KS Liberty Candidate Official Announcement!!

Roxi

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As previously mentioned I have a friend who decided to run for Governor of Kansas. She is a member of the Libertarian Party, and is running as such. After the SOS filing became finalized she got a bit excited and we put a rush on things. Bear with us as we finish developing the site and social media pages. I am SO proud to be a part of her campaign staff and web development team. (Though with all my other jobs, projects, and kids I think I need a vacation soon.)

Please visit and share the site and pages. Keep in mind there is still some tweaking to do on these things but she wanted an early launch so we made it happen.


http://www.vote4kansas.com

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Vote4Kansas


The forums will be membership only with a $10 contribution required for participation. (anyone can read)
 
Cool. Running ideas campaigns can be fun. Enjoy all of the media coverage. Make sure to have a bunch of short pro-liberty quotes ready to give to the media. That might be the most important part of the campaign.
 
Cool. Running ideas campaigns can be fun. Enjoy all of the media coverage. Make sure to have a bunch of short pro-liberty quotes ready to give to the media. That might be the most important part of the campaign.


Thanks Keith, that's exactly the type of feedback I was hoping for. :)
 
LP? Another wasted campaign. Maybe the LP should try winning Dog Catcher first before trying the governorship.


That's a wonderful attitude you have, perhaps you shouldn't waste it here, and go spread your positivity on the streets. Or run for something yourself.
 
My suggestions are that she should have her own website dedicated to her causes and campaign, even though vote4kansas is a good domain name. And she should have an active twitter account. I can't judge her facebook presence because I don't use it.

Good luck.
 
That's a wonderful attitude you have, perhaps you shouldn't waste it here, and go spread your positivity on the streets. Or run for something yourself.

Run as a GOP candidate to push the party more libertarian, instead of wasting time with a LOSER, good for nothing, underachieving party like the LP.
 
Roxi, I realize this is your friend, but you posted this on a public forum, so expect others to be critical of your friend as a candidate.

I believe, your friend is illustrative of why the LP is a joke as a political party and movement. For one, they let anyone run for office. Let's look at the candidate:

She has an Associates Degree, and has been in the workforce for around 10 years in retail sales and management, as a waitress, cook, restaurant manager, nanny, and substitute teacher. Not really a stunning resume. Kansas has an annual budget of over $25 billion and employs over 80,000 persons. There is nothing in her experience that even remotely suggests she is qualified for the job. Sure she has an interest in politics and has served as a county chair for the LP. But that is akin to someone going to NASA and wanting to be an astronaut because they like watching Star Trek.

Now Grant Nelson, the guy running for Lt Gov isn't spectacular either. According to his bio he "currently works for a Hutchinson-based software company, providing technical support and training for small medical clinics in Kansas and surrounding states". It is easy to find which company that is and looking at the "Leadership" link on their website, Grant is no where to be found. I'm sure he has a nice job, and is probably very good at it, but again what in his background qualifies him for this position? Yes, he's been involved in third party politics for years, but again we are back to the astronaut analogy I used earlier.

The last time an LP candidate won election to a state legislature seat was 1984. Since then the handful of state seats they have "won" were fusion candidates (i.e. the candidate appeared on both the LP ballot and the GOP ballot). And to make matter worse, the majority of the LP folks who have won local offices (school board, township offices, mayors, etc) won in non-partisan races. As a political party, the LP is a colossal failure, and in large part the reason is because they waste time, money and resources on letting "anyone who wants to run" on the ballot in a major state wide contest. What is sad, is that there are people who will part with their hard earned money to fund this campaign.

If you friend was truly desirous of bringing her ideas to the state, she should follow the path that is successful and has worked for countless libertarian minded folks across the country. Get involved at the local level in the GOP, run for a local office and then translate that into a state legislature seat.
 
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Some of us live in areas where the Republican Party is the nazi party. Joining them accomplishes nothing.
 
Some of us live in areas where the Republican Party is the nazi party. Joining them accomplishes nothing.

It accomplishes far more than running on the LP ticket. If a libertarian wants to win elected office at the state or federal level, there is one path and it is through the GOP. The GOP is a vehicle and little more, and this is proven over and over again as libertarian minded folks have won state and federal seats as Republicans. On the contrary, no LP candidate has won a seat at the state level since 1984 and never at the federal level.
 
The last time an LP candidate won election to a state legislature seat was 1984. Since then the handful of state seats they have "won" were fusion candidates (i.e. the candidate appeared on both the LP ballot and the GOP ballot). And to make matter worse, the majority of the LP folks who have won local offices (school board, township offices, mayors, etc) won in non-partisan races. As a political party, the LP is a colossal failure, and in large part the reason is because they waste time, money and resources on letting "anyone who wants to run" on the ballot in a major state wide contest. What is sad, is that there are people who will part with their hard earned money to fund this campaign.

If you friend was truly desirous of bringing her ideas to the state, she should follow the path that is successful and has worked for countless libertarian minded folks across the country. Get involved at the local level in the GOP, run for a local office and then translate that into a state legislature seat.
Didn't Representative Steve Vaillancourt win election in the New Hampshire House of Representatives as a Libertarian in 2000?
 
It accomplishes far more than running on the LP ticket. If a libertarian wants to win elected office at the state or federal level, there is one path and it is through the GOP. The GOP is a vehicle and little more, and this is proven over and over again as libertarian minded folks have won state and federal seats as Republicans. On the contrary, no LP candidate has won a seat at the state level since 1984 and never at the federal level.

The other option is the Democratic Party. Libertarians have a strong tradition of being elected as Democrats in New Hampshire. In 2012, for example, 3 libertarians were elected as state reps in NH by running as Democrats.
 
Constructive criticism is expected and encouraged. Negative blanket poo pooing isn't necessary. Just sayin.

Personally, I think that it's important to continue to fight to bring the LP into the light as a legitimate party. I also think that plenty of people are more likely to vote for someone who has never held an official office rather than an established party hack.
 
Didn't Representative Steve Vaillancourt win election in the New Hampshire House of Representatives as a Libertarian in 2000?

Might be the exception, but I think he was a fusion candidate. If I remember him correctly didn't he hold his office and lose a primary for a higher seat, then have to re run for his existing office, then he changed to Republican. If that is the case, then the LP was just a place holder for him - not like they fielded their own candidate from scratch. He is a Republican now.
 
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Constructive criticism is expected and encouraged. Negative blanket poo pooing isn't necessary. Just sayin.

Personally, I think that it's important to continue to fight to bring the LP into the light as a legitimate party. I also think that plenty of people are more likely to vote for someone who has never held an official office rather than an established party hack.

I think it is very constructive. You have two people running for office that are way under qualified, in a party that no one pays any attention to. It's a lesson to those that read this forum what not to do, and what not to donate time and money to. Very educational in that regard.

Honestly, the LP has had 40 years to establish themselves as a legitimate party. That ship sailed a long time ago, and year after year they keep running the same failed playbook. What's that line by Einstein, "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results". That pretty much sums up the LP.
 
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Might be the exception, but I think he was a fusion candidate. If I remember him correctly didn't he hold his office and lose a primary for a higher seat, then have to re run for his existing office, then he changed to Republican. If that is the case, then the LP was just a place holder for him - not like they fielded their own candidate from scratch. He is a Republican now.
I've never seen any evidence to suggest that. However, if you have some, I'd love to see it! Please share. Folks here talked about this in 2012. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...side-the-GOP&p=4525979&viewfull=1#post4525979
 
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