John Bolton: Edward Snowden 'Ought To Swing From A Tall Oak Tree'

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John Bolton: Edward Snowden 'Ought To Swing From A Tall Oak Tree'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/17/john-bolton-edward-snowden_n_4461196.html

Former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton spoke out against former government contractor Edward Snowden for leaking classified details on the National Security Agency's controversial surveillance practices, suggesting Snowden should "swing from a tall oak tree" as punishment.

Speaking on Fox News on Monday, Bolton, who served under former President George W. Bush, characterized Snowden's actions as treason, and urged against any public talk of amnesty.

"I must say absent some other important piece of information, it has to be one of the dumbest things that I've seen in a long time, to be speculating about it publicly, even if they are contemplating a deal with Snowden some kind of amnesty," Bolton said. "The last thing that people ought to be doing is speculating about it publicly. It will inevitably make it a political football and enhance Snowden's bargaining power."

Bolton continued, "My view is that Snowden committed treason, he ought to be convicted of that, and then he ought to swing from a tall oak tree. But even if you don’t believe that, if you’re gonna say anything publicly, that is closer to what you should be saying to enhance our own bargaining leverage."

Bolton's remarks came in response to NSA official Rick Ledgett's suggestion it is "worth having a conversation about" amnesty for Snowden.

"I would need assurances that the remainder of the data could be secured and my bar for those assurances would be very high," Ledgett told CBS News during an interview that aired on Sunday's "60 Minutes." "It would be more than just an assertion on his part."

NSA Director Keith Alexander, however, disagrees with Ledgett.

"I think people have to be held accountable for their actions," Alexander told CBS. "Because what we don't want is the next person to do the same thing, race off to Hong Kong and to Moscow with another set of data knowing they can strike the same deal."
 
Why are they pushing this amnesty for Snowden talk lately?

1. He gave up all his data to Greenwald already, he has no data left to "trade".
2. Im pretty sure he does not want to come back to the US.
3. If he did go full retard and came back to the US he would be taken care of by "a lone gunman, acting alone and definitely NOT part of the FBI/CIA/NSA"
 
Why are they pushing this amnesty for Snowden talk lately?

1. He gave up all his data to Greenwald already, he has no data left to "trade".
2. Im pretty sure he does not want to come back to the US.
3. If he did go full retard and came back to the US he would be taken care of by "a lone gunman, acting alone and definitely NOT part of the FBI/CIA/NSA"

Why?

To make 3 easier.
 
"I think people have to be held accountable for their actions," Alexander told CBS.
That might be the first time I've agreed with that sniveling, fear mongering, baby talking piece of dogshit. Snowden revealed to the world the depths of the NSA lawbreaking. He kept his oath while Alexander, Clapper and others proved to be the worst kind of traitors. They are the domestic enemies that were warned about. Some accountability for their actions would be great to see. Bolton is just another chickenhawk National Guard joiner while also being a CFR member and PNAC criminal.
 
Why?

To make 3 easier.


To Snowden:

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They have to know he wouldnt be that dumb to take the bait. Right?

You'd sure think so.

It might be to put pressure on Putin.

Although that's pretty dumb as well.

Say what you want about Putin, the man is tough as nails and seems to enjoy nothing more than telling the Western ruling class to go fuck its collective selves.
 
It's funny how both Bolton and Ledgett (the guy who suggested amnesty for Snowden in return for verifiable "assurances" from him) speak as if it was a foregone conclusion that Snowden would unconditionally leap at any opportunity to get back in the good graces of the US government. The only difference between them is that Bolton does not want to give Snowden the opportunity to do so, while Ledgett does.

Considering what Snowden did and why he did it (and what he's been willing to go through as a consequence), what makes Bolton or Ledgett (or any of that ilk) imagine that Snowden would even want "amnesty" (given the terms & conditions under which it would be offered)?

Here's what makes them imagine it: the presumptuous and uncomprehending hubris of people like Bolton and Ledgett, who are utterly incapable of grasping the integrity and dedication to principles that are required in order for people like Snowden to do what they do. They just don't know how to deal with it. Being unquestioningly faithful lackeys to the system, they can't imagine doing such things themselves - and so they can't comprehend why anyone else would do such things. Nor can they comprehend the possibility that anyone who did do such things might refuse a "gracious" offer of forgiveness and "amnesty" from the system Bolton and Ledgett serve ...
 
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It's funny how both Bolton and Ledgett (the guy who suggested amnesty for Snowden in return for verifiable "assurances" from him) speak as if it was a foregone conclusion that Snowden would unconditionally leap at any opportunity to get back in the good graces of the US government. The only difference between them is that Bolton does not want to give Snowden the opportunity to do so, while Ledgett does.

Considering what Snowden did and why he did it (and what he's been willing to go through as a consequence), what makes Bolton or Ledgett (or any of that ilk) imagine that Snowden would even want "amnesty" (given the terms & conditions under which it would be offered)?

Here's what makes them imagine it: the presumptuous and uncomprehending hubris of people like Bolton and Ledgett, who are utterly incapable of grasping the integrity and dedication to principles that are required in order for people like Snowden to do what they do. They just don't know how to deal with it. Being unquestioningly faithful lackeys to the system, they can't imagine doing such things themselves - and so they can't comprehend why anyone else would do such things. Nor can they comprehend the possibility that anyone who did do such things might refuse a "gracious" offer of forgiveness and "amnesty" from the system Bolton and Ledgett serve ...
 
Bolton is a pretty sick guy. Hanging a guy for rightly exposing the Obama administration?

His choice of words seems to have racist connotations too.
 
NSA Director Keith Alexander, however, disagrees with Ledgett.

"I think people have to be held accountable for their actions," Alexander told CBS. "Because what we don't want is the next person to do the same thing, race off to Hong Kong and to Moscow with another set of data knowing they can strike the same deal."

He's got a point. I think people have to be held accountable for their actions too. Because what we don't want is the next NSA Director to do the same thing, violate the privacy of every United States citizen knowing they can do so without punishment.
 
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John Bolton: Edward Snowden 'Ought To Swing From A Tall Oak Tree'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/17/john-bolton-edward-snowden_n_4461196.html

Former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton spoke out against former government contractor Edward Snowden for leaking classified details on the National Security Agency's controversial surveillance practices, suggesting Snowden should "swing from a tall oak tree" as punishment.

Speaking on Fox News on Monday, Bolton, who served under former President George W. Bush, characterized Snowden's actions as treason, and urged against any public talk of amnesty.

"I must say absent some other important piece of information, it has to be one of the dumbest things that I've seen in a long time, to be speculating about it publicly, even if they are contemplating a deal with Snowden some kind of amnesty," Bolton said. "The last thing that people ought to be doing is speculating about it publicly. It will inevitably make it a political football and enhance Snowden's bargaining power."

Bolton continued, "My view is that Snowden committed treason, he ought to be convicted of that, and then he ought to swing from a tall oak tree. But even if you don’t believe that, if you’re gonna say anything publicly, that is closer to what you should be saying to enhance our own bargaining leverage."

Bolton's remarks came in response to NSA official Rick Ledgett's suggestion it is "worth having a conversation about" amnesty for Snowden.

"I would need assurances that the remainder of the data could be secured and my bar for those assurances would be very high," Ledgett told CBS News during an interview that aired on Sunday's "60 Minutes." "It would be more than just an assertion on his part."

NSA Director Keith Alexander, however, disagrees with Ledgett.

"I think people have to be held accountable for their actions," Alexander told CBS. "Because what we don't want is the next person to do the same thing, race off to Hong Kong and to Moscow with another set of data knowing they can strike the same deal."



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