Planning on being a state delegate? Do you know Robert's Rules of Order yet?

[devil21]

Are you a delegate or planning on being a delegate to your state's convention? If so, you should (replaced: MUST) study and learn Robert's Rules of Order. This is the procedure by which many state delegate selection conventions are run. It is called "parlimentary procedure" and imho is a must-know for all delegates.


Here's the Wiki entry with basic information to get you started:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert's_Rules_of_Order


You can purchase the full reference book and/or the quick reference book detailing the newest 11th edition Rules here:

http://robertsrules.com/inbrief.html


Here is an online version of the older 4th version, much of which is still in use.
http://www.rulesonline.com/index.html


Knowing Robert's Rules was how the Nevada delegates were able to capture the convention in Ron Paul's favor....until the state GOP shut the convention down.

 

[Omnica]

"Knowing Robert's Rules was how the Nevada delegates were able to capture the convention in Ron Paul's favor....until the state GOP shut the convention down."

What reason did they give for doing so? What will stop them from doing this sort of thing in every state this time in 2012??

 

[Omnica]

"Robert's Rules of Order is the short title of a book containing rules of order intended to be adopted as a parliamentary authority for use by a deliberative assembly written by Brig. Gen. Henry Martyn Robert.
Currently in its eleventh edition and published under the name Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised (and often referred to using the initialism RONR )."

 

[Unknown.User]

Are you a delegate or planning on being a delegate to your state's convention? If so, you MUST study and learn Robert's Rules of Order. This is the procedure by which many state delegate selection conventions are run. It is called "parlimentary procedure" and is a must-know for all delegates.


Here's the Wiki entry with basic information to get you started:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert's_Rules_of_Order


You can purchase the full reference book and/or the quick reference book detailing the newest 11th edition Rules here:

http://robertsrules.com/inbrief.html


Here is an online version of the older 4th version, much of which is still in use.
http://www.rulesonline.com/index.html


Knowing Robert's Rules was how the Nevada delegates were able to capture the convention in Ron Paul's favor....until the state GOP shut the convention down.

I agree that having read Robert's Rules of Order is a useful thing to do at some point in life. However do not discourage supporters from becoming delegates by stating that they MUST read it. That is not true. Reading it will help you understand the process behind the scenes more clearly. But it is enough to sit there until it is your time to give you delegate speech, then wait for people to vote for you.

Do not be intimidated if you have not read Robert's Rules of Order. You will catch on as the process happens if there is any weird quirks in the process. Just focus on preparing and rehearsing your delegate speech so that you are confident and self-assertive when the time comes.

 

[devil21]

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True enough but Im thinking more along the lines that if even a few people take the time in each state to actually read it and understand the process, itll make a huge difference. Im not naive enough to think everyone will read it nor will anyone that hasn't read it choose to not be a delegate because of it. Gotta be realistic at least and if this thread gets only a handful of delegates to read it then it's a success to me. But I still think everyone should know it and have a small reference card.

Absolutely, no one should feel discouraged for not reading it! But it sure isn't going to hurt if they do.

 

[devil21]

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[sratiug]

"Knowing Robert's Rules was how the Nevada delegates were able to capture the convention in Ron Paul's favor....until the state GOP shut the convention down."

What reason did they give for doing so? What will stop them from doing this sort of thing in every state this time in 2012??

They was a losin'.

 

[kylejack]

Not that it matters. In Nevada they dodged a Ron Paul win by throwing Robert's Rules of Order in the trash.

 

[devil21]

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[devil21]

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[gerryb]

Not that it matters. In Nevada they dodged a Ron Paul win by throwing Robert's Rules of Order in the trash.

If they do that this time, there will be lawsuits and it will be bloody.

We need to have a big enough presence in EVERY state at every precinct to become "the establishment" for 2014 and 2016...

 

[happyphilter]

How do the rules of order help exactly? It's new to me. Thanks.

 

[devil21]

How do the rules of order help exactly? It's new to me. Thanks.

Check the links! It's the process under which delegate selection meetings are conducted to maintain order. It's also how the establishment tries to railroad their agenda through. You can purchase the actual Rules or cliff notes versions from Amazon. There's an older version available online in my OP.

 

[mmadness]

Not that it matters. In Nevada they dodged a Ron Paul win by throwing Robert's Rules of Order in the trash.

As far as I recall, they were also able to shut down the convention because the remaining delegates did not have quorum. If we make sure we have the numbers then it reduces the chances that they can do this.

 

[The Binghamton Patriot]

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[PolicyReader]

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[devil21]

This thread here has YT videos and a nice pdf cheatsheet!

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?360517-Roberts-Rules-of-Order-Training-Video

 

[devil21]

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[rcandrews]

A Professional Parliamentarian might be the answer but

I think we need to know for a FACT exactly how Nevada shut things down and under what ruling.


"to shut down the convention because the remaining delegates did not have quorum. If we make sure we have the numbers then it reduces the chances that they can do this. " can we validate this?

Knowing Robert’s Rules is crucial for sure but if Nevada was able to shut the convention down what is to stop any state from doing such a thing and getting away with it?

We need someone who has contact with the Nevada delegates for Ron Paul or Ron Paul’s camp directly to find out how to stop them from shutting the convention down.

Hiring a professional parliamentarian might be the answer but that only begs the question where do we find one that supports Ron Paul and how do we vet that person?

Or am I missing something? Or over thinking it?

 

[devil21]

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The conventions are going to come down to playing the Rules better than the party elite. Even a basic understanding is better than NONE if you're attending conventions.