Lindsey Graham Introduces Bill To Commit US Troops to Israel

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We've got to kick this guy out of office! Who was that great speaker at the Ron Paul rally from SC? Wasn't there a chance he could run and challenge his seat??

Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) is planning to press the Senate next month to pledge U.S. troops, money, and political support to Israel should Bibi Netanyahu launch a preventive war on Iran.

Graham claims his effort would merely make explicit that the U.S. has Israel's back. But when your friend is drunk, you don't hand them the keys. If Graham has his way, he will hand Bibi the keys and lend him our car, while the rest of us ride shotgun.

Graham's planned measure would outsource the decision about whether the U.S. goes to war to the Israeli prime minister, pledging that if Bibi decides to act -- regardless of the consequences and our own calculations -- the U.S. will provide money, troops, and political leverage (presumably at the UN and IAEA where there will be a push to shred the sanctions and the Non-Proliferation Treaty).

Those who support the measure will likely claim that a "credible threat" of war must be issued in order to prevent an actual war. But U.S. military leaders understand the difference between a credible threat, which is already very much on the table given the U.S. presence in the Persian Gulf, and outsourcing the decision of whether the U.S. goes to war to Bibi Netanyahu.

As chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Martin Dempsey pointedly said just weeks ago about potential Israeli strikes on Iran, "I don't want to be complicit if they decide to do it." Graham's resolution is about as clear a signal of complicity as you can get.

Graham's mendacity on Iran policy should by now be notorious. His most recent victory was to convince Congress to endorse Netanayhu's redline for war with Iran instead of the redline laid out by the president. The trick was that, in pushing that measure, Graham disingenuously claimed that Obama's redline was nuclear weapons "capability." And Congress bought it. In reality, the president very clearly rejected that redline and said the U.S redline was to prevent Iran from actually getting the bomb, not getting an amorphous "capability."

But Graham (and Bibi) won the battle on the Hill. Both the House and the Senate voted to endorse Netanyahu's redline, not Obama's. To be fair, many in the House and Senate who supported the resolution still have no idea that there is a difference. They read the talking points circulated by Graham and AIPAC (the measure's chief advocates), and to this day think they were simply voting to endorse what Obama had already said.

Now, Graham is herding his willfully ignorant colleagues to support another incremental step towards war with Iran, under the guise of being "pro-Israel" and supporting the president. His new resolution would twist Obama's words that the U.S. "has Israel's back" to mean the U.S. is on call to jump into war with Iran if and when Netanyahu decides it's go time.

According to CQ, Graham said having Israel's back means, "if you get into a fight, I'm coming to help you." He continued:

"There are two different clocks here, the Washington clock and the Tel Aviv clock," he said. "The Israelis are not going to let the window close on their ability to slow down this program. They're going to act... They're going to control their own destiny."

Graham's resolution would make it clear that the United States would provide assistance to Israel "if they have to go because they've decided they are not going to turn their window over to us or anybody else."

Sorry, but there is a difference between not getting in Israel's way and actively supporting a disastrous decision with American servicemembers, money, and international political leverage. Graham is hoping that, yet again, no one notices the difference.

Having Israel's back does not mean supporting preventive war that the entire national security establishment says would be a disaster for everyone involved and could guarantee an Iranian nuclear weapon. Having Israel's back does not mean goading them into making stupid decisions and pledging to bail them out unconditionally.

The Senate should not be handing out promises to enable foreign leaders to decide whether and when the U.S. goes to war. This would not be a mutual defense pact -- it would be a suicide pact.

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According to CQ, Graham said having Israel's back means, "if you get into a fight, I'm coming to help you."

I'm willing to chip-in for a one-way airline ticket for him.
 
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Who is really surprised by this?

The US taxpayer stands with Israel whether he wants to or not.
 
He should be charged with treason! What a sick, sick, little man to even consider proposing such a terrible piece of legislation.
 
I wish he would just come "out" already. Maybe that's what they are blackmailing him with. (At least that's what I've read in the past)
 
I always wondered how come our commander-in-chief and warhawk senators does not go to where the fighting is going on to direct the troops?

Honestly, why do we still have a position like the US president/commander-in-chief if the president just gets advice and does what his cabinent/staff says? Obama should be like King Leonidas and go with a squad of soldiers to fight off 1000's of taliban with little hope of rescue or help.
 
Fuck this guy.

The worst part is, I don't doubt most in Congress would vote FOR this trash simply out of fear of being branded an "anti-semite" by the lobby.
 
I say he should be the first one in line to go fight. Him and all his realitives.
 
Do the troops get the same benefits allowed to Israeli troops on top of what they already get? Its only fair.
 
More and more I start to see the wisdom of this passage for the men in suits who wish to wage war with other peoples bodies.

Let the workers in these plants get the same wages -- all the workers, all presidents, all
executives, all directors, all managers, all bankers -- yes, and all generals and all admirals
and all officers and all politicians and all government office holders -- everyone in the nation
be restricted to a total monthly income not to exceed that paid to the soldier in the trenches
 
But it's just an authorization for Bibi to use US force. It doesn't mean he will actually need to use US forces, but we have to do this to show the Iranians we are serious. :rolleyes: Just like the authorization for Bush to use force against Iraq. Deju vu all over again.

What would Ron Paul say? We just have to change a few words, and his next speech is ready to go...

Statement Opposing the Use of Military Force against Iraq

Congressman Ron Paul U.S. House of Representatives October 8, 2002

Statement Opposing the use of Military Force against Iraq Iran

Madam Speaker, I rise in opposition to this resolution. The wisdom of the war is one issue, but the process and the philosophy behind our foreign policy are important issues as well. But I have come to the conclusion that I see no threat to our national security. There is no convincing evidence that Iraq Iran is capable of threatening the security of this country, and, therefore, very little reason, if any, to pursue a war.

But I am very interested also in the process that we are pursuing. This is not a resolution to declare war. We know that. This is a resolution that does something much different. This resolution transfers the responsibility, the authority, and the power of the Congress to the President Prime Minister of Israel so he can declare war when and if he wants to. He has not even indicated that he wants to go to war or has to go to war; but he will make the full decision, not the Congress, not the people through the Congress of this country in that manner.

It does something else, though. One-half of the resolution delivers this power to the President Prime Minister of Israel, but it also instructs him to enforce U.N. resolutions. I happen to think I would rather listen to the President when he talks about unilateralism and national security interests, than accept this responsibility to follow all of the rules and the dictates of the United Nations. That is what this resolution does. It instructs him to follow all of the resolutions.

But an important aspect of the philosophy and the policy we are endorsing here is the preemption doctrine. This should not be passed off lightly. It has been done to some degree in the past, but never been put into law that we will preemptively strike another nation that has not attacked us. No matter what the arguments may be, this policy is new; and it will have ramifications for our future, and it will have ramifications for the future of the world because other countries will adopt this same philosophy.

I also want to mention very briefly something that has essentially never been brought up. For more than a thousand years there has been a doctrine and Christian definition of what a just war is all about. I think this effort and this plan to go to war comes up short of that doctrine. First, it says that there has to be an act of aggression; and there has not been an act of aggression against the United States. We are 6,000 miles from their shores.

Also, it says that all efforts at negotiations must be exhausted. I do not believe that is the case. It seems to me like the opposition, the enemy, right now is begging for more negotiations.

Also, the Christian doctrine says that the proper authority must be responsible for initiating the war. I do not believe that proper authority can be transferred to the President Prime Minister of Israel nor to the United Nations.

http://paul.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=307&Itemid=60
 
I say he should be the first one in line to go fight. Him and all his realitives.

Well, seeing as how is a Colonel in the Air Force Reserve, and has a tour each in Iraq and Afghanistan, I'm sure it won't take much convincing for him.




BTW-FUCK YOU LINDSEY GRAHAM!!
 
Does this mean soldiers must be told they will be fighting for Israel as well? It seems like this would void all current contracts members of the military have signed.
 
Well, seeing as how is a Colonel in the Air Force Reserve, and has a tour each in Iraq and Afghanistan, I'm sure it won't take much convincing for him.




BTW-FUCK YOU LINDSEY GRAHAM!!

He is a military lawyer - won't see him out with the trigger pullers.
 
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