Obama in Newtown: ‘We can’t tolerate this anymore’

[truelies]

Yeah where has this turd been for the four years of his illegal presidency as Chicago has a 'newtown' equivalent every other weekend. Of course his preferred 'solution'- firearm confiscation has not worked for shit there. Has it.

 

[pacelli]

Good, don't tolerate gun free zones. Arm the teachers!

 

[A. Havnes]

The stress being laid on "mental health" gives me as much pause as that laid upon "guns".

Same here. I tend to lean towards the "anti-psychiatry" camp. Namely, I don't necessarily believe that behavioral problems have a biological basis. The western world, barring Finland, has some of the worst psychiatric practices ever, and what is considered to be a disorder (disorders come into existence after the APA votes on whether a behavior should be labeled as a disease or not) has gotten to the point where every single person on the planet can be considered mentally ill.

I'm not trying to make the claim that everyone out there is essentially a good soul that, for whatever reason, has gone astray; but I'm completely against the idea that we can profile who is violent and who isn't. I'm also against the idea that medication can fix everything. These things were designed to be a chemical lobotomy, no one knows really how they work, but it has been documented that these chemicals affect more than just the brain: they affect every organ in the body. Hence, medications such as Zyprexa and Risperdol cause severe weight gain and insulin resistance.

Also, medications very seldom can be used pre-emptively anyway. Back in the early nineties, there was one psychiatrist who decided to medicate toddlers who displayed behaviors that might lead to an ADHD diagnosis later in life. The idea was to see if medicating them at such a young age would prevent this. I have personal experience here, since my younger brother was at this age at this time and was medicated.

The pattern that developed was that the kids who were pre-emptively medicated wound up really messed up. They displayed paranoia, mood swings that could sometimes turn violent, and usually wound up being diagnosed as bipolar before even reaching puberty. Granted, no one took them off of their meds to see if these behaviors could be caused by them, but instead figured that the meds were just revealing disorders that would have otherwise been diagnosed later.

Naturally, they were then placed on antipsychotics, which are easily some of the most dangerous 'medications' in the industry. What you wind up doing to the brain is damaging it. You have to admire the brain's plasticity! When the receptors for chemicals in the brain realize that they aren't receiving their usual amount, they increase in size and sensitivity in order to feel like they're getting the same amount that they did before the meds blocked them. At this point, the bad behaviors tend to worsen and so more drugs are administered to stop this and the cycle repeats. This is why brain scans show that people on medication for psychiatric illness have such weird-looking brains. It's not the illness, it's the effect the medications have on the brain. In a developing brain, this is completely unacceptable.

As for my brother, he went through this same cycle. In his teenage years he was barely functional. He's off all his meds now and living quite well. He'll never be normal after all his brain has gone through, but he's a pleasant human being. No more violent tantrums, no more lethargy. I would hate to see psychiatry use this tragedy as an excuse to put more people through this. It's a violation of human rights, and instead of protecting children - our future - they're ensuring a nation of drugged-up zombies.

 

[XNavyNuke]

The stress being laid on "mental health" gives me as much pause as that laid upon "guns".

We can become a world leader with the first ever National Psychological Profile program.

.....sigh.

XNN

 

[Wolfgang Bohringer]

LOL

Hey Hey Barak Hussein

How many kids did you kill again?

U.S. Army Starts Targeting Children

 

[Lucille]

Am I the only one that found this entire event extremely tacky and in very poor taste?

Yup. Politicizing a tragedy is disgusting.

That man is reprehensible. I can't believe he would politicize at a memorial service for 20 dead little kids. If it was one of my kids, I would have walked out. He should have been booed off the stage.

The press is just as bad. What was there, about an hour (of misinformation) before they all started in on gun-grabbing?

 

[CaptUSA]

What was there, about an hour (of misinformation) before they all started in on gun-grabbing?

You have to understand, these types of tragedies just confirm in everyone's mind the beliefs they had already held.

If you think there should be fewer guns - now you feel justified. Ask for more legislation.
If you think the problem is God was removed from schools - now you feel justified. Ask for more legislation.
If you think it's a mental health problem - now you feel justified - ask for more legislation for mental health screenings.
If you think there should be more guns to deter offenders - now you feel justified. Ask to repeal legislation. (or, like they're doing in my county, ask for armed guards at elementary schools....Grrr...)

Now, if you feel like bad shit happens sometimes and people shouldn't freak out about it because it's so incredibly rare, all these other people who are using this tragedy to justify their own beliefs think you are insensitive and naive. You know, because more force always fixes problems.

 

[Wolfgang Bohringer]

Feel free to use these chants in the repressed speech zones when Obama next visits your town. Here's one based on Barak's real dad:

Hey Hey Barak Frank Davis

If you murder more kids, do you think it will save us?

Bill Frederick - Hey, Hey, LBJ

 

[Lucille]

You have to understand, these types of tragedies just confirm in everyone's mind the beliefs they had already held.

If you think there should be fewer guns - now you feel justified. Ask for more legislation.
If you think the problem is God was removed from schools - now you feel justified. Ask for more legislation.
If you think it's a mental health problem - now you feel justified - ask for more legislation for mental health screenings.
If you think there should be more guns to deter offenders - now you feel justified. Ask to repeal legislation. (or, like they're doing in my county, ask for armed guards at elementary schools....Grrr...)

Now, if you feel like bad shit happens sometimes and people shouldn't freak out about it because it's so incredibly rare, all these other people who are using this tragedy to justify their own beliefs think you are insensitive and naive. You know, because more force always fixes problems.

It's a mixed-up, crazy Orwellian world. I am disgusted and appalled.

At Sandy Hook Memorial, Obama Showcases the Magical Thinking of Gun Controllers
http://reason.com/blog/2012/12/17/at-sandy-hook-memorial-obama-showcases-t#fold

Finally, a president who has the guts to come out against the murder of children. Not only that, but he is prepared to confront those who, for murky but clearly frivolous reasons, tolerate violence, oppose tragedy prevention, and shrink from saving innocent lives. Because "politics" cannot be allowed to obstruct the solutions that every decent, right-thinking person favors.

 

[Lucille]

The Sickening Presidency
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/128702.html

How awful to watch Obama take the focus off the slain children and their families, and direct it on to himself, the State, and the unceasing hunger for more power. He tries to play a religious role--the State hates and envies God--and calls the dead "our children," to diminish the place of their parents. The State has long sought to abolish the role of parents, of course, and substitute its judges, cops, teachers, and social workers.

Then back to Washington, and time to sign more death warrants for Muslims, including children.

 

[Lucille]

Denninger: Mayor Bloomberg...like Obama, is dancing in the blood of children.

 

[libertygrl]

Am I the only one who sees the potential for this to have been a Laughner-esque, perpetrated-by-a-victim-of-mind-control false flag attack?

Would the desire of the NWO, via the UN as laid out in the Small Arms Ban Treaty, combined with the power and influence vested in said moneyed men, combined with the necessity of removing the Second Amendment as the final bar to be overcome in removing utterly our Constitution, provide adequate motive to slay six and seven year olds in their schoolrooms?

Am I alone?

No you are not alone, although I am not 100% sure yet. If there was eyewitness accounts of a second person with him that law enforcement and the media ignores, then I will be more suspicious.

I am also speculating about the real reasons behind the widespread dispensing of such strong psychotropic drugs on children over the past several years. Besides making billions for the phramacutical industrial complex, is it also to ensure there is a continuing supply of these kids to choose from? Usually these attackers are young white males, no? I think the combination of these drugs along with the advancement of realism in violent video games, is part of the recipe to create these mind altering assassins.

 

[Lucille]

God Damn You, America, and Your White, Privileged Grief
http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.ca/2012/12/god-damn-you-america-and-your-white.html

We've had Cool Obama, and No Drama Obama. Now we have Weeping Obama. Does Weeping Obama "meet privately" with the families of those he has ordered murdered in Pakistan, or Somalia, or Yemen? Does he even acknowledge those murders -- murders that he himself ordered? Does the "nation reel" in response to these regular, systematic murders of innocent human beings -- many of them children? Does the "nation reel" in response to the Obama administration's repeated public announcements of its Kill List and its Murder Program, a program which intentionally, repeatedly murders innocent people? Does America react with horror to the fact that Obama and his administration claim the "right" to murder anyone they want, anywhere in the world, for any reason they choose or invent out of nothing?
[...]
When I first heard of the tragedy in Newtown, my reaction was certainly one of horror. But it was not different in nature or intensity from my reaction to all the needless murders committed by the United States government in recent years.

And my reaction quickly shifted from horror at the murders in Newtown to a sickened disgust at the purposes for which the general public reaction was immediately utilized.
[...]
Now I want to draw your attention to several other issues that will never be mentioned during the current exercise in national mourning. I again emphasize that I exclude from this analysis those persons and families directly affected by these events. My concern here is the national immersion in this story. This enthusiasm, and there is no other word to describe it, for demonstrating how deeply one is affected, how vast is one's grief, how completely shattered everyone is by these deaths -- everyone, that is, who is supposedly "decent" and "caring," and who is grief-stricken and shattered by these deaths but not by many thousands of other deaths -- is a symptom of a culture that is profoundly disturbed.
[...]
The "narrowly delimited evil" in the current story is, obviously, the murders in Connecticut. Because the majority of the victims were very young children, we have been repeatedly told by everyone how especially awful these murders are. The victims were those who are unquestionably innocent, and who are the most defenseless among us. Everyone has gone on to assert how desperately concerned we all are to protect "our" children, and to always, always keep them safe from harm.

This is a fantastic lie, and a lie that is truly spectacular in its scope. [...]

And that makes it the perfect tragedy for the Age of Obama, and the perfect opportunity for Weeping Obama to make his appearance. Never mind those whom Obama orders to be murdered; don't give a thought to the children abused, humiliated and tormented in ways that will scar them for the rest of their lives; ignore the families destroyed by Obama's zealous pursuit of the monstrous War on Drugs. None of those victims are people like us, they're not human beings who actually matter. Who gives a damn what happens to them? These are among the hideous effects of the unrelentingly cruel and brutal reality America entered when it elected its first black president, a man who perfectly embodies the white authoritarian-corporatist-militarist State, and who ran as a white man. You elected -- and reelected -- a white man who is also a vicious killer. What did you expect?

Now that I've explained some of my reasons -- and there are many more, but these will do for the moment -- I come back to where I began. So I will say it again: God damn you, America.

I've seen some great pieces today on the hypocrisy. Maybe they need their own thread.

 

[Lucille]

It Depends Upon Whose Children Are Murdered
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/128745.html

 

[pochy1776]

wtf is this

link

them Chinese sure are innovators are they not

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As I was tiptoeing through the tulips over at NBC News' site - home of credible, honest political reporting - I found this:

"Malloy declined to answer whether any documented evidence had been uncovered that Lanza might have been mentally disturbed. At Western Connecticut State University in Danbury, where he enrolled at about 16 in 2008, there was never any indication of trouble, the university said in a statement Sunday.
Lanza took six classes — including website production, data modeling, Philosophy 101 and ethical theory — and compiled a solid 3.26 grade-point average."

I seem to recall initial reports indicating that the shooter was mentally ill...autistic..."Personality Disorder"...the shooter was a good student, having gone off to university at age sixteen.

Once again, Dear Leader is concerned more with optics, and exploitation of the popular reaction to the news. History will determine that it would have been wise for the Obama to confine his foolishness and keep it off the stage. Or I'm completely wrong. He was elected by a majority you know

If he did have autism and a personality disorder, and he gets to go to western connecticut state, I am fucking jealous. i have aspergers and the high school is always giving me shit for no reason. It's like Kafka in there. Fucking media.......

 

[Lucille]

Will Grigg: Sympathy from the Devil

"They had their entire lives ahead of them – birthdays, graduations, weddings, kids of their own," intoned the murderer of 16-year-old Abdulrahman al-Awlaki as he began the liturgy of official mourning for the victims of the Newtown massacre.

Every time children die in an outbreak of violence, "I react not as a president, but as anybody else would as a parent," continued the head of a regime that will not explain to Nasser al-Awlaki why his son Anwar and grandson Abdulrahman – both of the U.S. citizens – were murdered by presidential decree.

"We’ve endured too many of these tragedies in the past few years," insisted the official who has presided over dozens of lethal drone attacks in Pakistan and other countries with whom the U.S. is not formally at war.

Obama wiped away a non-existent tear as he pronounced the familiar, facile phrases of selective sympathy. After ordering that U.S. flags be flown at half-mast for a week, Obama said that he and his wife would hug their children a little closer tonight as he empathizes with the parents whose children were murdered in Newtown.

It’s doubtful that he was moved to similar thoughts of vicarious bereavement as he contemplated the parents in Pakistan, Yemen, and Afghanistan who have been left childless because of his actions.