On the subject of natural rights

[Lamp]

Can autistic and or disabled people have natural rights and how do natural rights work per se?

 

[CaptUSA]

Can autistic people have natural rights and how do natural rights work per se?

Well, seeing that natural rights are negative rights, then absolutely. They have the right to be left alone just like anyone else.

How do they work? Simple. Don't steal my labor or its fruits and don't force me to do something against my will. The only obligation you have to me is to do me no harm. And I, you.

 

[Lamp]

And why does that not apply to cows and or other meat animals? (I'm only asking this because I'm really pissed off about the cow police in my country killing people for eating beef)

 

[CaptUSA]

And why does that not apply to cows and or other meat animals? (I'm only asking this because I'm really pissed off about the cow police in my country killing people for eating beef)

Really? Are you comparing people with autism to "meat animals"???

At the risk of feeding a troll, I'd say that perhaps natural rights exist among cows... Who knows? I'm not a cow. But somehow I'd doubt that they'd extend that courtesy to the non-bovine sub-family.

 

[Lamp]

Some militant vegetarian rightwinger guy asked me that question angrily when I said that eating beef was a victimless act and compared it to eating autistic people. I just wanted a legitimate answer as to where natural rights arise from and who they can apply to.

example:

"If that is what you believe in, you're pretty much in violation of it right now. If you think killing of an animal is morally right, well then, define moral !"

"As a matter of fact here in *****, we have got far more vegetarian dishes that are tastier than any of your western, middle-eastern etc etc, non-veg recipies. If you are an Indian, and you are looking for taste, you don't need to kill any sort of animal."​

 

[Natural Citizen]

..how do natural rights work per se?

Well. Natural rights are rights that exist prior to the creation of a government. These are generally the rights to life, liberty, and property. And, really, the only thing that should be illegal are things that involve the initiation of force. In fact, the only true role of government (in America) is to defend Individual Liberty.

As a rule of thumb, people should be free to make rules for themselves so long as others aren't forced to do the same.

Of course, you could get into a theological discussion. But you'd really just go around in a big circle.

 

[Working Poor]

Living well is the best revenge.

 

[tod evans]

And why does that not apply to cows and or other meat animals? (I'm only asking this because I'm really pissed off about the cow police in my country killing people for eating beef)

What kind of idiot would think, even for a moment, that animals and humans should hold equal status?

If we're going to explore idiocy why not include robotic sex-toys in your quest to establish 'rights'?

What about plankton?

Serpents, marsupials or arachnids?

Good-fucking-grief!

 

[otherone]

What kind of idiot would think, even for a moment, that animals and humans should hold equal status?

If we're going to explore idiocy why not include robotic sex-toys in your quest to establish 'rights'?

What about plankton?

Serpents, marsupials or arachnids?

Good-$#@!ing-grief!

or vegetables for that matter.
life eats life. there is no way around it.

 

[tod evans]

or vegetables for that matter.
life eats life. there is no way around it.

Could be the OP is actually talking about 'protected status' such as what the bald eagle enjoys here but that's not what he typed...

 

[otherone]

Could be the OP is actually talking about 'protected status' such as what the bald eagle enjoys here but that's not what he typed...

It's an important discussion.
Rights aren't "assigned", whether for the autistic, cows, or eagles.

 

[P3ter_Griffin]

And why does that not apply to cows and or other meat animals? (I'm only asking this because I'm really pissed off about the cow police in my country killing people for eating beef)

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Genesis 1:26