Iowans for tax relief in danger of losing tax emempt status

foraneagle2

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Iowa Dept. of Revenue
v. Ed Failor,
Iowans For Tax Relief, et al.



I was expecting this morning to get a meetup on the schedule and got hit with this news -
it will take a bit of time to catch up now - but I'll have something to send off to MSNBC's Chris Matthews now as well.

First, Ron Paul did just great - as usual - with the short 5 minutes with MSNBC's Chris Jansing yesterday about this time of day.

And Rudy Giuliani was in Des Moines today for a "Policy Address".

But most importantly, regarding the exclusion by Iowans For Tax Relief on June 30th -

I contacted the Iowa Republican Party to ask to talk to Chuck Laudner, Executive Director -
[email protected] - who was in meeting but Eric Johansen explained that they could only contact this organization AFTER the event because they are a nonprofit.

But as a nonprofit they can NOT endorse political candidates under Iowa statutory law - so the Iowans For Tax Relief's exclusion of Ron Paul with the inclusion of Brownback, Gilmore, Huckabee, Romney, Tancredo, and T. Thompson - is in violation of Iowa nonprofit Code. They seem to also be forgetting Alexander Hamilton's words in Federalist Papers No. 83 in Muscatine and the construction of statutes - and the legal principle of exclusio alterius in particular here to the Revised Iowa Nonprofit Corporation Act - Chapter 504 of the Iowa Code.

I may try to get a copy of their Articles of Incorporation as public record but I truly do NOT see how they can get around the specific exclusion of Dr. Paul - it amounts to endorsing of a candidate - or specifically exclusion of an FEC filed candidate. I seriously doubt that they can try this without serious reprucussions to their nonprofit status - especially if Ron Paul WANTS to be included in their forum.

Dr. Paul did great on the Jon Stewart Show a few weeks back and also on the CSPAN coverage of his New Hampshire Public Radio - just fantastic, as well as yesterday on MSNBC's "Super Tuesday".

Keep up the great work everbuddy!


cc: contact/letter to :
David Casey
Compliance Division
Iowa Dept of Revenue
515/281-3254

Inform the compliance division of Failor's paypal fraud occurring through the website below - all the evidence needed Failor you moron - what's burning - sniff--sniff--- your toast Failor ! enjoy the forum !!!!!!

http://www.taxrelief.org/itr_pac_donation.htm
 
Excellent. Are any of our excellent friends in the Ron Paul movement lawyers?
 
Use this story, and Failor's ties to McCain (see link)

and e-mail these Iowa newspapers:

__Dallas County News__
(888) 831-9417
__Albia Newspapers__
Dave Paxton
(641) 932-7121
[email protected]
__Ames Tribune__
Dave Kraemer
(515) 232-2161 x340
[email protected]
__Atlantic News Telegraph__
Jeff Lundquist
(800) 926-6397
[email protected]
__Belle Plaine Union/South Benton Star-Press__
(319) 444-2520
[email protected]
__Belmond Independent__
(641) 444-3333
__Bloomfield Democrat__
(641) 664-2334
[email protected]
__Boone News Republican__
(888) 270-0090
[email protected]
__The Hawk Eye__
(800) 397-1708
[email protected]
__Gazette Online__
Mark Bowden
[email protected]
__Daily Iowegian__
Dan Ehl
(641) 856-6336
[email protected]
__Charles City Press__
Mark Wicks
(641) 228-3211
[email protected]
__Cherokee Chronicle Times__
Ken Ross
(712) 225-5111
[email protected]
__Clear Lake Mirror Reporter__
(641) 357-2131
[email protected]
__The Clinton Herald__
[email protected]
__SW Iowa News__
Marsha Hoffman
(712) 325-5730
[email protected]
__Cresco Times__
[email protected]
__Creston News Advertiser__
Stephani Finley
(641) 782-2141
[email protected]
__Quad Cities Online__
Jerry Taylor
(309) 757-4924
[email protected]
__River Cities Reader__
Jeff Ignatius
(563) 324-0049 x208
[email protected]
__Decorah Newspapers__
Rick Fromm
(563) 382-4221
[email protected]
__Des Moines Register__
Carolyn Washburn
(515) 284-8502
[email protected]
__Telegraph Herald__
Brian Cooper
(563) 588-5662
[email protected]
__Forest City Summit__
[email protected]
__Britt News__
[email protected]
__The Messenger__
Barbara Wallace Hughes
(800) 622-6613 x458
[email protected]
__Fort Madison Daily Democrat__
Robin Delaney
(800) 798-8819
[email protected]
__Harlan Tribune__
(800) 909-6397
[email protected]
__Humboldt Independent__
(515) 332-2514
[email protected]
__Ida County Courier__
Beth Wolterman
(712) 364-3131
[email protected]
__Record-Herald/Indianola Tribune__
[email protected]
__Iowa City Press Citizen__
[email protected]
__Times Citizen__
Kent Thompson
(800) 798-2691 x322
[email protected]
__Gate City Daily__
Steve Dunn
(800) 779-8819
[email protected]
__Journal-Express__
Steven J Woodhouse
(641) 842-2155
[email protected]
__Le Mars Daily Sentinel__
Earl Horlyk
(712) 546-7031 x19
[email protected]
__Times-Republican__
Ken Larson
(641) 753-6611
[email protected], [email protected]
__Globe Gazette__
Joe Buttweiler
(800) 421-0546
[email protected]
__Fairfield Ledger__
Vickie Tillis
(800) 369-0340
[email protected]
__Washington Evening Journal__
Linda Wenger
(800) 369-0341
[email protected]
__Muscatine Journal__
Rusty Schrader
(800) 383-3198
[email protected], [email protected]
__Newton Daily News__
Andy Karr
(641) 792-3121 x434
[email protected], [email protected]
__Osceola Sentinel-Tribune__
Gwen Tietgen
(641) 342-2131
[email protected]
__Oskaloosa Herald__
Duane Nollen
(641) 672-2581 x425
[email protected]
__Ottumwa Courier__
Judy Krieger
(641) 683-5365
[email protected]
__Sigourney News-Review__
Robin Fisher
[email protected]
__Sioux City Journal__
Larry Myhre
(712) 293-4201
[email protected]
__Villisca Review__
[email protected]
__Waukon Standard__
Jeremy Troendle
(563) 568-3431
[email protected]
__Postville Herald-Leader__
Sharon Drahn
(563) 864-3333
[email protected]
__Waterloo-Cedar Falls Courier__
Saul Shapiro
(800) 798-1741
[email protected]
__Daily Freeman-Journal__
Lori Berglund
(515) 832-4350
[email protected]
__Winterset Madisonian__
(515) 462-2101
[email protected]
 
Tax exempt status is granted by the IRS, not ny the states. Not saying I don't hink they're in violation, I am saying I think that the IRS is the entity that can yank the exemption.
 
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Right on Eagle 2!
 
I don't like to see people play dirty, but I don't like to watch people in a position to suffer either.
 
Tax exempt status is granted by the IRS, not ny the states. Not saying I don't hink they're in violation, I am saying I think that the IRS is the entity that can yank the exemption.

There are State taxes and tax codes.
 
I think this could be a big deal. He is after all and FEC filed canidate. I think it could be argued that they are endorsing anyone but Ron Paul. I am not sure if could be successful. The mere threat has a good chance to scare them.
 
Unless they say, "Vote for McCrazy" or something to that effect, I don't see a violation. There are inviting several competing candidates so there isn't even an implied endorsement for one.
 
political parties are supposed to be non-profits, correct? yet political parties endorse candidates....
just a thought.
 
political parties are supposed to be non-profits, correct? yet political parties endorse candidates....
just a thought.

Different sections of the tax code identify different types of non-profits with different kinds of rules: think tanks are 501(c)(3) organizations, lobby groups are 501(3)(4), and 527s (MoveOn.org), etc.
 
I know this is an exciting opportunity, but is it really harmonious with our message of restoring private rights to turn the tax man on ITR?

Perhaps it is; I'm undecided. But it is something to think about.
 
I have two problems with sicking the taxman on this organization:

1) Ends justify means? - can we justify sicking the IRS on anybody?

2) Practicality - the ITR is corrupt, and against RP; and the IRS is corrupt and against RP, so it seems that they have those two things in common, why would the IRS ever work against the ITR? I think it is pie in the sky thinking that you are going to get the IRS to do anything against ITR in the next 10 days. They might not do anything forever about this. Neither of the organizations likes RP. So I don't think it's practical to ask the tax enforcement bureacracy to help us with this matter.
 
However, a good lawyer might make a legal case for an injunction against this forum. Or sue for fraud.
 
Pretty thin evidence but does not hurt to seek more info from the proper authorities if excluding a candidate is an implied endorcement of the ones invited.
 
I have two problems with sicking the taxman on this organization:

1) Ends justify means? - can we justify sicking the IRS on anybody?

2) Practicality - the ITR is corrupt, and against RP; and the IRS is corrupt and against RP, so it seems that they have those two things in common, why would the IRS ever work against the ITR? I think it is pie in the sky thinking that you are going to get the IRS to do anything against ITR in the next 10 days. They might not do anything forever about this. Neither of the organizations likes RP. So I don't think it's practical to ask the tax enforcement bureacracy to help us with this matter.

This has nothing to do with federal.
 
Even if we are talking about state level tax authorities, I think we risk being seen as hypocritical if we ask the state to intervene to collect taxes on an organization. I think the voluntary free market of persuasion can work to achieve the goals we want.

If we want to expose this group for its questionable activities, there are plenty of ways to do this. They have discredited themselves, all we need to do is publicize it. This is IMHO, but if you want to do differently, you have the right to call whomever you want.
 
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