Liberty Is Not Popular

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Jeffrey Tucker
The Rand Paul Campaign: A Retrospective


I’m not ruling out a sudden surge, but, as for this writing, it seems very likely that Rand Paul will not get the Republican nomination, at least not this time. Maybe the future will be different.

Let’s reflect on the meaning of this and its implications for the future of liberty.

Based on my social feeds, many libertarians are drawing the wrong lessons. They say that the reason Rand didn’t pull it off is because he departed too much from the script. He should have been more upfront about his libertarianism. He should have been more aggressive in pushing a peaceful foreign policy and civil liberties. He should have been more radical on domestic politics.

As much as that would have delighted me, and as much as I long for truth in public life, it is very reasonable to assume that doing so would not have helped him politically. On the contrary, all available evidence is that taking this position would have made his loss a sure thing. Whether he would be a bit higher in the polls than he is now is hard to say. But this much is true: a libertarian cannot win the Republican nomination.

In the most recent debate, Rand seemed to shift toward a more openly liberty-minded position. He condemned the drug war. He said that we should not go back to Iraq. He was pointed in saying that he had always opposed the Iraq war. He made mention of the disparate impact of many laws on the poor.

The result of this excellent performance: he slipped further in the polls. Keep this in mind when you are critiquing his campaign. The people who ran it knew something that most libertarians don’t want to think about: liberty is not a popular position among Republican voters. That he fell further in the polls the more open he was is a demonstration of that.

Now let’s presume that his goal at the outset was to get the nomination. He was not running an educational campaign; his father had already done that. He was not running to delight you and me. His sole purpose in committing his personal resources was to become president, to actually get serious about doing politics — with the goal of doing good things for the country.

Keep that mind as you think through this. Can you get the nomination by opposing foreign interventions, calling for dramatic military cuts, or aggressively opposing the social fascism of the religious right, by directly taking on the whole ruling class and their sources of power and money? There’s no way.

How do we know? There was an empirical test that occurred a few years ago, in the 2012 presidential campaign. Here is the most reliable public polling data of the candidates.

As you can see, the Ron Paul campaign stayed in the 6-10% range for the bulk of the campaign. Gingrich and Santorum, in contrast, polled as high as 35%. Ron’s polling pushed up to a height of 15% after Rick Perry (who had 32% at his height) dropped out — which makes sense given that they were both from Texas. In general, however, Ron’s support had a firm and impenetrable glass ceiling, simply because of the views of the typical Republican voter.

If we look back to the 2008 election, we see something very similar. Ron Paul polled at about 6% for most of the time, reaching a height of 7%.

What’s striking about these polls is the complete absence of any evidence of breaking from the pack. Unlike the other candidates such as Herman Cain, who boomed up to 26% at one point, the libertarian occupied a stable but relatively small niche and never got beyond it.

What was the difference between Ron and Rand? Rand beat Ron’s polling at one point, coming in as high as 17%.

He hoped to go beyond that, which accounts for the broadening of his rhetoric. The risk of doing that is losing your base, which did indeed happen.

But think of this from a tactical standpoint. Losing your base is not a risk if the sole goal is to get beyond the base and enter into the mainstream. I’m guessing that the Rand campaign had every confidence that the libertarians would eventually come around — just as they always come around.

After all, it would have been an amazing victory for him to get the nomination and gain the chance to be president. Libertarians would have been overjoyed — and the ones that vote might have helped him.

But again, remember that the purpose of the Rand campaign was to win the nomination. If that is the first goal, the way he went about it makes sense. It didn’t seem likely an entirely crazy goal either, given that the*New York Times*has been going on about the “libertarian moment,” that libertarian conferences are going on all over the country, that the polls indicate that people are fed up with government in so many ways.

But here’s the problem. It’s one thing to hate the status quo. It’s something else to embrace the only moral and viable alternative to the status quo. There are many other paths to break with the establishment besides cutting government to the bone.

One of them has been exploited by Donald Trump: run as a strong man and tap into nativist fears. This is the tried and true path of fascism. As an ideological structure it has proven far more popular among GOP primary voters than any form of coherent libertarian ideology.

Is this an indication that we should despair? No. Certainly there is no reason to be hopeful about the prospects of electoral politics and top-down reform. If the time ever comes when a true liberty-minded person has a real chance at the nomination, it seems further off than ever.

But do we need to wait to realize liberty until a majority of the population has come around to the case for the full libertarian loaf? If we believe that, we are living an illusion, and there is a good case for despair. It is not going to happen.

Liberty is part of the structure of human life, a longing of the soul of every person. It’s a universal feature of the human person. It’s in the particulars that matters bog down. The particulars could also be our salvation.

This is why I’m much more interested in the micro-strategies of reform, challenging system of compulsion and control through technological innovation and revolutionary entrepreneurship. Here we see real results.

That doesn’t mean that politics is a worthless enterprise. But it does mean that no one should expect politics to lead revolutionary change. As for those who do their best to use the system to beat the system, they deserve every congratulation.

This race hasn’t been easy for Rand. I felt like I could see the pain on his face during the second debate. He spoke the truth. He deserves credit for it. It is also to his credit that he can’t get the nomination.
 
But remember that the purpose of the Rand campaign was to win the nomination. If that is the first goal, the way he went about it makes sense

In what way does it make sense? I'm sorry, but Tucker is wrong here. Rand is a complete amateur and foolish politician is the lesson here.

Rand pandered to the Kochs early on, but they didn't have none of it because he's a Paul. He then pandered to Sheldon Adelson hoping to get the Israel supporters neocon votes. Going as far as staging a PR visit to Jerusalem that made him look like a complete tool. There are a handful of me-too GOP candidates that out-neocon Rand. At the same time he tried to gain back the Silicon Valley venture capitalists supports. But having learned the complete incompetent of Ron Paul's 2012 campaign managers (which is still running Rand's), the Peter Thiels and Musks ignored his campaign. The only donations he could mustered up was from tea-partiers, but that too dried up as soon as Trump and Carson show up.

Trump was right when he called Paul a "light weight". Maybe even overestimating it a little.
 
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In what way does it make sense? I'm sorry, but Tucker is wrong here. Rand is a complete amateur and foolish politician is the lesson here.

Rand pandered to the Kochs early on, but they didn't have none of it because he's a Paul. He then pandered to Sheldon Adelson hoping to get the Israel supporters neocon votes. Going as far as staging a PR visit to Jerusalem that made him look like a complete tool. At the same time he tried to gain back the Silicon Valley venture capitalists supports. But having learned the complete incompetent of Ron Paul's 2012 campaign managers (which is still running Rand's), the Peter Thiels and Musks ignored his campaign. The only donations he could get was from tea-partiers, but that too dried up as soon as Trump show up.

Trump was right when he called Paul a "light weight". Maybe even over estimating it a little.

I think Tucker is right in pretty much everything he says in that article. A libertarian can't win the presidency right now. If Rand didn't do the things you mention in your post, it wouldn't matter.
 
I think Tucker is right in pretty much everything he says in that article. A libertarian can't win the presidency right now. If Rand didn't do the things you mention in your post, it wouldn't matter.

This^^
Examining the details of the views of the "anti-establishmentarian" candidates and hoi polloi, it's clear that it's a movement dedicated more to opposing the dems for the sake of opposing than eliminating the entrenched fascism and neoconservatism that defines the mainstream GOP.
 
No doubt. Mainstream voters support the least liberty candidates the most. They love Clinton, Sanders, Trump, and Carson. All of them hate liberty with a passion. That is the fate of the world ;(
 
Liberty is part of the structure of human life, a longing of the soul of every person. It’s a universal feature of the human person. It’s in the particulars that matters bog down. The particulars could also be our salvation.

So we'd like to think.

But the author just spent the previous thirty paragraphs convincing us that is not the case.

And it isn't.

Freedom is not popular, nor does it beat in the breast of every human being.

Most people don't care, and only want to be fed and entertained and boss around their fellow man.

Until that situation is addressed, and addressed in a harsh and realistic manner, those few of us who do care, will be ignored, mocked, ridiculed and dragged off into tyranny with all the rest of the masses of bleating, hopeless humanity.
 
Until that situation is addressed, and addressed in a harsh and realistic manner, those few of us who do care, will be ignored, mocked, ridiculed and dragged off into tyranny with all the rest of the masses of bleating, hopeless humanity.

Holly f*ck, when did I sign up for this? :D
 
As shown by the American revolution, liberty does not need a numerical majority to succeed. Liberty needs only to be popular with a dedicated minority that is large enough to change the status quo, or to make doing things as usual impossible. The majority is typically conformist, and goes with the resulting flow, with no fiercely held or fixed view either way. A few "give me liberty or give me death" patriots or "religious nuts with guns" (P.J. O'Rourke's wonderful phrase about the people who founded this country) are all that's needed to prevail, given the passivity of the general public.

Look at what a handful of "Freedom Caucus" so-called radicals did to shake up the House leadership this month. Examine, in war-torn countries, how few guerrillas it takes to keep things unstablized, by disrupting the regular routine. Depending on the rules of a legislative body, a handful of people can bottle things up for extended periods of time in order to at least partially get their way.

Most importantly, the other side has succeeded via their minority influence, based on the fierce dedication and organization of the Total State partisans. Neocons started out as just a few Troyskyites writing columns, and grew to take over the right on foreign policy within a generation. Domestic issue socialists likewise wormed almost all the points of the Communist Manifesto into the American system through regulations, liberal courts, controlling the media, bribing voters with subsidies, and through constant dishonest use of language.

So, liberty folks should stop pining for 'popularity' that would be ephemeral or passive if even obtained, and concentrate on achieving the perhaps 20% critical mass needed to bring liberty back, via clogging the current system up, then worry about steering the passive majority into conforming to it.
 
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As shown by the American revolution, liberty does not need a numerical majority to succeed. Liberty needs only to be popular with a dedicated minority that is large enough to change the status quo, or to make doing things as usual impossible. The majority is typically conformist, and goes with the resulting flow, with no fiercely held or fixed view either way. A few "give me liberty or give me death" patriots or "religious nuts with guns"

you might need to read up on the revolution again if you thing a few give me liberty or gun nuts founded this country. The founders of this nation were wealthy and powerful.
 
Rand's strategy might have worked with a candidate more able politically. During the first debate he was literally annoying screaming. Attacking Trump when he was very popular showed that his strategy IQ was in the toilet. He should've presented his message. Those who wanted to hear attacks on Trump went to read George Will or Charles Krauthammer. They weren't looking for Rand to do that.

I don't know what happened to Rand. I blame the x-rays from traveling so much.
 
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Good article altogether

Jeffrey Tucker said:
Based on my social feeds, many libertarians are drawing the wrong lessons. They say that the reason Rand didn’t pull it off is because he departed too much from the script. He should have been more upfront about his libertarianism. He should have been more aggressive in pushing a peaceful foreign policy and civil liberties. He should have been more radical on domestic politics...Whether he would be a bit higher in the polls than he is now is hard to say. But this much is true: a libertarian cannot win the Republican nomination...Ron’s support had a firm and impenetrable glass ceiling, simply because of the views of the typical Republican voter.

Precisely

If Rand had gone hardcore libertarian, he might be sitting at 10% right now; but that would be his ceiling, as he would have alienated everyone else (as did Ron).

He had to take a shot at broadening the base; there was nothing to lose.

liberty is not a popular position among Republican voters. That he fell further in the polls the more open he was is a demonstration of that.

The complete package isn't popular, but parts of it are.

Economic liberty is almost universally popular within the GOP, to the point that even its opponents have to pay it lip service.

In the GOP, libertarians must focus on economics, largely setting aside/moderating on issues of personal liberty and war - assuming they want to succeed.

...similarly, if a libertarian were running in the Dem Party, he'd have to focus on personal liberty and war, keeping his economic views to himself.

Keep that mind as you think through this. Can you get the nomination by opposing foreign interventions, calling for dramatic military cuts, or aggressively opposing the social fascism of the religious right, by directly taking on the whole ruling class and their sources of power and money? There’s no way.

Indeed, but it's quite different with economic issues.

Anyone who appears "soft on defense" or "liberal" on social issues will be publicly tarred and feathered.

Not so with someone proposing a reduction of the role of government in the economy (even a radical one), because that's the official party line.

Party elites will generally oppose pro-market reformers behind the scenes, but they cannot attack an advocate of laissez faire qua advocate of laissez faire.

But do we need to wait to realize liberty until a majority of the population has come around to the case for the full libertarian loaf? If we believe that, we are living an illusion, and there is a good case for despair. It is not going to happen.

A majority of people will never be informed libertarians, just as they'll never be informed socialists or informed fascists or informed anything.

The goal is not to get everyone to read Mises (the socialists don't get everyone to read Keynes, do they?).

The goal is to get them to vote for our guy.

Contemplate the difference between the two...

Educating the masses is impossible by the nature of the masses.

Propagandizing them into voting for our guy is in principle quite easy (our opponents do it every election cycle).

The problem is that we don't have their money, their control of the media, etc.

But our position isn't hopeless, just difficult; political upsets by outsiders can and do happen from time to time.

This is why I’m much more interested in the micro-strategies of reform, challenging system of compulsion and control through technological innovation and revolutionary entrepreneurship.

No, there will be no meaningful enlargement of the sphere of liberty through "counter-economic" strategies.

I'm not devoting my life to bitcoin so we can realize a half of 1% increase in the incidence of tax evasion.

:rolleyes:

Given the existence of democratic government, our best shot is to try to maximize our influence over it via electoral politics.
 
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A majority of people will never be informed libertarians, just as they'll never be informed socialists or informed fascists or informed anything.

The goal is not to get everyone to read Mises (the socialists don't get everyone to read Keynes, do they?).

The goal is to get them to vote for our guy.

Contemplate the difference between the two...

Educating the masses is impossible by the nature of the masses.

Propagandizing them into voting for our guy is in principle quite easy (our opponents do it every election cycle).

This. Truth.
 
So why isn't our guy wiping the floor with these morons? He is our guy, isn't he?

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A majority of people will never be informed libertarians, just as they'll never be informed socialists or informed fascists or informed anything.

The goal is not to get everyone to read Mises (the socialists don't get everyone to read Keynes, do they?).

The goal is to get them to vote for our guy.

Contemplate the difference between the two...

Educating the masses is impossible by the nature of the masses.

Propagandizing them into voting for our guy is in principle quite easy (our opponents do it every election cycle).

The problem is that we don't have their money, their control of the media, etc.

But our position isn't hopeless, just difficult; political upsets by outsiders can and do happen from time to time.
 
Maybe Liberty is antithetical to government and running as a Liberty President just does not compute in people's heads like an oxymoron.

I kind of wish Rand tried more Trump style rhetoric or even some of Trump's positions. Essentially running to be our Benevolent Dictator. Yeah that sounds nuts, but he's running to be leader of country that's completely nuts.
 
Rand needs to step down from the ivory tower and start kicking some ass. Nobody will offer him the POTUS position because he is smart or has the best plan. He needs to fight for this. He needs to start ridiculing these morons instead of engaging in a debate with them.
 
He had to take a shot at broadening the base; there was nothing to lose.

And we see how that worked out.

Valuable lesson learned.

The OP is correct: freedom is not popular.

Oh sure, there may be narrow bands of support for freedom to engage in whatever particular flavor of vice that suits you: smoking dope, buggery, killing your unborn children, guns, "free expression, whatever.

But "across the board", broad based freedom, economically sound monetary and fiscal policy along with non-interventionism?

Pfff, you got better chance of seeing God, than electing a president in favor of that.
 
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