New ammo type simply DEVASTATING

[Intoxiklown]

http://thelibertydigest.com/2014/01/24/the-new-ammunition-that-has-gun-owners-drooling/

 

[Tod]

Looks intriguing.

 

[Intoxiklown]

LOL

Wife is already looking online to order a case of the 9mm. And we are looking into a case of .357 and .45ACP


I sooooo bad want some of these.

 

[Intoxiklown]

As of now, the company is only releasing specifications for their 9mm round and they go a lil’ something like this:
* 16″ Penetration
* Up to 6″ diameter spread
* 96 gr projectile
* 2″ grouping at 25 yrds
* 1265 FPS / 490 Muzzle Energy
* 9 Separate Wound Channels
* Precision Machined
* Solid Copper / Lead Free
* Defeats all known barriers such as sheet metal, sheet rock, windshields, plywood, heavy winter clothing

 

[GunnyFreedom]

I'm running some pretty hard-core hydroshocks in my .40 which is pretty much the most damaging thing invented thus far; but THESE things are OMG

They certainly appear to do more raw damage given the way the fragment; but the base seems to have WAY too much penetration for effective energy transfer. I'd be curious to see the difference in raw energy transfer between these and hydroshocks. If you have an attacker coming full-tilt you are liable to want knock-down more than raw lethality.

No question these RIP things are more lethal though.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

I was going to post my comment in the other thread also but I will wait until they are merged.

 

[Intoxiklown]

9mm tube

 

[GunnyFreedom]

That's actually too much penetration, you will sacrifice energy transfer. This round is clearly far more deadly, but hydroshocks will still have more energy transfer and knockdown.

 

[Intoxiklown]

That's actually too much penetration, you will sacrifice energy transfer. This round is clearly far more deadly, but hydroshocks will still have more energy transfer and knockdown.

I feel you. I keep a Kimber .45 in my truck, a .357 revolver in my wife's car, a .357 revolver I open carry, and a 9mm Browning High Power my wife CCs. All are loaded with Hydroshocks.

 

[Intoxiklown]

I am really curious to see the shotgun slugs in this design. I would love to have my 12 gauge loaded with 6 of these.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

I am really curious to see the shotgun slugs in this design. I would love to have my 12 gauge loaded with 6 of these.

Coroner to investigator: "Uh, actually his heart is MISSING"

Investigator: "Missing?"

Coroner: "Yeah, there is just a bunch of shredded tissue left where his heart belongs."

Investigator: "How TF am I supposed to investigate THAT?"

 

[Tod]

wow

non-frozen chicken vs 9mm

 

[Intoxiklown]

Coroner to investigator: "Uh, actually his heart is MISSING"

Investigator: "Missing?"

Coroner: "Yeah, there is just a bunch of shredded tissue left where his heart belongs."

Investigator: "How TF am I supposed to investigate THAT?"

hehe

Not that I would post the number, but I'd literally have to go count to be able to tell you how many firearms my wife and I collectively own. In other words, we own more than I can keep track of. But out of all the cool little toys we get, the only ones that stay out of the gun safes are the personal handguns for when we leave the house, and the three 12 gauge Mossberg 500s. One is on each side of the bed, and the third is in my son's room.

We own AKs, ARs, distance rifles, brush riles, and pistols that make people drool when they come over and see them. But when it comes to home defense, we go straight redneck. Because nothing beats a good scatter gun.

 

[Tod]

Gotta admit, a 12 ga packs a pretty impressive whollop, even with a regular foster slug: (skip to 2:12 and 2:50 for slo-mo)

 

[Intoxiklown]

My family are bird hunters (quail), so I grew up shooting shotguns. My first shotgun was a 12 gauge single barrel, when I was 7. Because that's all I ever used, I just was used to the kick they have. But, to be fair, my favorite hunting gun is my Browning Sweet Sixteen.

For me, it's just hard to beat the versatility that shotgun gives you. It is easy to kill with as long as you understand how the patterns you're throwing out work. And it's easy to cripple someone, if for some reason you shot at someone but didn't want to kill them. I always say, every house should have a shotgun and a 30-30 rifle. Those are the two most versatile weapons man ever saw fit to make.

 

[Cleaner44]

I remember when people got bent out of shape about Black Talons. I think I may need to go shopping.

 

[phill4paul]

Dayuuuum.

 

[pcosmar]

Dayuuuum.

Yup,, but I bet they are pricey. C&C machined,, even with automation is going to keep the price high and mass production down.

Interesting design though.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Yup,, but I bet they are pricey. C&C machined,, even with automation is going to keep the price high and mass production down.

Interesting design though.

It sounds like they will be marketing them to law enforcement. Cost will not be an issue.

 

[Intoxiklown]

Yup,, but I bet they are pricey. C&C machined,, even with automation is going to keep the price high and mass production down.

Interesting design though.

CNC makes mass production easier, and cuts production costs. That's part of the reason more and more machining jobs are moving towards CNC, and away from manual lathes and mills, and the old screw machines.