In conference call, Rand Paul seeks Kentucky GOP support on presidential caucus

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In conference call, Rand Paul seeks Kentucky GOP support on presidential caucus
Lexington Herald-Leader

In March, U.S. Sen. Rand Paul put his odds of winning the Republican presidential nomination at "one in five, one in six."

But on a Thursday night conference call with Republicans who will vote this Saturday on whether to have a presidential caucus next year, Paul adjusted those odds to "one in 10."

Paul, who told callers he was under the weather, called in with nearly 350 members of the Republican Party of Kentucky's state central committee in an effort to persuade them to go ahead with a proposal that would allow him an end-around a state law that prohibits a candidate from appearing on the same ballot twice.

The cost of switching to a caucus, which would allow Paul to run for president and the U.S. Senate at the same time, was a major topic as Republicans wanted to know why Paul had not transferred an initial payment of $250,000 to an RPK account as he said he had in a letter this week.

Republicans wanted to know why Paul was waiting until the proposal passed at the state central committee meeting this Saturday, and Paul responded that there was no need to transfer the money unless Kentucky's Republicans don't trust their junior senator.

Trust emerged as a major theme from Paul, and it appears that will be the crux of his pitch when he tries to convince committee members in person at Saturday's central committee meeting in Frankfort.

Still, Paul was asked several times about the money and whose account it is currently in.

Paul also said he would be raising an additional $125,000 from some big donors within the next week.

The call, which was described to the Herald-Leader by participants, was at times a comedy of errors.

When one caller suggested that costs could be kept down if a caucus location's preference were recorded by a show of hands instead of paper ballot, Paul initially agreed that would save costs until other participants objected, noting a need for a secret ballot in a presidential race.

Paul also raised some eyebrows by suggesting that Republicans pass a bag during the caucuses to raise money to pay for the events.

The senator did not stay on the call the whole time, telling the participants about his recent trip to Haiti and answering a few questions, stressing that he believes a caucus will be good for Kentucky and good for the Republican Party.

After a summer of struggles on the campaign trail, the stakes could not be higher for Paul this Saturday as Republicans will gather at 10 a.m. to cast what is essentially a vote of confidence in Paul.

To that end, Paul is making a last-minute push to try and win support for the new way of awarding presidential delegates, including last week's letter, Thursday night's conference call and a call to supporters to rally in front of the hotel on Saturday morning.

An invitation went out to supporters Thursday asking them gather outside the Capital Plaza Hotel in Frankfort Saturday an hour before the meeting.

"You can make your support for the caucus — and for Rand Paul — loud and clear by showing up in your Rand Paul gear," the invitation said.

Supporters were told that "posters, t-shirts, etc." will be given to early arrivals, and the invitation encouraged them to "please bring a carload of friends and family to show your support for Rand Paul."

Paul will also be making the rounds in Kentucky on Friday, attending events and joining GOP gubernatorial nominee Matt Bevin at a news conference in Somerset on Friday afternoon.

When asked whether Paul was trying to rally supporters to pressure committee members, spokeswoman Kelsey Cooper demurred.

"Rand is going to be in Frankfort on Saturday on the second day of his swing through Kentucky after his medical mission," Cooper said. "While he is looking forward to meeting with the central committee, he is also looking forward to meeting with grassroots supporters before the meeting."


From http://www.kentucky.com/2015/08/20/3997626_rand-paul-asks-supporters-to-rally.html
 
Looks like they are trying to make him look like he is either cheap or doesn't have the money to pay for it. If he transferred the money they can not run a caucus and keep his money or claim that he is bribing them. This is a zero sum game for Rand, that's why I was hoping he would of sacrificed his senate seat this time out and doubled down on the anti Washington candidate... He thought he only had a 10% chance when he was running for senate too.
 
When is it supposed to be? The earlier it is, the better chance they will vote to switch to a caucus.
 
When is it supposed to be? The earlier it is, the better chance they will vote to switch to a caucus.

Huh, (?) the later it is would be best I'd think . . .
KY GOP primary well after Super Tuesday . . . Rand could have alot of delegates by then.
 
An earlier caucus date would get more media attention, because it is more relevant. But I think late Feb early March, they have to be proportional. A winner-take-all state that sets their date that early will get penalized, but they do it because the media is more interested in the beauty contest.
 
Huh, (?) the later it is would be best I'd think . . .
KY GOP primary well after Super Tuesday . . . Rand could have alot of delegates by then.

The other thing about switching to caucus is it would come sooner than the currently scheduled primary so Kentucky would be taken more "seriously", they vote whether they are switching to a caucus on the 22nd. If they vote in the caucus I will be donating to show support because the fact that he is running the dual campaign and the local GOP has been playing this carrot and stick shit has been holding me back.
 
"You can make your support for the caucus — and for Rand Paul — loud and clear by showing up in your Rand Paul gear,"

This is what passes for "activism" in the Rand Paul campaign. And some people thought a blimp was a bad idea.

This does not sound good at all. Unless McConnell intervenes somehow, the committee may well turn this switch down. They don't have the money promised by Paul to run the caucus and it's clear they don't trust him. If they want to inflict a mortal wound on Rand's presidential campaign so they can force him to run for re-election to the Senate, they can do so Saturday at 10 a.m.

So show up in Frankfort with your Rand Paul gear on everyone, this is important:rolleyes:
 
He believes he can win the nomination about as much as he believed he could win the Senate seat in 2010.
 
Honestly, if Rand endorsed a money bomb stating this was going to pay for the caucus I think he could have that amount of money in a couple hours time without even having to lift a finger.. I know the committee folks of Kentucky might not understand that, but since when did any of the republican establishment understand Ron Paul's money making machine? Hell if Rand don't start getting on board with the grassroots fundraising methods, I'll begin to wonder if even he understands. That's not a knock at Rand, just wondering why he hasn't took more advantage of this huge potential for fundraising dollars.
 
Honestly, if Rand endorsed a money bomb stating this was going to pay for the caucus I think he could have that amount of money in a couple hours time without even having to lift a finger.. I know the committee folks of Kentucky might not understand that, but since when did any of the republican establishment understand Ron Paul's money making machine? Hell if Rand don't start getting on board with the grassroots fundraising methods, I'll begin to wonder if even he understands. That's not a knock at Rand, just wondering why he hasn't took more advantage of this huge potential for fundraising dollars.

He could of dumped the money in their accounts already, they have the "bribery" articles all written already just waiting to submit it though. They even put some out yesterday that he was buying an election even though he hasn't deposited one dollar into their banks.
 
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