In the Shopping Cart of a Food Stamp Household: Lots of Soda

[dannno]

Dial it back to fresh fruits and veggies, meat, maybe rice, pasta and canned goods. Eventually eliminate milk and meat. Never met a fat vegetarian.

Hah that's not accurate.. Meat doesn't make you fat, carbs make you fat. I've known plenty of fat vegetarians. Vegetarians tend to be more healthy than your average person and tend to be skinnier because they tend to focus on eating real foods - vegetables, fruits, nuts, whole grains - and less processed foods.. But there are vegetarians who eat too much sugar, too many highly processed grains and such who are overweight.

I lost over 60 lbs after I became vegetarian and stuck to a mostly veg diet for 10 years, but I lost the weight because I started eating healthier, not because I stopped eating meat. Now I am paleo, I eat tons of meat and literally drink fat and am even more trim and have my weight under better control than when I was vegetarian.. that is because I further cut my carb/sugar intake when I became paleo.

That said, meat is expensive and good cuts are a luxury item. Grains are cheap and are good in times of emergency or famon, and if you're on SNAP then you are lucky you are eating at all so IMO, SNAP should only be able to buy beans (dry), rice, flour, masa, pasta, milk, eggs, canned tuna, fresh veg, fruit, spices and meat that is less than $3/lb like chitlins and pigs feet, drum sticks, ground beef and whatnot. For water, they should only be able to buy the $.35/gallon bulk water from the dispenser, not bottled water.

 

[phill4paul]

So you forfeit your rights to your trash once placed around a publicly accessible space.
The city claims ownership of such trash, but only so far as such items hold inherent value.
Yet the city claims you are responsible to remove all items and trash dumped on or around the premise of your property without your permission or knowledge.

I feel like logic has itself broken here.

The way it works here is that the city contracts a private company for household trash and recyclables. The city has it's own vehicles for limbs and leaves. The contract with the city allows for collecting recycling. So when the recyclables are in the container at the curb they are considered property of the trash company.

 

[oyarde]

We live in a trickle up economy. The poor do not create wealth; they are purely consumers. Similar to SNAP, EIC tax refunds, that go to those who don't pay taxes, also wind up in corporate shareholder accounts. The system is such that middle class taxes subsidize the wealthy.

That is an interesting take . Even greater reason to remove govt from such things .