Is Ron Paul in 1st place for delegates?

[gerryb]

Why do we keep getting steamrolled by the establishment? Because they outnumber us. How do I know? Because they keep beating us in primaries and caucuses. You want to beat them in an election, you have to get more people to vote for your guy than their guy.

So why are "Tea Party" people getting elected into leadership positions, such as chairmen, state committeemen and women, rules committee's, candidate selection committee's etc. and we aren't.

We outnumber them, don't we? Your focusing too much on the Cult of Personality and not enough on local politics.

 

[erowe1]

We outnumber them, don't we?

Nope.

 

[gerryb]

Nope.

Look at Iowa. In the precinct I was in, not a single person raised there hand to challenge the Chairman for his position. Not a single person challenged the Secretary.

In every state we have the numbers to replace the entire party, just not the desire.

How many votes would it take for you to replace your District Chairman?

 

[erowe1]

Look at Iowa. In the precinct I was in, not a single person raised there hand to challenge the Chairman for his position. Not a single person challenged the Secretary.

In every state we have the numbers to replace the entire party, just not the desire.

How many votes would it take for you to replace your District Chairman?

It doesn't work that way in my state. Here only the precinct chairs can vote on county chairs, and I'm not even sure about district chairs, but it might be the county chairs who elect the district chairs. I think we'd need ballpark 50 precinct chairs to change who our county chair is. You're right that it takes not just the numbers but also the desire. I am a precinct chair, but I'm personally not inclined to become anything higher than that in the party because I don't want to have to support candidates I don't like, and I wouldn't expect most other RP supporters to either, and it would have no impact on RNC delegates anyway, since that's entirely separate, and that's what we're talking about here.

 

[gerryb]

I think we'd need ballpark 50 precinct chairs to change who our county chair is. You're right that it takes not just the numbers but also the desire. I am a precinct chair,

So how many votes did it take for you to win the chair? How many votes did RP get in the straw vote in that area? In adjacent areas where the precinct chair isn't a RP supporter?.. How many donors to the RP campaign were there that did not show up to the meeting that elects precinct chairs?

Those are the things I'm looking at in all the states.. In most of the cases, our participation rates of supporters to go to meetings and decide these things is very low, so we do not win them. People on RPF talk about RP supporters walking up snow covered mountains to vote, and this being a "Revolution".. But it's just not true where it matters.

and it would have no impact on RNC delegates anyway, since that's entirely separate, and that's what we're talking about here.

In your state, maybe not directly. But the extra organization of having additional precinct chairs shepherd the new support could make the difference. Or a story that a slate of 50 precinct chairs endorsed Ron Paul, etc.