Massive (new) Cain gaffe (like on Perrys level) lol

Embarrassing. Of course I'm familiar with people who will look at this as quaint...proving hes a true outsider. lol.
 
Embarrassing. Of course I'm familiar with people who will look at this as quaint...proving hes a true outsider. lol.

You ain't kidding. I couldn't begin to tell you how many people liked W because he was a dumbass! I'd point out his stupid statements and they'd say "yeah but that's what I like about him.." Idiots!
 
So not only does he want to go to war, but he doesn't even know who we're bombing or why.

Yep. Ron Paul is definitely the unelectable one *cough*.
 
why the freak doesn't he just say that "the opposition" was al-qaeda? the very "organization" the .gov is supposed to be in a war on tactics (see wut i did thar?) with.

status quoers are so... ugh.
 
Political neophyte in my house comments that he doesn't know politics ... but he thinks Cain is an idiot.
 
Except that a gaffe is what Perry did, just forget something he really knew. Embarrassing, but this is worse. Cain clearly has no clue.
 
This guy really is a complete idiot.

So the media props him up.... we all know that. does he get credit for slugging it out this long? I mean, most members of this forum have a better grasp of the issues. How much credit is due to him? I really truly wonder.
 
Someone should make a video of all these absurd statements, with Rick Perry, Romney, and Cain. Newt would be cool as well. This video is just good comic relief, though. Hope you guys enjoy
http://ejw.thisweekinblackness.com/blog/2011/11/14/herman-cain-choke-libya/#.TsG-8fQUqso

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WW_nDFKAmCo#!

I don't see much of a problem there at all. Certainly not in the same class of problem, or league of problem.

Cain was asked a difficult question about Libya. And he paused for a while before answering. I'm not certain what exactly would be the problem.

Perry started a sentence with "I plan to abolish 3 departments" and was given a full minute to name those 3 departments, and was unable to do so.

Perry's performance was very close to being unable to state your own name. Perry's performance, if it was in the general, would have made him lose, and make us lose house seats and senate seats. We would have been unable to defend him.

I don't even see any problem with what Cain did, at all.

Edit - I wrote this after I only watched it once. There definitely was bad there. The ending was fine, the first minute was either shaky or bad.
 
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Seriously? he paused for ages, then ran the clock by repeating the question then restated several times a perfectly incoherent and non-specific answer until the reporter gave up.
 
Except that a gaffe is what Perry did, just forget something he really knew. Embarrassing, but this is worse. Cain clearly has no clue.

What exactly did Cain say wrong?

What Perry did was forget the names of the 3 departments he would close down. That was the single worst moment in political history. Unless you can come up with something worse.
He was given a full minute, and he couldn't name the 3 departments he would close down. The worst.

Cain ended up with a fairly coherent point, which was "I would've assessed the conditions on the ground regarding the opposition a little differently." And he laid out the various factors going into the opposition. The goals of the opposition, the strength of the opposition. A fairly good answer. He paused, it was on camera, but it was not a debate, he has all the time he needs in that context. What exactly was the problem? I guess I'll have to watch it again. Read the transcript, or maybe someone could explain it.

Has this become a news story? Are people talking like this is a major problem?

Edit - it was somewhat worse than I make it out to be here. He finished up the answer ok, but that minute at the beginning was shaky. Still, nowhere near as bad as Perry. You have to know your own plan. You don't necessarily have to know what Obama did.
 
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Ok, edit the posts. Yeah, that was bad. At the same time, I can't help but think that it was intentional, somehow. Maybe to make Perry look better? Not worse then Perry, but it was fairly clear that he wasn't 100% sure about what Obama did regarding Libya. And that made him nervous. He guessed. I think he guessed right. Tried a sentence. Realized that wasn't going to work for him. Made that comment about things going around in his head.

Going to watch more of it.

Ok, he was good after the questioner talked again.

Was worse than my first assessment. He hemmed and hawed. He started a sentence and stopped. Said the thing about twirling in his head. But he did get the facts right, from what I can tell.

Not anywhere near as bad as Perry.

Perry was talking about his own plan. He could not come up with the 3, that he started his sentence with, his own plan. He was given a minute to do so.

Cain might just have been stumped with a tricky guestion. Perry wasn't trying to answer a tricky question. Perry was reading the headline of his own speech.

This isn't Jeopardy.

On the other hand, it's tricky for Republicans nowadays, because they really want to criticize Obama on foreign policy, and Obama is actiing pretty much like how they would act, that they have to find fault in such minor detail. "the assessment of the opposition" would've been handled differently.

For Ron Paul it's easy. Don't meddle in their civil wars. Slash the military budget. Close all the bases. Send our troops home from everywhere. He really doesn't have to know the small stuff, those little details. Cain agrees that we should've been in there, but he knows that it's good politics to be against Obama.

None of that stuff Cain said in that first minute was smooth. and it was bad. But nowhere near Perry bad.

You should know your own plan.

You might not know 1) what Obama did in Libya. 2) how what Obama did in Libya differs from what you'd do in Libya.

Cain worse than my earlier assessments. Still nowhere near as bad as Perry.
 
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