NASA says Mars craft "touched and tasted" water

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NASA says Mars craft "touched and tasted" water

By Jill Serjeant2 hours, 54 minutes ago

NASA scientists said on Thursday they had definitive proof that water exists on Mars after further tests on ice found on the planet in June by the Phoenix Mars Lander.

"We have water," said William Boynton, lead scientist for the Thermal and Evolved-Gas Analyzer instrument on Phoenix.

"We've seen evidence for this water ice before in observations by the Mars Odyssey orbiter and in disappearing chunks observed by Phoenix last month, but this is the first time Martian water has been touched and tasted," he said, referring to the craft's instruments.

NASA on Thursday also extended the mission of the Phoenix Mars Lander by five weeks, saying its work was moving beyond the search for water to exploring whether the red planet was ever capable of sustaining life.

"We are extending the mission through September 30," Michael Meyer, chief scientist for NASA's Mars exploration program, told a televised news conference.

The extension will add about $2 million to the $420 million cost of landing Phoenix on May 25 for what was a scheduled three-month mission, Meyer said.

Phoenix is the latest NASA bid to discover whether water -- a crucial ingredient for life -- ever flowed on Mars and whether life, even in the form of mere microbes, exists or ever existed there.

Phoenix touched down in May on an ice sheet and samples of the ice were seen melting away in photographs taken by the lander's instruments in June.

Boynton said that water was positively identified after the lander's robotic arm delivered a soil sample on Wednesday to an instrument that identifies vapors produced by heating.

Mission scientists said the extension would give time for more analysis of Martian samples. They plan to dig two additional trenches -- dubbed "cupboard" and "neverland" -- using the robotic arm on the Phoenix craft.

"We hope to be able to answer the question of whether this was a habitable zone on Mars. It will be for future missions to find if anyone is home on this environment," Phoenix principal investigator Peter Smith told the news conference.

Mission scientists said in June that Martian soil was more alkaline than expected and had traces of magnesium, sodium, potassium and other elements. They described the findings as a "huge step forward."

Meyer said the scientific proof of the existence of water meant that Phoenix could "move from looking for water to seeing whether there were habitats for life.

"We are moving towards understanding whether there were or could be places on Mars that are habitable," Meyer said.

(Reporting by Jill Serjeant; Editing by Eric Walsh)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080731/sc_nm/space_mars_dc&printer=1;_ylt=Ak89yHWlVuM5R7lCjW5DrCsiANEA
 
In other news, the mars rover "spirit" caught a local protest.

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I see a great business opportunity in martian bottled water.

Imagine this ad tagline:

Stop drinking recycled urine. Drink something out of this world instead!

Mars water, the beverage of choice for microbe obsessed reclusive billionaires.
 
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Well, now that they got the search for water out of the way, the scientist are now going to dig two more trenches to see if microbes could still exist today under the surface.
 
To find alien microbes would be huge for our thoughts on living cell development in the universe.

Everyone seems to have a gut feeling, that where the ingredients of life are present with favorable conditions, its only a matter of time before life emerges from those building blocks.
 
Everyone seems to have a gut feeling, that where the ingredients of life are present with favorable conditions, its only a matter of time before life emerges from those building blocks.

Assuming, of course, we don't stamp it out in the process of colonization.
 
Assuming, of course, we don't stamp it out in the process of colonization.

I think that is why these robotic missions are important.
Assuming they have been sterlized, and that deep space keeps them sterile. We can find these organism before we colonize.
Though, i have to admit, i'm all for terraforming. which would include the introduction of single celll organisms that can break up local minerals into useful gases.
 
To find alien microbes would be huge for our thoughts on living cell development in the universe.

Everyone seems to have a gut feeling, that where the ingredients of life are present with favorable conditions, its only a matter of time before life emerges from those building blocks.

I completely agree with that. And they just found a lake on one of Saturn's moons as well. We are quickly finding that conditions for life exist much closer to us than we previously thought.
 
I completely agree with that. And they just found a lake on one of Saturn's moons as well. We are quickly finding that conditions for life exist much closer to us than we previously thought.

The lake on titan is made of liquid methane. That is a very cold temp.
Though- no worries about starting a world-wide fire. There is no oxygen present for a flame to burn.

Though there are other moons more likely to hold life like Europa
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All evidence suggest there is a water ocean underneath the ice.

And by knowing that early life began at great depths in our oceans:
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we could have some confidence in believing life can exist if the core is hot enough.
the push and pull of jupiters gravity keeps its moons warm:
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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/3016_magnetic.html
3.9 billion years ago mars was slightly warmer to the degree
where it could have been pleasant for us. then the molten core
cooled and ceased to rotate. the magnetic field disappeared...
mars could have been inhabited, possibly then. i am a romanticist. :cool:

Any lifeforms that may of existed at this time may have evolved and withstood the changing conditions.

There could be a plethora of life deep under the surface of mars.

Pete
 
I read in an article tonight that there may be some small forms of volcanism still left on mars, something similar to a water geyser.
 
cool article, torchbearer, ...an' good luck concerning your upcoming campaign run!
 
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