panel would be around $200-$300.

Here is the Instructable:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Build_a_60_Watt_Solar_Panel/

I also like this one too:
Convert motorcycle into electric.
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-build-a-96-Volt-Electric-Motorcycle/
 
You can buy lots of .5 Volt solar cells off ebay for pretty cheap. Wire them in series and make a nice panel out of plywood. The cost of each panel would be around $200-$300.

Here is the Instructable:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Build_a_60_Watt_Solar_Panel/

I also like this one too:
Convert motorcycle into electric.
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-build-a-96-Volt-Electric-Motorcycle/

Yup. That's why I'm asking for that for Christmas. Without Ebay, no-one could find that kind of stuff.

I'm also getting my grandfather's .30-06, and I'm going to try to talk my Dad into giving me his reloading equipment (he never uses it anymore, where both me and my uncle live within 100 miles of each other, and are both survival "nuts".
 
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