Just got this from the campaign

A. Havnes

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This came in my mailbox yesterday, so for those of you who are assuming that you'll just try again in 2016, are wondering if Ron Paul is in it til the end, or if you feel we're finished now and you should give up, this is for you. It's not over until it's over, and I'd like to share this letter with you. Emphasis in bold is mine.

Dear (ME),

We have not yet begun to fight.

Most of our opponents for the Republican nomination for President are long gone. Our grassroots campaign and message have kept us in the race, kept us winning delegates, and kept our fight for liberty moving forward.

I have one goal left, and it is one for which I will need your advice - and if you agree - your support.

I won't mince words. Without you behind me, there is no way I can take this fight all the way to the GOP Convention in August.

So I am asking today: WIll you fight with me all the way to the finish line?

I've enclosed and URGENT SUPPORT BALLOT, where you can give me your answer. I hope you will fill it out and send it back to me right away.

And if your answer is YES, fight to the very end, then I hope you will also include your most generous contribution today.

I always believe you should have the whole picture, as one of my most loyal supporters. So here it is: Our campaign will not have enough delegates to win the Republican nomination on the first ballot in August.

But - and this is very important - it is also very possible NO ONE will have enough delegates. And then the fun really begins.


There is no way to predict what will happen at that point. But I can tell you this - the GOP will have to hear our message. They will have to hear our voices. And they may well finally come to their senses and push our campaign over the top.

You see, people are waking up to our message of limited government, sound money, and a constitutional foreign policy. In fact, our views are now really mainstream among Republicans.

And in the past few years, our government has helped our cause by making it abundantly clear how right our views are.

We spent the past few years talking about an out-of-control Fed - well, you and I saw what happened with the bailouts and the doubling of our money supply.

I warned of our out-of-control government, with its 500 billion dollar deficits. Even I never imagined those would TRIPLE in just 2 years.

Our nation is now truly on a path that will cause the very destruction of our economy, our currency, and our way of life, if you and I don't act today.

The federal budget deficit is now over 1.5 trillion dollars per year. That was the ENTIRE BUDGET just 20 years ago.

Thanks to the same old tax-and-spend politicians - Big Government politicians of both parties - you and I have accumulated over 15 TRILLION dollars in debt - not counting future entitlement spending that's already "locked in."

The interest alone is over 33 billion dollars a month!

But instead of cutting spending, our so-called "leaders" are simply using the same old smoke and mirror tricks - whistling past the graveyard of our economy.

Like you, I understand that all the madness we're witnessing right now in Washington isn't just an attack on our economy.

I believe that if we fail to address our fiscal problems in the very near future, we will never recover as a nation.

This out-of-control debt isn't just an attack on our wallets - it's an attack on our liberties.

As we all know - when government grows, freedom shrinks.

I believe we need to return to the principles embedded in the United States Constitution.

That's why I want to continue to work to:

Stop the spread of socialist, Big Government health care;

Stop the growth of federal spending, restrictive regulations, and government interference in our lives;

Audit the Federal Reserve, which I believe will serve as an important first step toward finally ending the Fed once and for all;

Ensure the federal government returns to its constitutional limits by eliminating departments and agencies that are not authorized by the Constitution;

Ensure a new, more humble, constitutional foreign policy for our nation. We cannot be the world's policeman. We should not engage in "Nation-Building." We cannot afford trillion-dollar international boondoggles that cost us our lives, our fortunes, and our freedom;

Repeal Big Government schemes like the Patriot Act.

Fellow Patriot, these are all positions we can and will fight for at the Republican National Convention in August.

There is the potential that our campaign itself could prevail, and we could win a brokered convention.

But even if we do not, we can insist the Party itself adopt many of these positions as the official stances of the Party and candidates all across the country.

I can hardly tell you how important that would be - and how far our message will have come if either of these things happen.

So I am asking you to stand with me today. I am asking you to fight side by side with me for our message, our values, and our REVOLUTION.

It will take a lot more effort on my part and on the part of my staff and volunteers. And it will take at least 10 million more dollars in the next 90 days.

That is a huge undertaking. But I know I can count on you, my grassroots army, to make it happen.

Can you help our efforts move forward with your maximum possible contribution? I'd certainly appreciate it.

Needless to say, I've donated and will send my envelope back today. Do you hear your marching orders? Make the brokered convention happen! Force the GOP to take us seriously, and make sure our nation doesn't head down an irreversable path to destruction!

I've said before this race is crucial because the damage that could be done is beyond repair, and that the natural answer to a collapse wouldn't be like how the Soviets reacted, who have begun to reverse their socialist traditions; it would be more globalization. Think seriously about that before you throw in the towel.
 
Right. This should please our lovely resident "realists".

Now everyone becomes delegates for other candidates and pray for a brokered convention. Sounds fun.

Remember, sign up to volunteer and sign up to become a delegate on the campaign site: http://www.ronpaul2012.com
 
Onward! We have it easy compared to those that stood with Washington at Valley Forge in the freezing cold with inadequate attire. Invest in liberty now while the money still has some purchasing power left.
 
The big question is if Gingrich and Santorum delegates will choose Paul over Romney on the second ballot. And perhaps equally important is how many bound delegates actually want to vote for Paul but cannot on the first ballot (e.g., states like Nevada and Idaho).
 
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The money IS NOT being used on a "delegate strategy"

We can't even get money to send automated voicemails to our list of donors telling them how to file to be a delegate($20 to hit our whole list). Instead the campaign wastes the time of 10 volunteers making calls, and buys them $60 worth of pizza.

To pursue the delegate strategy requires YOU to PERSONALLY get involved.
 
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Does anyone have a donations to date for the campaing? He's talking $112k a day or roughly 3/4 of millon a week. Didn't the last money bomb only do $2-3m over a 2 week time?

A brokered convention doesn't give us a chance to claim the nomination without wins. It does give us a chance to negotiate where we may or may not get the results we all so desperatley want. Is this the best way to spend money or should we be investing in House and Senate seats? I'm all about the message. My guess is we have 3-5 yrs left in this house of cards.
 
Yeah, the email sounds great BUT where do the actions line up with those words? Constantly feel strung along.
 
I got a letter like this back in 08 ... Not to throw cold water on the situation, but not long after I sent a check, he dropped out of the race.

Sending another check NOW, and hoping we don't have a repeat.
 
Does anyone have a donations to date for the campaing? He's talking $112k a day or roughly 3/4 of millon a week. Didn't the last money bomb only do $2-3m over a 2 week time?

A brokered convention doesn't give us a chance to claim the nomination without wins. It does give us a chance to negotiate where we may or may not get the results we all so desperatley want. Is this the best way to spend money or should we be investing in House and Senate seats? I'm all about the message. My guess is we have 3-5 yrs left in this house of cards.

The money is being used to run ads and send mailings in the remaining states. I think Ron Paul is still looking for a win somewhere.

It'll be necessary to get some delegates for Gingrich and Santorum to jump aboard the Ron Paul bandwagon. To help, I've written up a document meant to appeal to socially conservative delegates voting for Santorum. This will make them think twice about their candidate, and I've used it already to get some of our delegates thinking about Ron Paul. http://www.mediafire.com/?i08i06oqblq3hu4
 
we need to plan money bombs, no doubt about that. I suggest we get some threads going and dates, and settle on a few by the week. we can't afford to sit here and argue anymore. We do need to keep the campaign funded, but I don't see us hitting ten million unfortunately
 
Kansas is up next...let's do this!

If Kansas is up next, then Ron should be in Kansas until the end of voting. It's that simple now. You have all the data from the exit polling. Rally your base and reach out to seniors and white evangelicals etc...
 
we need to plan money bombs, no doubt about that. I suggest we get some threads going and dates, and settle on a few by the week. we can't afford to sit here and argue anymore. We do need to keep the campaign funded, but I don't see us hitting ten million unfortunately
And herein lies the problem that plagued him in 08

I don't mean to be down, but I'm not sure we can fund him to the end, and money is not as freely available as it was in 08 :(

Send what you can, and hope for the best !!

I like surprises, and citizens are always capable of creating surprising outcomes.
 
The big question is if Gingrich and Santorum delegates will choose Paul over Romney on the second ballot. And perhaps equally important is how many bound delegates actually want to vote for Paul but cannot on the first ballot (e.g., states like Nevada and Idaho).

That's my main concern:

Let's say the delegates entering August roughly go as:

Romney 900
Santorum 700
Paul 400
Gingrich 200

...Won't Ricky and Mitt work things out on their own and still just forget us for the second vote? Or another "out" for the establishment is if Newt and Mitt collectively add up to 1144, because they could certainly cut deals (Newt is THE biggest sell out ever).

We need to lay the delegate ground so at the very least Newt and Mitt can't combine to 1144. that only leaves Ricky to cut deals with besides us and if he's that close he won't want to just lay it down. Newt is only still in this race so that HE can be king maker in addition to Paul.

I still don't see how we can convince enough delegates to come our way to get Paul to 1144, seeing as much much we are beloved by this party of the overly-religious elderly. :rolleyes:
 
we need to plan money bombs, no doubt about that. I suggest we get some threads going and dates, and settle on a few by the week. we can't afford to sit here and argue anymore. We do need to keep the campaign funded, but I don't see us hitting ten million unfortunately

Maybe we do a Puerto Rico aimed MB to try and win that contest? Problem is, you give money to the campaign for a good purpose and they buy ads in Michigan. I think 2016 will see the vast organization of Super PAC's pushing us to better strategy. RPFs could have their own SP and take a poll on how to best spend it. Each early state could have their own SPAC with the intent to spend the money IN THAT STATE ONLY and then donors can give the the state they feel strategically best suits the effort.

We've learned the campaign makes big mistakes in this area, so I look forward to a movement that spreads the power around a bit and campaign funding only goes to travel and such, while SPACs do all the ads.
 
That's my main concern:

Let's say the delegates entering August roughly go as:

Romney 900
Santorum 700
Paul 400
Gingrich 200

...Won't Ricky and Mitt work things out on their own and still just forget us for the second vote? Or another "out" for the establishment is if Newt and Mitt collectively add up to 1144, because they could certainly cut deals (Newt is THE biggest sell out ever).

We need to lay the delegate ground so at the very least Newt and Mitt can't combine to 1144. that only leaves Ricky to cut deals with besides us and if he's that close he won't want to just lay it down. Newt is only still in this race so that HE can be king maker in addition to Paul.

I still don't see how we can convince enough delegates to come our way to get Paul to 1144, seeing as much much we are beloved by this party of the overly-religious elderly. :rolleyes:

make it clear in the only way they would understand; nominate Romney and it's 3rd party; 3rd party = Obama term 2. make the bastards have 2 choices : Paul or Obama.
 
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