Need programmer able to code new kind of forum

GunnyFreedom

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ok folks, I have been drafting some stuff together for a while now, and I have what I believe is a blisteringly hot idea for grassroots > org > party > officeholder communication and interaction.

The ROUGH idea is to model the convention process into cyberspace, and create a cyclic flow of information towards the ultimate goal of developing a consensus of constituents within a given precinct/county/district.

I already have a great deal of the logic process worked, but have no real coding skill.

I intend to run for NC CD 2 GOP chair, and would like to debut the convention/forum for my CD during my run for that position. Once that project climbs out of beta, then, it can be made availabe to ALL C4L district coordinators as a tool to provide their district chair, should that chair or congress critter be one of our guys.

Please let me know if you would like to help with this project. I have much more detail, but am on my phone, and cannot type out a whole novel ;)

So let me know if you find such a project interesting, and we'll hammer out some details.
 
I guess I would need more information on what you are looking for. Are you talking about taken an existing forum and you just need setup? Or are you talking about developing one from the ground up? I do have experience in software development as this is what I do for a living.
 
I guess I would need more information on what you are looking for. Are you talking about taken an existing forum and you just need setup? Or are you talking about developing one from the ground up? I do have experience in software development as this is what I do for a living.

I'm guessing that in order to create the fuctionality I seek, it would have to be coded from the ground up.

I have sketched out the process of using a modified form of Roberts Rules to take a 'traditional' discussion format and use it to update a 'wiki' style platform; which updates in a kind cyclical/heirarchical fashion.

the original idea came to me back in March-April 2008 to create a cybernetic model of the real-world convention process in the hopes of creating a process to achieve a consensus around the largest number of grassroots possible. I had originally had hopes of coming up with th system before the State convention and use it to create the Ron Paul delegations platform, but quickly abndoned THAT idea when I saw how complicated it would be to create.

As time went on, the idea expanded (but not the code requirement) to become a means of achieving consensus around any matter.

The rough sketch of the process looks like this:

--> (executive committee board) -> [Modified Robert's Rules] -> {Exec Wiki} -->

<published exec instructions> -> (committee board) -> [Modified Robert's Rules] -> {Committee Wiki} -->

<publshed committee findings> -> (general convention board) -> [Modified Robert's Rules] -> {Convention Wiki} -->

<published convention results> --> (executive committee board) ->

in English:

An smallish (5-10 person) executive committee decides to establish a platform for their group. They discuss amongst themselves what the requirements for a platform might be. During the course of discussion, they come up with ideas and amendments, subject them to a vote, and those which pass the vote get published to the "floor" which is a wiki. This wiki is then published to the next lower level as "instructions" for the platform committee.

This larger platform (50-ish people) committee reads the instructions from the executive committee (published to their board from the executive wiki) and they discuss these instructions and during the course of discussion they develop the platform. Again, going through a modified form of Robert's Rules they come up with ideas and amendments, subject them to votes, and the results of these passing votes are pubished to the "floor" of the committee which is a kind of wiki. The committee wiki then publishes to the next lower level as "findings of the committee" for the general convention to discuss.

This even larger convention (1000-ish people) body reads from the findings and discusses the final form of the platform. They discuss ideas and raise amendments, and the results of these discussions are voted on, subjected to the modified Robert's Rules and published to the "floor" of the convention. The results of the convention floor are then published back to the executive committee; and if any further action on them is required, the cycle continues.

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After much thought, I felt that this would become the perfect system to implement in a GOP Congressional district in order to achieve general consensus amongst the grassroots around all manner of issues, and not merely a platform. This way, the grassroots Republicans would have a real say in the goings on of their party in their district, and the district would have a real consensus around most issues going into their annual convention.

I also intend to run for District 2 GOP chair, and this would be the perfect system to bring with me to that position, and it would be an awesome tool to have available while actually running for the chair.

The long range goal (think years here) would be to set up a 'constellation' of forums all of which inter-communicate -- 3 for a political congressional district (1 convention cycle as described above, 1 traditional blog published by the district office-holders and potential candidates, and one traditional grassroots forums published by the grassroots at large) which share information with one another...another 3 of the same setup for the District C4L org...and another 3 of the same for the District Militia org. Then these three sets of three also interoperate to a limited degree with each other; creating in the end a constellation of 9 total forums that create a flow of information and consensus amongst the GOP, the C4L, and the grassroots Militia.

In the end, this will result in a constellation of 9 forums in a given Congressional District to which ALL members of the district will be invited; that I believe will result in unprecedented public consensus, transparency, and the will of the people being translated to government at large.
 
Let me get my head around what you have here and see what I think would be needed. One of the nice things is that with an open source app would there are tools that would help so that you would not have to redevelop it from the ground up. I am actually thinking of a few wiki's that allow for plugins that you can use to change the functionality.


Really from my quick read, you are asking for 4 connected wiki's that have permission controls, voting mechanisms, and a way to publish to another lower wiki?


BTW I have done wiki code before (and still currently do from time to time.)
 
Let me get my head around what you have here and see what I think would be needed. One of the nice things is that with an open source app would there are tools that would help so that you would not have to redevelop it from the ground up. I am actually thinking of a few wiki's that allow for plugins that you can use to change the functionality.


Really from my quick read, you are asking for 4 connected wiki's that have permission controls, voting mechanisms, and a way to publish to another lower wiki?


BTW I have done wiki code before (and still currently do from time to time.)

Yes, very very close. I have done a lot of sketching on this; there are really only 3 wikis with boards in between. the board "above" the wiki can modify it by way of a vote, while the board "below" the wiki can only read-only and use it as input/guidance for building their own.

I have some images if I can find them really quickly... OK found the PDF I made to do a general description -- I thought I had a good mockup done but I think photoshop crashed on me...

Here are a couple captures from thet PDF file:

A general description:

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and a basic map of the process:

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Quick answer is that I think that can totally be done. I have even already found a few options that are open source so it could help make development of it very quick.

I did a quick search on the net and think I have a good option for ya. Give me some time to play around and I can send you a link to my private server and you can get a look.
 
Also, everything the "platform committee" publishes will be on a single "Floor," but they would need to be able to insert something like an 'escape character' that splits their floor into subforums for the next lower level. That way, the people only interested in foreign policy can habitate the foreign policy board and the people only interested in economic policy can habitate the economic pollicy boards; splitting the work into bite-sized portions.
 
Quick answer is that I think that can totally be done. I have even already found a few options that are open source so it could help make development of it very quick.

I did a quick search on the net and think I have a good option for ya. Give me some time to play around and I can send you a link to my private server and you can get a look.

Hey thanks so much! I'll be forever in your debt for the help. I also think it would be light-years beyond awesome if the CD-4 GOP can come into the 2010 convention WITH EVERY SINGLE DELEGATE having helped shape the platform! :D :D
 
Oh there are a few other things I should find out. Do you have a place to host this or are you thinking of doing that latter? The reason I ask is that there may be some requirements that the server would have to meet.
 
Oh there are a few other things I should find out. Do you have a place to host this or are you thinking of doing that latter? The reason I ask is that there may be some requirements that the server would have to meet.

I don't have one set up already, but I have plenty of contacts for space. Once I know the requirements, I can talk to the several people I know and set up hosting. Amongst them I am certain to find one with the php, pearl, or whathaveyou required.
 
I would vote for Gunny.

Muhaha! Thanks Yongrel! Housing is getting pretty cheap here in CD2 in some areas... ;)

As it stands, I am thinking GOP District Chair in 2009; NC State House in 2010 or 2012; and US Congress in 2014 or 2018. Just kidding about the cheap housing tho -- i wouldn't ask someone to move here just for a single vote... now if you knew how to vote TWICE... ;)
 
bed for now tho -- I have a full day in the AM. more signs to make for a bailout protest on Thursday
 
The wiki idea is interesting ... if i were using a forum, I would use permission groups to control who can edit what thread in what forum and simply allow the right groups the ability to move a thread to the next area in the process. Maybe use something like the thread prefixes to help prevent 100 subforums.
 
Refine:

for every district, build a tri-cameral 'house' of forums that model, logically, the Constitutional Republic. C4L brand it, and offer it to the District GOP whenever a C4L'er takes that chair. Promote the forums heavily in the District grassroots, do it now along with the GOP brand, develop the code, and then later offer it to everyone, open source. :D
 
Refine:

for every district, build a tri-cameral 'house' of forums that model, logically, the Constitutional Republic. C4L brand it, and offer it to the District GOP whenever a C4L'er takes that chair. Promote the forums heavily in the District grassroots, do it now along with the GOP brand, develop the code, and then later offer it to everyone, open source. :D

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