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John F Kennedy III · Jun 30, 2014

I'm hearing Cantwell is banned and there will be armed checkpoints. Is this true?

pcosmar · Jun 30, 2014

John F Kennedy III said:
I'm hearing Cantwell is banned and there will be armed checkpoints. Is this true?

Had not heard,, but did a little searching..

specsaregood · Jun 30, 2014

John F Kennedy III said:
I'm hearing Cantwell is banned and there will be armed checkpoints. Is this true?

You mean next year?

Philhelm · Jun 30, 2014

Oh...I was hoping "Porcfest" meant something else.

Keith and stuff · Jun 30, 2014

John F Kennedy III said:
I'm hearing Cantwell is banned and there will be armed checkpoints. Is this true?

Cantwell was banned in person but was at PorcFest via the Internet. He seemed to have a great time at PorcFest, as did everyone else. As for the security at PorcFest; yes, there are 100s of armed people. After all, the is the largest outdoor pro-liberty gathering on Earth!

FSP-Rebel · Jun 30, 2014

Yeah, Cantwell is currently under bannishment for his statements that the FSP doesn't want to be apart of. That said, I believe CopBlock doesn't want ties with him either.

Keith and stuff · Jun 30, 2014

pcosmar said:
Had not heard,, but did a little searching..

Josie spoke at PorcFest and Larken Rose was on at least 2 panels, if not more. I cannot think of a single liberty person in the global liberty movement that was purposefully excluded from PorcFest. It was the most welcoming liberty event of 2014, by far!

pcosmar · Jun 30, 2014

Keith and stuff said:
Josie spoke at PorcFest and Larken Rose was on at least 2 panels, if not more. I cannot think of a single liberty of the global liberty movement that was purposefully excluded from PorcFest. It was the most welcoming liberty event of 2014, by far!

I read otherwise. Some guy named Cantwell is Banned and Unwelcome due to some controversial remarks.. The Same exact argument and statements have been repeated by many.

Seems it is a reality, and yet an unsettling subject.

Oh,, and there was talk of Armed Checkpoints,, to keep out undesirables? (but that was speculation)

Keith and stuff · Jun 30, 2014

pcosmar said:
I read otherwise. Some guy named Cantwell is Banned and Unwelcome due to some controversial remarks.. The Same exact argument and statements have been repeated by many.

Seems it is a reality, and yet an unsettling subject.

Oh,, and there was talk of Armed Checkpoints,, to keep out undesirables? (but that was speculation)

Cantwell spoke at PorcFest via the Internet. That is a fact. Cantwell lives in New Hampshire and loves it here. Sorry if someone disagrees with him.

As for 100s of armed people at PorcFest, that is reality. If you don't want people to be armed, you may try to kill them but my guess is that might not work out and anyways, I don't recommend it

Keith and stuff · Jun 30, 2014

FSP-Rebel said:
Yeah, Cantwell is currently under bannishment for his statements that the FSP doesn't want to be apart of. That said, I believe CopBlock doesn't want ties with him either.

Cantwell moved to New Hampshire and loves it. Both of the founders of CopBlock also live in New Hampshire and love it. Heck, even Josie moved to New Hampshire and loves it.

pcosmar · Jun 30, 2014

Keith and stuff said:
Cantwell spoke at PorcFest via the Internet. That is a fact. Cantwell lives in New Hampshire and loves it here. Sorry if someone disagrees with him.

As for 100s of armed people at PorcFest, that is reality. If you don't want people to be armed, you may try to kill them but my guess is that might not work out and anyways, I don't recommend it

Well someone had asked.. I was posting what I heard,, I am not there.

The idea that a "liberty event" would ban someone,,for comments is rather disconcerting.

I had not been following it,, perhaps it was eventually resolved..

edit.

http://aymfl.com/libertarian/fsp-cantwell

Dear Chris,

The FSP Board met last night to discuss your situation and what to do. Our decision is stated below, which includes our reasoning.

Whereas Chris Cantwell has made the following public statements, been offered the opportunity to retract, and has refused to do so: “It’s a terribly unpopular thing to say, but the answer, at some point, is to kill government agents,” and “any level of force necessary for anyone to stop any government agent from furthering said coercion [tax collection in the context of funding the salaries of all government employees] is morally justifiable…”

Whereas the FSP Board believes this view exceeds the right of self-defense

Whereas the Policy and Procedure for Removing Participants (passed 7/11/04) states:

Participants may be removed for promoting violence, racial hatred, or bigotry. Participants who are deemed detrimental to the accomplishment of the Free State Project’s goals may also be removed.

Therefore, according to the Policy and Procedure for Removing Participants, the FSP Board removes Chris Cantwell as a participant and declares him unwelcome to attend FSP-organized events.

In peace and liberty,

Jody

for the FSP Board

I have been looking for news that it was resolved,, but all I have found is folks talking about it.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Anarcho_Cap...est_sets_up_checkpoint_searches_premises_for/

Keith and stuff · Jun 30, 2014

pcosmar said:
Well someone had asked.. I was posting what I heard,, I am not there.

The idea that a "liberty event" would ban someone,,for comments is rather disconcerting.

I had not been following it,, perhaps it was eventually resolved..

It wasn't just several crazy comments. He physically assaulted a lady and drove drunk, including damaging private property.

tod evans · Jun 30, 2014

Keith and stuff said:
It wasn't just several crazy comments. He physically assaulted a lady and drove drunk, including damaging private property.

What EXACTLY did this entail?

Way too often things get blown so far out of proportion it's not funny and your wording leads me to believe this may be one of those instances...

pcosmar · Jun 30, 2014

Keith and stuff said:
It wasn't just several crazy comments. He physically assaulted a lady and drove drunk, including damaging private property.

And I heard that he damaged a trash can and paid $5 and settled it. and that was last year.

Keith and stuff · Jun 30, 2014

tod evans said:
What EXACTLY did this entail?

Way too often things get blown so far out of proportion it's not funny and your wording leads me to believe this may be one of those instances...

Perhaps it was. Either way. He attended PorcFest via the Internet and had a great time. Everyone else had a great time. Plus, he moved to NH and loves it here. Everyone is happy and healthy. God Bless!

tod evans · Jun 30, 2014

pcosmar said:
And I heard that he damaged a trash can and paid $5 and settled it. and that was last year.

Damaging private property=denting a garbage can..... :rolleyes:

Makes me wonder what constitutes "assault"?

pcosmar · Jun 30, 2014

Some people are really scared of the realities of the Second Amendment,, and it's purpose for existence.

It is hard to discuss the legitimate use of force even here.

tod evans · Jun 30, 2014

Keith and stuff said:
Perhaps it was. Either way. He attended PorcFest via the Internet and had a great time. Everyone else had a great time. Plus, he moved to NH and loves it here. Everyone is happy and healthy. God Bless!

Does this mean you don't know either?

pcosmar · Jun 30, 2014

They don't want to talk about it.

Acala · Jun 30, 2014

tod evans said:
Damaging private property=denting a garbage can.....

Makes me wonder what constitutes "assault"?

It was a really nice garbage can.

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