Peak Oil

[rational thinker]

Real or not? Please reply only if you have evidence to back up any claims. Thanks.

 

[Alex Libman]

I used to be a greenie (when I was young and stupid), and I can tell with absolute certainty that it's a fraud, same as "global warming", "global dimming", etc. Yes, there is uncertainty in the energy market, but much of that is caused by government interventionism and the greenies themselves. If it wasn't for socialism throughout the 20th century, we'd all be flying 700 MPH in our own safe nuclear-powered RV's by now!

E does equal M * C squared, and there's a whole lot of M out there in our vast universe... At least until the socialists come to power. Then they announce the sun won't rise tomorrow unless their gods are worshiped with absolute obedience...

 

[Truth Warrior]

The whole frickin' universe IS Energy!

 

[LiveFree79]

I don't believe in peak oil. But I do believe that even if oil is abiotic and replenished like trees in a forest at the rate we are going we'll end up running short of it. Look at what human beings have done to the rain forests. Look at how over fished our oceans are. This has nothing to do with "greenies" or socialist this or socialist that. It's scientific fact. The polar ice caps are melting for whatever reason you want to attribute it to....man made or not. The world is becoming more and more polluted. I mean fuck just study how denatured soil is nowadays due to monoculture farming practices. But don't worry Monsanto, technology, and private industry will come save the day. LOL.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I'm in the offshore oil drilling business.

2/3 of the earth's surface is water and seas and we have barely started exploration there.

200 miles from the shoreline is about the max right now.

The days of cheap oil, however, flowing freely out of the ground from a quick and easy well drilling operation, are probably over.

 

[Dieseler]

If peak oil was real we would all be in work camps already at the barrel of a gun.
The elite would not let us continue to consume at the rate we do right now with no decrease in sight.
Doesn't make sense to me.

Second thought...Maybe thats the plan.


Just kidding.
Or am I?

 

[Conza88]

Henry A. Kissinger, Rockefeller's well-compensated, multi-purpose minion and long-time member of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) said: "Control the oil and you can control entire Continents. Control food and you control people."

 

[Matt Collins]

This book dispells Peak Oil Theory and is an EXCELLENT read!!!
I HIGHLY recommend it!

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Gold-St...d_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1212527846&sr=8-2



Experts estimate that Americans consume more than 25 percent of the world's oil but have control over less than 3 percent of its proven oil supply. This unbalanced pattern of consumption makes it possible for foreign governments, corrupt political leaders, terrorist organizations, and oil conglomerates to hold the economy and the citizens of the United States in a virtual stranglehold. There is no greater proof of this than the direct relationship between skyrocketing gas prices and the explosion of wealth among those who control the world's supply of oil.

In Black Gold Stranglehold, Jerome Corsi and Craig Smith expose the fraudulent science that has made America so vulnerable: the belief that oil is a fossil fuel and that it is a finite resource. This book reveals the conclusions reached by Dr. Thomas Gold, a professor at Cornell University, in his seminal book The Deep Hot Biosphere: The Myth of Fossil Fuels (Copernicus Books, 1998) and accepted by many in the scientific community that oil is not a product of fossils and prehistoric forests but rather the bio-product of a continuing biochemical reaction below the earth's surface that is brought to attainable depths by the centrifugal forces of the earth's rotation.
Jerome Corsi explores the international and domestic politics of oil production and consumption, including the wealth and power of major oil conglomerates, the manipulation of world economies by oil-producing nations and rogue terrorist regimes, and the shortsightedness of those who endorse expensive conservation efforts while rejecting the use of the oil reserves currently controlled by the U.S. government.


As an expert in tangible assets, Craig Smith provides an understanding of the history of America's dangerous dissociation of the dollar with precious—and truly scarce—metals such as gold and the devastation that would be inflicted on the U.S. economy if Middle Eastern countries are able to follow through with current plans to make the euro the standard currency for oil instead of U.S. dollars.
Black Gold Stranglehold is a thoughtful work that is certain to dramatically change the debate on oil consumption, oil dependence, and oil availability.


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[pinkmandy]

The whole frickin' universe IS Energy!

+ Infinity.

 

[LibertyOfOne]

The whole frickin' universe IS Energy!

Which is absolutely useless if you can't harness it.

 

[LibertyOfOne]

If peak oil was real we would all be in work camps already at the barrel of a gun.
The elite would not let us continue to consume at the rate we do right now with no decrease in sight.
Doesn't make sense to me.

Second thought...Maybe thats the plan.


Just kidding.
Or am I?

Maybe that is evidence that there is no super evil secret ruling elite. You know there does not need to be some grand order to everything. Some things are best left to the explanation that no one knows what the fuck is going to happen, and the "order" we have now is structured out from chaos.

 

[Truth Warrior]

Maybe that is evidence that there is no super evil secret ruling elite. You know there does not need to be some grand order to everything. Some things are best left to the explanation that no one knows what the fuck is going to happen, and the "order" we have now is structured out from chaos.

ILLUMINATI ( TPTB ) MOTTO: "Ordo ab chao"

PROBLEM -> REACTION -> SOLUTION

 

[pcosmar]

In the late 60s and early 70s I remember that they were talking about it in school. They said we would run out before the end of the 80s at (then) current use. Then came the Gas crunch and and they said that was proof.
And yet military use has increased, supply has increased, Cars have gotten more efficient (on the whole), and there is still oil in places that we can not drill.
At this point in life (after being lied to often) I call bullshit.

 

[LibertyOfOne]

This book dispells Peak Oil Theory and is an EXCELLENT read!!!
I HIGHLY recommend it!

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Gold-St...d_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1212527846&sr=8-2



Experts estimate that Americans consume more than 25 percent of the world's oil but have control over less than 3 percent of its proven oil supply. This unbalanced pattern of consumption makes it possible for foreign governments, corrupt political leaders, terrorist organizations, and oil conglomerates to hold the economy and the citizens of the United States in a virtual stranglehold. There is no greater proof of this than the direct relationship between skyrocketing gas prices and the explosion of wealth among those who control the world's supply of oil.

In Black Gold Stranglehold, Jerome Corsi and Craig Smith expose the fraudulent science that has made America so vulnerable: the belief that oil is a fossil fuel and that it is a finite resource. This book reveals the conclusions reached by Dr. Thomas Gold, a professor at Cornell University, in his seminal book The Deep Hot Biosphere: The Myth of Fossil Fuels (Copernicus Books, 1998) and accepted by many in the scientific community that oil is not a product of fossils and prehistoric forests but rather the bio-product of a continuing biochemical reaction below the earth's surface that is brought to attainable depths by the centrifugal forces of the earth's rotation.
Jerome Corsi explores the international and domestic politics of oil production and consumption, including the wealth and power of major oil conglomerates, the manipulation of world economies by oil-producing nations and rogue terrorist regimes, and the shortsightedness of those who endorse expensive conservation efforts while rejecting the use of the oil reserves currently controlled by the U.S. government.


As an expert in tangible assets, Craig Smith provides an understanding of the history of America's dangerous dissociation of the dollar with precious—and truly scarce—metals such as gold and the devastation that would be inflicted on the U.S. economy if Middle Eastern countries are able to follow through with current plans to make the euro the standard currency for oil instead of U.S. dollars.
Black Gold Stranglehold is a thoughtful work that is certain to dramatically change the debate on oil consumption, oil dependence, and oil availability.


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Given the recent creation in the lab of a bacteria that can shit oil it could be a totally natural process by which microorganisms produce the stuff. As for coal well that is the product of long dead super ferns. But the thing you have to remember is that with the current move towards globalization countries have become interdependent. The Saudis just now upped their production a half a million barrels a day. I wonder how they would fair without American military protection? You see the way things are you can't go it alone anymore. The way the system has naturally come about and pushed towards is so that countries have to rely on each other as a built in incentive against war. Of course American interventionism has only hurt progress in this regard by isolating certain countries.

 

[hypnagogue]

We will run out of oil. How anyone could suggest that there is an infinite supply of oil, I do not know. When this will happen is left up to speculation.

 

[Truth Warrior]

Anyone want to buy a Hummer or other "guzzler" SUV cheap?

Just wait a couple of years.

 

[LibertyOfOne]

In the late 60s and early 70s I remember that they were talking about it in school. They said we would run out before the end of the 80s at (then) current use. Then came the Gas crunch and and they said that was proof.
And yet military use has increased, supply has increased, Cars have gotten more efficient (on the whole), and there is still oil in places that we can not drill.
At this point in life (after being lied to often) I call bullshit.

They were right. The fields that were known in America peaked. The only reason why the prices dropped because America became hooked on the outside world for most of it's oil. See when peak production hits there still will be oil flowing for a long time to come. It's just that you will never be able to pull as much oil out as you did before. After the peak there is an exponential drop in production followed by a slow asymptotic drop in production. That prediction was for the peak production of all the know American oil fields at the time. Now there is a different prediction of when oil will peak globally.

 

[pcosmar]

Anyone want to buy a Hummer or other "guzzler" SUV cheap?

Just wait a couple of years.

You can convert it to propane/LP for a couple grand. From there Hydrogen is only an adjustment.
I need 4WD where I live, and am considering the conversion.
The price of LP has not been increasing at the same rate as gas.

 

[Matt Collins]

Given the recent creation in the lab of a bacteria that can shit oil it could be a totally natural process by which microorganisms produce the stuff.

Check out this article Discover Magazine did about a company that "can turn anything into oil":

http://discovermagazine.com/2006/apr/anything-oil

 

[Truth Warrior]

Given the recent creation in the lab of a bacteria that can shit oil it could be a totally natural process by which microorganisms produce the stuff. As for coal well that is the product of long dead super ferns. But the thing you have to remember is that with the current move towards globalization countries have become interdependent. The Saudis just now upped their production a half a million barrels a day. I wonder how they would fair without American military protection? You see the way things are you can't go it alone anymore. The way the system has naturally come about and pushed towards is so that countries have to rely on each other as a built in incentive against war. Of course American interventionism has only hurt progress in this regard by isolating certain countries.

Perhaps the "system" is/was "engineered" to come out this way.