Poll: 53% Of Americans Don’t Believe In Man-Made Global Warming

[green73]

Poll: 53% Of Americans Don’t Believe In Man-Made Global Warming

President Obama is emphasizing global warming ahead of the November elections, but a new poll suggests he faces an uphill climb.

According to a Pew Research Center poll, 35 percent of Americans say there is not enough solid evidence to mankind is warming the Earth while another 18 percent says the world has warmed due to “natural patterns” and not human activity.

That’s a 53 percent majority against the president’s position.

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[PaulConventionWV]

That's it? I seriously would have thought it was higher than that. Global warming is dead and is now just being dragged through the mud by politicians with an obvious agenda.

 

[green73]

That's it? I seriously would have thought it was higher than that. Global warming is dead and is now just being dragged through the mud by politicians with an obvious agenda.

Yeah well, ~50% still believe in socialism...

 

[Anti-Neocon]

I wonder why random people answering their phone have a drastically different opinion from scientists.

 

[William Tell]

I wonder why random people answering their phone have a drastically different opinion from scientists.

Because they are not getting paid to spew BS. Almost all scientists are Government lapdogs. They love grant money, independent thinkers like Art Robinson are labeled kooks.

 

[Anti-Neocon]

Because they are not getting paid to spew BS. Almost all scientists are Government lapdogs. They love grant money, independent thinkers like Art Robinson are labeled kooks.

Most scientists aren't get paid to spew BS, and many who do are "skeptics".

To think that any sizable chunk of the human population actually looks at the topic of AGW from any kind of advanced analytical perspective is being foolish.

 

[Dr.3D]

Of course, then you have those who are gullible and will believe most anything the government tells them.

 

[William Tell]

Most scientists aren't get paid to spew BS, and many who do are "skeptics".

Really? who butters their bread? many universities take government grants. There are almost no real independent scientists anymore. Somebody has to pay for them sitting around doing experiments. Corporations are biased too, obviously.

 

[Anti-Neocon]

Really? who butters their bread? many universities take government grants. There are almost no real independent scientists anymore. Somebody has to pay for them sitting around doing experiments. Corporations are biased too, obviously.

"Sitting around doing experiments"...

And some people question whether or not the climate change denialist movement is anti-science.

 

[Petar]

"Sitting around doing experiments"...

And some people question whether or not the climate change denialist movement is anti-science.

The point is that you can get a lot of money for creating something that does not necessarily have to work in any real sense of the word.

 

[Occam's Banana]

I wonder why random people answering their phone have a drastically different opinion from scientists.

Perhaps it's because random phone people are becoming increasingly cynical & suspicious of the ever-mounting pile of shit that has been ceaselessly shovelled at them by politicians, bureaucrats, "journalists" and "activists" (and even some "scientists") - regarding any of a vast range of subjects (war, the economy, "climate change," IRS emails, etc. ad nauseum).

Does anyone seriously expect public opinion to align with that of some vaguely specified group such as "scientists" merely because agenda-mongers (like Obama) wag their fingers and shout, "Science, bitchez!" ... ?

 

[Anti Federalist]

"Sitting around doing experiments"...

And some people question whether or not the climate change denialist movement is anti-science.

Some of us do not wish to be ruled over by a technocratic elite, that have gotten some things wrong in a spectacular manner in the past.

 

[Anti-Neocon]

But it is exactly that - "science bitchez!"

The countless things the government does to lose our trust doesn't mean we should disregard science, nor see it as a victory when people do.

Science is perhaps the only field with a functioning BS-O-meter, where prospective publications go through rigorous peer-review processes before they are even taken seriously. "Science, bitchez" is the quest for truth, and you can help improve it by pointing out where climate scientists are wrong. I've read through numerous publications and there is no doubt in my mind that AGW is real, and I don't know how anyone who actually acquaints themselves with the topic can think otherwise.

Now if only the fields of history and politics were driven by a quest for truth...

 

[Crashland]

Really? who butters their bread? many universities take government grants. There are almost no real independent scientists anymore. Somebody has to pay for them sitting around doing experiments. Corporations are biased too, obviously.

Do you know what really gets you paid the big bucks when you're a scientist? Proving other scientists wrong. Devising a well-grounded theory that successfully stands up to the rigorous peer-criticism and yet flies in the face of a previously held consensus. If somebody made a breakthrough that can actually stand up under its own weight, that scientist would be a hero.

So many people in the U.S. have these huge convictions about climate change yet have very little or no knowledge of how scientists are actually arriving at the conclusions they arrive at. These same people don't seem to have a problem with other scientific models like regarding how the earth's tectonic plates move. But no definitely not humans' effect on the environment. [Insert fallacious argument from incredulity here. But humans are so small! And, the Bible says only God controls the weather! 98% of scientists are all corrupt falsifying results for the money!]

 

[Anti-Neocon]

Some of us do not wish to be ruled over by a technocratic elite, that have gotten some things wrong in a spectacular manner in the past.

That's all fine, and I am not suggesting that you should desire being ruled over by these technocrats. But please don't equate science with politics. Agenda-driven science simply doesn't get far because scientific research is judged by its truthfulness. There's always people masquerading as scientists too who really don't follow scientific protocol whatsoever, but they are quacks and rejects from the scientific community. IF you want to form an opinion on AGW, READ scientific literature. Don't look at who is quoting said literature. Learn about the topic and assess it on its own merit. And whatever you do, don't quote a quack's interpretation of said literature.

And from what I've seen, there really is only serious scientific debate to be had on the level of AGW, not on whether or not it's happening. And thus in the political world, the debate should focus on what should be done in response to said AGW, not whether or not it's happening. It's definitely happening!

 

[Anti-Neocon]

Do you know what really gets you paid the big bucks when you're a scientist?

I agree with most of your points, but one thing:

I think you underestimate how lucrative it is to peddle BS. But of course, all BS peddling has to be done outside of the scientific arena, because if it was attempted within, it would be the equivalent of jumping straight into a pit of lions, as other scientists will tear up pseudoscience. It is chewed up and spit out straight into the countless trash heaps of garbage never published.

If you REALLY want big bucks as a "climate scientist", you can go on Koch-funded disinformation tours and tout your credentials while filling in peoples' knowledge gaps with complete fabrications.

But of course, in that case, you are not being a scientist. You are being a politician.

 

[Petar]

I agree with most of your points, but one thing:

I think you underestimate how lucrative it is to peddle BS. But of course, all BS peddling has to be done outside of the scientific arena, because if it was attempted within, it would be the equivalent of jumping straight into a pit of lions, as other scientists will tear up pseudoscience. It is chewed up and spit out straight into the countless trash heaps of garbage never published.

If you REALLY want big bucks as a "climate scientist", you can go on Koch-funded disinformation tours and tout your credentials while filling in peoples' knowledge gaps with complete fabrications.

But of course, in that case, you are not being a scientist. You are being a politician.

Yeah, except that it isn't...

 

[Anti-Neocon]

Yeah, except that it isn't...

Oh yeah? Examples please!

You may be God and able to declare things true or false, but first of all you'll have to prove your divinity.

 

[oyarde]

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Well , nobody polled me , put my entire tribe down as a no . Fuck them . Lol

 

[mad cow]

Here is all a scientist or layman who believes in Anthropogenic Global Warming has to say to get my complete support.

I believe in AGW,good!It was getting a little nippy around here!

I believe in AGW,How about them San Diego Padres?

I believe in AGW,the oceans are rising about an inch a century!Saunter,Saunter for your lives!

I believe in AGW,but of course a free people have every right to expel as much CO2 as they wish,even if it approaches the ridiculous amounts that B.H.Obama and Al Gore put into the atmosphere every year.

And so on.People who don't believe in that horsecrap aren't telling you to pay more taxes,pay more for your electricity,subsidize solar power and electric cars,pay for 'carbon credits' and on and on and on,now are they?