Iranian official threatens to seize British oil tanker

[Origanalist]

Nope I am not in favor giving them a reason, I've said multiple times I would be willing to forget about history if they forget about history. I just won't pretend like they don't want to kill us because they do, and for justified reasons.

They don't all want to kill us anymore than all of us want to kill them.

 

[nikcers]

They don't all want to kill us anymore than all of us want to kill them.

We don't even have control over our government and NGO's, I am not going to pretend like they have a leash on all of their dogs. If they call their dogs off, we can talk about calling our dogs off.

 

[Swordsmyth]

They don't all want to kill us anymore than all of us want to kill them.

Does that do anything more to protect us than the fact that we didn't all want to invade Lybia protected Ghaddafi?

 

[Origanalist]

Does that do anything more to protect us than the fact that we didn't all want to invade Lybia protected Ghaddafi?

Of course not, is that any reason to support going down the same path again?

 

[UWDude]

They don't all want to kill us anymore than all of us want to kill them.

Wrong. Iran is being bullied by the United States, not visa versa.
Iran has every reason to want to destroy the United States.
I don't blame them.

Once they announce they have nukes, and get the respect they deserve, America will have to change it's tone, and there will be more peace, and probably even domestic change and liberalization in Iran.

But America doesn't want Iran to have nukes, because America does not want to have to respect them, not because America is afraid Iran will nuke the world.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Of course not, is that any reason to support going down the same path again?

No and I don't.

 

[Origanalist]

Wrong. Iran is being bullied by the United States, not visa versa.
Iran has every reason to want to destroy the United States.
I don't blame them.

Once they announce they have nukes, and get the respect they deserve, America will have to change it's tone, and there will be more peace, and probably even domestic change and liberalization in Iran.

But America doesn't want Iran to have nukes, because America does not want to have to respect them, not because America is afraid Iran will nuke the world.

You're talking about governments. You're talking about shitstain power grubbers. I'm talking about people.

 

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Wrong. Iran is being bullied by the United States, not visa versa.
Iran has every reason to want to destroy the United States.
I don't blame them.

Once they announce they have nukes, and get the respect they deserve, America will have to change it's tone, and there will be more peace, and probably even domestic change and liberalization in Iran.

But America doesn't want Iran to have nukes, because America does not want to have to respect them, not because America is afraid Iran will nuke the world.

only the god emperor of the united states gets to use nukes, god damn it.

 

[pcosmar]

Once they announce they have nukes, .

Which is never,, as they have repeatedly had no interest in Nukes or any indiscriminate weapon of mass destruction...

They have experienced and survived such , and are Morally and Legally opposed to their use.

They have impressive Targeted Conventional weapons though.

 

[UWDude]

Which is never,, as they have repeatedly had no interest in Nukes or any indiscriminate weapon of mass destruction...

They have experienced and survived such , and are Morally and Legally opposed to their use.

They have impressive Targeted Conventional weapons though.

Saddam's American Chemical Weapons almost broke them last time.

The power of a nuke alone makes enemies know they will never actually win. No matter how many conventional weapons they have.

Iran already has nukes, and have done a test. BAM They are sand bagging. Israel doesn't, as I noted earlier. I've always known they were bluffing. Iran has never been afraid of the nukes they knew Israel doesn't have. American nukes are the issue.

 

[UWDude]

You're talking about governments. You're talking about $#@!stain power grubbers. I'm talking about people.

If American had Iranian Nuclear wraheads pointed at them, and sanctions punched on them, they would be a hell of a lot more nationalistic than they are now. Tribalism forges under threat, splinters under peace.

 

[Origanalist]

Saddam's American Chemical Weapons almost broke them last time.

The power of a nuke alone makes enemies know they will never actually win. No matter how many conventional weapons they have.

Iran already has nukes, and have done a test. BAM They are sand bagging. Israel doesn't, as I noted earlier. I've always known they were bluffing. Iran has never been afraid of the nukes they knew Israel doesn't have. American nukes are the issue.

Lol

 

[Ender]

Saddam's American Chemical Weapons almost broke them last time.

The power of a nuke alone makes enemies know they will never actually win. No matter how many conventional weapons they have.

Iran already has nukes, and have done a test. BAM They are sand bagging. Israel doesn't, as I noted earlier. I've always known they were bluffing. Iran has never been afraid of the nukes they knew Israel doesn't have. American nukes are the issue.

Israel has an estimated 200-400 nuclear warheads- been so for a long time.

 

[UWDude]

Israel has an estimated 200-400 nuclear warheads- been so for a long time.

Vanunu had a very dark tan when he was released from prison.
I remember watching long long time ago, and thinking "he looks like somebody who has been beach bumming, not someone who was in solitary confinement for 11 years, as the Israeli government claimed"

 

[pcosmar]

Lol

my thought exactly.

 

[Zippyjuan]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48956547

Threat level raised to 'critical' for UK ships in Iranian waters

The UK has raised the threat to British shipping in Iranian waters in the Gulf to the highest level - where the risk of attack is "critical".

The step was taken on Tuesday, amid growing tensions in the region.

On Wednesday, Iranian boats tried to impede a British oil tanker in the region - before being driven off by a Royal Navy ship, the MoD said.

Iran had threatened to retaliate for the seizure of one of its own tankers, but denied any attempted seizure.

The Department for Transport said it regularly provided security advice to UK ships in high-risk areas.

The threat level means British ships are advised not to enter Iranian waters, BBC defence correspondent Jonathan Beale said.

Boats believed to belong to Iran's Islamic Revolution Guard Corps (IRGC) approached the British Heritage tanker and tried to bring it to a halt as it was moving out of the Gulf into the Strait of Hormuz.

HMS Montrose, a British frigate shadowing the BP-owned tanker, was forced to move between the three boats and the ship, a Ministry of Defence spokesman said.

He described the Iranians' actions as "contrary to international law".

Guns on HMS Montrose were trained on the Iranian boats as they were ordered to back off, US media reported. The boats heeded the warning and no shots were fired.

Last week, British Royal Marines helped the authorities in Gibraltar seize an Iranian tanker because of evidence it was carrying oil to Syria in breach of EU sanctions.

A spokesman for the Royal Gibraltar Police said they had arrested the captain and chief officer of the Iranian tanker on Thursday, on suspicion of breaching EU sanctions, but neither had been charged.

more at link.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48956547

more at link.

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