Mexico’s President to Donald Trump: America Is for Migrants

tfurrh said:
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No, he has said it before:

DamianTV said:
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/a...-a-human-right

Andrés Manuel López Obrador (otherwise known as “AMLO”) is about to become the next president of Mexico. He has a seemingly insurmountable lead in the polls, and at this point it would be a complete and utter shock if anyone else were to win on July 1st. So what he has to say is likely to become the official policy of the Mexican government in the very near future, and that is quite frightening because he is a crazed radical leftist and an extremely bold proponent of illegal immigration to the United States. As I wrote about yesterday, Mexico has begun the process of a complete and total societal meltdown, and right now chaos reigns supreme along the U.S.-Mexico border. It would be extremely helpful to have a Mexican president that would be committed to restoring order along the border, but instead AMLO has boldly declared that immigration to the United States is a “human right” and he is encouraging more immigrants to start pouring into the U.S. illegally…

Mexican presidential candidate Andrés Manuel López Obrador (AMLO) called for mass immigration to the United States during a speech Tuesday declaring it a “human right” for all North Americans.

“And soon, very soon — after the victory of our movement — we will defend all the migrants in the American continent and all the migrants in the world,” Obrador said, adding that immigrants “must leave their towns and find a life in the United States.”​

Does that mean that he also believes that immigration to Mexico is a “human right” and that everyone around the world that can get to Mexico’s borders must be allowed in?

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So, Illegal Immigration to the US is a Right? A Right that comes at our expense? No Right can come at the expense of anothers Right.

And no offense to Canada, but why not Canada? Why not "Immigration to Canada" is a Human Right? Wouldnt that include a bunch of people in the US already? I blame Canada! We should go to war with Canada because, um, well, uh, yeah, I got nuthin. But it would be great for the US Economy if we went to Canada, as well as a means of peacefully promoting Human Rights because War = Peace! And they have Free Health Care in Canada that WE should have a Right to take from them and we should deny their Right to say anything about it! We could start a new Trade War, and put Tariffs on People! We could export all of our deplorables and undesirables to Canada and we would be left with the Creme of the Crap, er Crop! Then we could put people like Trigglypuff in charge of Feminazi Rights Movements! Then put Scrooge McDuck in charge of the US Treasury and deport Alladin! What could go wrong?
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Swordsmyth said:
No, he has said it before:
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This is still spin (economiccollapseblog?), but regardless, I know you don't agree with a lot of libertarians, but a lot of libertarians agree that peaceably moving/traveling is a human right.
 
tfurrh said:
This is still spin (economiccollapseblog?), but regardless, I know you don't agree with a lot of libertarians, but a lot of libertarians agree that peaceably moving/traveling is a human right.
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I will whole heartedly agree with that. I will also agree to reasonable restrictions on that travel, such as travel across someone elses Private Property. No you cant move into my back yard, its my back yard. Likewise I cant just decide to move onto your backyard. Great thing about Freedom once again rises because if we are both willing to negotiate about either of us moving onto either of our back yards, then we do NOT need government, and that lack of need of Govt to tell us what to do is the greatest threat to Big Govt and the Religion of State Worship.

This also holds true in larger groups. Cities can say "yes you can build here" or "no you can not build here". It depends on what is being built and who is building it, as well as the long term effects on the City. Same thing for countries. Yes, you can move where ever the fuck you want with in your own country. Its your country, and beyond the scope of either my personal authority, or the authority of the US Govt to tell people how to live in other countries. But, come to THIS country WITHOUT PERMISSION OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE and THAT IS a violation of our collective Right as a Sovereign Nation.

Free Speech has reasonable restrictions too, but we dont need laws against it. When Free Speech is used to cause harm to a person, it typically comes in the form of Libel or Slander. But we also have "you yelled FIRE in a theater and got my ass trampled", well, there is a victim and bodily harm was caused, but this is NOT a Constitutional issue it is a Civil issue, where by one person holds another person accountable for the harm that has befallen them.

Leftists tend to operate by the same means, Oppressor vs Oppressed. They have turned everyone into both victims and aggressors, depending on the category. Gays have been sold the victim mentality for years, but now when they come down and demand a baker bake a wedding cake, that is the Victim becoming the Oppressor. By constantly reinforcing this ideology, it only promotes a Hegalian Dialectic conclusion that the solution to the problem of Oppressor vs Oppressed is BIGGER Govt. Always bigger Govt. And a Govt big enough not only to give you everything you want, but big enough to give you everything you want by taking it away from someone else.

And therein lies the truth of Socialism. Unlimited Govt over absolutely everything can only result in one thing, a people that needs to get permission to speak about a particular thing before actually speaking about it. SO the people calling for Censorship or really ANY Big Govt solution to every single fucking problem out there are only succeeding in undermining themselves because if they get their Socialist Wish fulfilled, then they themselves will no longer be allowed to speak.

Same thing goes for Mexico and Immigration. Mexico has some of the harshest immigration laws. Get married with the intent of defrauding their state for their welfare, if you get busted, you spend hard time in a Mexican Prison, that that is no joke. Mexico would apply ZERO TOLERANCE should US citizens invade Mexico at the same rate as they have been invading us. But it is NEVER OK for an actual victim to defend themselves from an Invasion.

The real reason that Immigration is both tolerated and wanted is because the Demoncratic Party sees the opportunity to exploit the immigrants for a chance at PERMANENT POLITICAL POWER. Should that come, there will NEVER be another Republican controlled Executive Branch or Congress, both the House and Senate. The leftists have destroyed California. Imagine what they will do to the rest of the country should they get that power. They will turn us into Little Mexico, and we WILL be as poor as they are there, or worse.

What they are trying to say here is that Mexican have Rights and we do NOT. When to people have Unequal Rights, you have Injustice.
 
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LibertyEagle said:
A lot of libertarians do not agree with you, either.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/11/lew-rockwell/open-borders-assault-private-property/
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timosman said:
Unrestricted Immigration - http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?484861-Unrestricted-Immigration
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Lew didn't ever dismiss freedom of movement as incorrect. In fact, he agreed with it. He only says that freedom of movement should be qualified, and also shouldn't mean open borders (unless there's no welfare system). So basically he agrees with me :D

High point of the article:
The correct way to proceed, therefore, is to decentralize decision-making on immigration to the lowest possible level, so that we approach ever more closely the proper libertarian position, in which individual property owners consent to the various movements of peoples.
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Either way what the Mexican president announced is more stupid and this would actually help Trump and his anti immigration base.

"Poor Migrants should come to America"

Yeah maybe Mexico should take care of its own people for once?
 
There is no need for a Mexican President. Mexico can deed all its land to the USA and fall under USA law and leadership. All Mexicans can become US citizens.
 
Swordsmyth said:
That would turn us into Mexico overnight, I'll pass.
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Yeah. That's what happened when Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Utah, Nevada and California were no longer Mexico.... most in just about the same manner as suggested.
 
tfurrh said:
Yeah. That's what happened when Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Utah, Nevada and California were no longer Mexico.... most in just about the same manner as suggested.
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They weren't nearly so populated and America wasn't already balanced on a knife's edge ready to be tipped into mexican political culture nor was mexican political culture as different from ours back then.

No thanks.
 
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