iMac or Windows PC?

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Do you own an iMac or a Windows PC? If you own both, which one do you use most often and which one do you think it's more user-friendly? :blank:
 
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Do you own an iMac or a Windows PC? If you own both, which one do you use most often and which one do you think it's more user-friendly? :blank:

Long time Windows guy, PC builder, trouble shooter, family (and extended family) tech support.

Recently switch to Mac products. No longer need aspirin.

I do miss my android phones, and some family members still use them, so I help them with those.

Mac has its limitations, but it just WORKS. Always boots up quickly with no issues. Well, there have been a few, but that is mostly because Mac is very proprietary and tries to protect you from malicious software/sites, etc.


I'm sure some will pipe up about more problems with Macs, I just have been happy with it so far and how my iPad, iPhone and Mac Pro all work well together...automatically, little or no fiddling around, and information shows up on all devices.


Might even start a gofundme to get AF on board and some smart devices.
 
Oh, and when my nephew gets a little older, I'm ditching the Playstation, and building him a PC for gaming.
 
Do you own an iMac or a Windows PC? If you own both, which one do you use most often and which one do you think it's more user-friendly? :blank:

At first I thought you were some kind of satirical persona. But then I googled your name and now I think this is the real you.

What led you here to the Ron Paul Forums in 2019?
 
Long time Windows guy, PC builder, trouble shooter, family (and extended family) tech support.

Recently switch to Mac products. No longer need aspirin.

I do miss my android phones, and some family members still use them, so I help them with those.

Mac has its limitations, but it just WORKS. Always boots up quickly with no issues. Well, there have been a few, but that is mostly because Mac is very proprietary and tries to protect you from malicious software/sites, etc.


I'm sure some will pipe up about more problems with Macs, I just have been happy with it so far and how my iPad, iPhone and Mac Pro all work well together...automatically, little or no fiddling around, and information shows up on all devices.


Might even start a gofundme to get AF on board and some smart devices.

This is why I like using Linux. I turn it on and it is ready for work in 5 seconds.

Free is nice too:
https://www.ubuntu.com/
 
This is why I like using Linux. I turn it on and it is ready for work in 5 seconds.

Free is nice too:
https://www.ubuntu.com/

You inspired me to make my annual assessment of distrowatch.com and I see the #1 slot is currently occupied by Manjaro, which is apparently an Arch fork.
I don't know much about Arch - I jumped on the Ubuntu train when it was new, and then jumped off pretty quickly when Debian package manager based builds proliferated and I had a choice of builds with different window managers preinstalled, and have been using Mint for the last few years.
Do you know anything about Arch or their forks, or how robust their Pacman repositories are?
 
At first I thought you were some kind of satirical persona. But then I googled your name and now I think this is the real you.

What led you here to the Ron Paul Forums in 2019?

Probably our progressive views on gender fluid folks.
 
Spend a grand, get a MacBook Air. Wonder for the rest of your life what made you put up with this? :cool:
 
How is Linux for gaming, same games that work on a Windows machine?

Getting better. Steam is on Linux now.

More choice,,more control,, more security.. Been using linux since 2004.

pclinuxos is my favorite distro.. but there are several good ones to chose from.
 
You inspired me to make my annual assessment of distrowatch.com and I see the #1 slot is currently occupied by Manjaro, which is apparently an Arch fork.
I don't know much about Arch - I jumped on the Ubuntu train when it was new, and then jumped off pretty quickly when Debian package manager based builds proliferated and I had a choice of builds with different window managers preinstalled, and have been using Mint for the last few years.
Do you know anything about Arch or their forks, or how robust their Pacman repositories are?

I have only used Mint and Ubuntu. I liked Mint but settled on Ubuntu because that was easier for me to adapt to. I don't know how to do even a faction of the customization that are possible, but it just plain works. I think Mint is popular and I might test other versions again some time, but Ubuntu does what I need.


Company issued iPad, so I had to learn that.

How is Linux for gaming, same games that work on a Windows machine?

I only play Team Fortress 2 on Linux. Steam is all good, but doesn't offer the whole catalog for Linux. I don't know about playing games on Linux without Steam.

I use Windows 10 for Sea of Thieves. In fact it is the only reason I have Windows. I can't stand the slowness and virus issues.

https://store.steampowered.com/linux
 
How is Linux for gaming, same games that work on a Windows machine?

I kicked Bill Gates out of my house in 2003. I was much younger and much sadder about my lack of gaming prospects.
Today I'm fully aware that for the cost of a single gaming rig, I could furnish an entire woodworking shop that would keep me occupied every single free night I have for the rest of my life.

Gaming is much, much better than it used to be. I think it's much safer to jump now than it was back then. But you will definitely find something you want to play and can't, at least until 2030 when everyone finally gets appropriately sick of the ninth total and completely superfluous GUI overhaul on Windows and decides they aren't that into re-learning how to use a computer every 5 years and then discovers the way things get done in Linux hasn't changed since the Reagan era. Then I suspect all the games will finally be there.
 
Neither if you value your privacy. Notice that Microsoft has followed other pioneers like Google, Amazon, Apple, etc. in attaching a store to their operating system. Why? Because the user can be absolutely identified through their purchases. Use GNU Linux if you can at all costs.
 
This is why I like using Linux. I turn it on and it is ready for work in 5 seconds.

Free is nice too:
https://www.ubuntu.com/

You inspired me to make my annual assessment of distrowatch.com and I see the #1 slot is currently occupied by Manjaro, which is apparently an Arch fork.
I don't know much about Arch - I jumped on the Ubuntu train when it was new, and then jumped off pretty quickly when Debian package manager based builds proliferated and I had a choice of builds with different window managers preinstalled, and have been using Mint for the last few years.
Do you know anything about Arch or their forks, or how robust their Pacman repositories are?

Getting better. Steam is on Linux now.

More choice,,more control,, more security.. Been using linux since 2004.

pclinuxos is my favorite distro.. but there are several good ones to chose from.

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I kicked Bill Gates out of my house in 2003. I was much younger and much sadder about my lack of gaming prospects.
Today I'm fully aware that for the cost of a single gaming rig, I could furnish an entire woodworking shop that would keep me occupied every single free night I have for the rest of my life.

Gaming is much, much better than it used to be. I think it's much safer to jump now than it was back then. But you will definitely find something you want to play and can't, at least until 2030 when everyone finally gets appropriately sick of the ninth total and completely superfluous GUI overhaul on Windows and decides they aren't that into re-learning how to use a computer every 5 years and then discovers the way things get done in Linux hasn't changed since the Reagan era. Then I suspect all the games will finally be there.

Wait, the choice presented to you was binary. You are short-circuiting the Madison Avenue attempt by the two big dogs to give themselves a co-monopoly.

If you find a truck that works better for you than Ford or Chevy, if you find a cola that works better for you than Coke or Pepsi, if you find a political party better than Democrat or Republican, if you find a sports organization that does a better job of giving its trophies to its best teams than the AFC and NFC, or if you find a better software than Microsoft or Apple, you're supposed to help Madison Ave. out and keep it to yourself.

What are you trying to do to this nice young newbie--red pill him?
 
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You inspired me to make my annual assessment of distrowatch.com and I see the #1 slot is currently occupied by Manjaro, which is apparently an Arch fork.
I don't know much about Arch - I jumped on the Ubuntu train when it was new, and then jumped off pretty quickly when Debian package manager based builds proliferated and I had a choice of builds with different window managers preinstalled, and have been using Mint for the last few years.
Do you know anything about Arch or their forks, or how robust their Pacman repositories are?

Arch is 17 years old this year, and I have been using Arch pretty much exclusively for the last 15 of those - ever since deciding with great disgust to dump Windows forever after discovering that I had to call Bill Gates and get his permission to reinstall his precious goddam software (Windows XP Pro), which I had already fully paid for. I was pretty sure Linus Torvalds wasn't ever going to pull any shit like that, so ...

"Official" Arch is 64-bit only. (An independently maintained 32-bit Arch is available via an unofficial porting project at archlinux32.org.)

The official binary packages and repositories are excellent, both in quantity and quality. They are "plain vanilla" compilations of upstream sources, with the minimum number of modifications needed (if any) to get them running under Arch. They are kept well up to date, with new packages often being available the same day (or only a day or two after) a new version is released upstream. When there is a known issue with a new package, an item will appear under the "Latest News" section of the front page at archlinux.org (as of the moment I write this, the most recent entry is from July of last year). The package building system is quite easy to use, as well. It's not at all difficult to create a package yourself (or to tweak one that already exists), on the rare occasion when you might be unable to find a title in the official repos or the unsupported AUR (Arch User Repository).

There is no default or preinstalled window manager under Arch. You have to explicitly install whichever one you want (assuming you even want one at all). In fact, you don't even get a window system "out of the box". The same is true of just about everything else, as well - file managers, desktop environments, etc. There are a few defaults for the "base" system needed just to get a "bare naked" command-line system up and running - systemd for the init system and bash for the command shell, for example. You also get vi (not vim) and nano as "out of the box" editors. But beyond a few things like that, it's pretty much entirely up to you what does or doesn't get installed - Arch won't make any of those decisions for you. It doesn't even offer you a limited set of pre-defined alternatives. It assumes that you know what you want and allows you to get just that and nothing else (allowing for dependencies, of course). The price of this is that you have know or learn how to "do it yourself" ...

In fact, Arch is so averse to making pre-defined decisions for you that it doesn't even come with an installer. You have to decide how to partition up and format your drive(s), and then you have to "manually" invoke the partition and formatting commands yourself. I suppose it's most common to install from a bootable Arch ISO image (a new release is made available every month), but I prefer to just use the contents of the arch-install-scripts package (in the official "Extra" repository) under the latest SystemRescueCD.

I don't know anything about any of the Arch forks or other pacman-based distros like Manjaro. I've never used them. I assume that they offer the kinds of things that Arch itself does not - suites of preselected programs, GUI installers that do things like partition and format your drives for you, and the like.
 
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