PPP poll shows Rand Paul trailing Hillary 47-37 in Michigan, but there's a catch

[Boshembechle]

He has the support of 18% of African Americans. It's on page 16 of this http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2014/PPP_Release_MI-702.pdf

 

[menciusmoldbug]

dat gender gap...

 

[James Madison]

Sorry, I'm too busy laughing at the thought of Detroit hosting the Olympics to care.

 

[anaconda]

Sorry, I'm too busy laughing at the thought of Detroit hosting the Olympics to care.

No shit? Winter or Summer? What year? With Rand's tax savings Detroit could probably do it easily.

 

[Vanguard101]

Among independents 39/37.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Rand does better among blacks and independents than any other GOPer, but worst among women.

That makes sense, given his priorities lately.

Let's hope he finds a way to bring the ladies around.

 

[William Tell]

Rand does better among blacks and independents than any other GOPer, but worst among women.

That makes sense, given his priorities lately.

Let's hope he finds a way to bring the ladies around.

Rand needs his version of the Putin song.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

Rand does better among blacks and independents than any other GOPer, but worst among women.

That makes sense, given his priorities lately.

Let's hope he finds a way to bring the ladies around.

Kelly Paul is his ace in the hole. America will love her.

 

[LibertyEsq]

Rand does better among blacks and independents than any other GOPer, but worst among women.

That makes sense, given his priorities lately.

Let's hope he finds a way to bring the ladies around.

He needs to find one or two principled issues that could appeal to women voters, like he's been doing with criminal justice and voting rights reform to reach out to minority voters. Not saying he should pander, just that he find an issue or two that will clearly appeal to Democratic and Independent women. Maybe that will be the Iraq war, as Rand is the ONLY Republican that will be able to attack Hillary for her vote to invade Iraq.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

He's also younger and more handsome than most of his likely opponents.

It's been said that Harding won the first election after ratification of the 19th amendment because he did more for the ladies than Cox.

And we know Rand has mad skillz, he's already seduced Jen Rubin.

 

[cocrehamster]

He needs to find one or two principled issues that could appeal to women voters, like he's been doing with criminal justice and voting rights reform to reach out to minority voters. Not saying he should pander, just that he find an issue or two that will clearly appeal to Democratic and Independent women. Maybe that will be the Iraq war, as Rand is the ONLY Republican that will be able to attack Hillary for her vote to invade Iraq.

He has (at least) one issue with the sexual assualt in the military work that he has been doing with Kirstin Gillibrand. It hasn't had a huge amount of exposure, but I think that its an issue that will resonate with a lot of women when they hear about it.

 

[James Madison]

No shit? Winter or Summer? What year? With Rand's tax savings Detroit could probably do it easily.

#DetroitOlympicEvents

8-Mile Hit & Run

Crack-Pipe Freestyle

Downhill Hoe-boarding


That's all I got.

 

[jmdrake]

Interesting. Don't forget. Michigan is solidly blue! It went for Obama both times and will most likely go for the Dem in 2016. So the only real issue is..how does this translate to battleground states like Florida and Ohio? If the Dem in 2016 loses 18% of the black vote in those states he/she is toast. Frankly I don't know why PPP even did a Michigan poll except to give Hillary a needed bump.

 

[LibertyEsq]

Interesting. Don't forget. Michigan is solidly blue! It went for Obama both times and will most likely go for the Dem in 2016. So the only real issue is..how does this translate to battleground states like Florida and Ohio? If the Dem in 2016 loses 18% of the black vote in those states he/she is toast. Frankly I don't know why PPP even did a Michigan poll except to give Hillary a needed bump.

Just because the last four neoconservative presidential candidates lost Michigan doesn't mean Rand can't put it in play. It should be a state Rand looks to make competitive if he wins the primary. The "south and west + Ohio, Florida, and New Hampshire" strategy hasn't exactly been working out for Republicans lately

 

[limequat]

Just because the last four neoconservative presidential candidates lost Michigan doesn't mean Rand can't put it in play. It should be a state Rand looks to make competitive if he wins the primary. The "south and west + Ohio, Florida, and New Hampshire" strategy hasn't exactly been working out for Republicans lately

Agreed. The MI democrat vote is anchored by Ann Arbor and Detroit. Grand Rapids is very conservative as well as most of the rural areas. Rand Paul could definitely win MI, and I only find this poll to be even more encouraging. We have Kerry Bentivolio and Justin Amash for congressmen here. Ann Arbor is where Ron Paul was first greeted with the "END THE FED" chant. The liberty movement is strong here.

 

[limequat]

I wish there was a male democrat option in the poll so we could see how many are voting for Hillary just because she's a woman.

 

[Okaloosa]

http://www.dignitasnews.com/democratic-party-fears-realized-as-young-black-males-defect-to-gop/

Beset by scandals on both the national and statewide level, Democrats find themselves in danger of historic losses in the 2014 midterms, as in addition to the “angry white males” they find themselves facing a new threat, that of the “angry young black male.” A growing trend of young black males defecting to the GOP has caused fears among Democratic Party officials who have largely ignored the concerns of a constituency that has been loyal for decades.

It is ironic that with the election of the first African-American President, the party that garners roughly 90% of the black vote finds itself in danger of losing the young men of this community, not just for one election cycle, but for generations to come. Despite its rhetoric and numerous ties to the African-American community, young black black males have become increasingly frustrated with a party they feel promotes policies which emasculate them and offer few opportunities for them to achieve the American dream. Much of the elation that came from Obama’s historic political achievement turned into an eye-opening experience for many black men, who noticed the gulf between the feel-good rhetoric of Democrats as hollow as inner-city unemployment has grown during the tenure of the first black President.

“I’ll be honest, when Obama announced his candidacy, I was ecstatic.” notes consultant Shermichael Singleton, who as a high-school senior lobbied the local school superintendent to attend an Obama campaign rally in Dallas, TX when first denied by his principal. “It was a great experience. I applauded his speech and him for running,” although this early enthusiasm has since changed, “but I’ve been extremely disappointed.”

Following high school, Singleton attended Morehouse College, where he was instrumental in organizing the first College Republican group at the traditionally black college. He noted that this caused some raised eyebrows, but overall found support for this stance. “Singleton, we think you’re crazy as hell,” he laughed, “but brother, we support you and glad you’re standing up for what you believe.” Six years into Obama’s presidency, he may be finding more support than he ever thought he might.

Democratic PartyWhile there is no dispute that the Republican Party has much work to do in order to gain support from of the African-American community, key data from the 2012 elections results do shed light on hopes that they can be more competitive in the future. President Obama won an astonishing 93% of the overall black vote against his opponent, Mitt Romney, but a closer analysis of the support the GOP standard-bearer received from young black males is enough to warrant the fears of Democratic Party leaders that their vote cannot be taken for granted. According to Pew Research exit polling, a full 19% of young black males between the ages of 18-29 cast their votes for Romney, while only 2% of black females in this age group went with the Republican.

This startling anomaly was one of the primary drivers in the White House’s unveiling of its “My Brothers Keeper” initiative, designed to help improve the opportunities of young black males in the national cities. Like many Democrat policies of the past few decades, however, it has largely been met with skepticism and yet another example of empty rhetoric designed to keep a long-time loyal constituency “in its place.”