I'm sick of hearing VA hospitals are a shining example of great gov't care

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Lawmakers Want Answers to Reports of Poor Conditions at Walter Reed Army Hospital

Wednesday, February 21, 2007



WASHINGTON — Lawmakers on Tuesday urged Defense Secretary Robert Gates to respond to reports of poor treatment and conditions for injured troops returning from Iraq and Afghanistan at Walter Reed Army Medical Center.

Sens. Barbara Mikulski, D-Md., and Patty Murray, D-Wash., sent a letter to Gates requesting he investigate the conditions for injured soldiers there, as well as at the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, Md. Rep. Louise Slaughter, D-N.Y., also sent a letter to Gates.

"If conditions at Walter Reed, the crown jewel of military health care facilities, have degraded to the point where mouse traps are handed out to patients, how can we feel confident that our troops and veterans truly have the care and transition assistance they have been promised at any facility across the country?" Mikulski and Murray wrote.

The Washington Post recently reported that the 113-acre institution that serves as a surgical hospital and rehab facility for wounded soldiers is deteriorating. Building 18, which houses hundreds of soldiers recovering from battle wounds, reportedly offers poor living conditions.

"We've done our duty. We fought the war. We came home wounded. Fine. But whoever the people are back here who are supposed to give us the easy transition should be doing it," Marine Sgt. Ryan Groves, 26, an amputee who lived at Walter Reed for 16 months, told the Post. "We don't know what to do. The people who are supposed to know don't have the answers. It's a nonstop process of stalling."

Slaughter said the reports must be addressed immediately.

"It is deeply troubling to think that veterans and their families who have sacrificed so much are being left largely alone to struggle with injuries without the care and attention they need," Slaughter said in a statement. "And while I am glad to hear of changes underway at Walter Reed, it shouldn't take a newspaper exposé to spur action on behalf of our wounded soldiers."

The White House responded to repeated questions from reporters, saying President Bush is concerned about the report.

"The president first learned of the troubling allegations regarding Walter Reed from the stories this weekend in the Washington Post. He is deeply concerned and wants any problems identified and fixed," reads a White House statement.

Bush spokesman Tony Snow said the Department of Defense is reviewing the allegations in response to The Washington Post's series entitled, "The Other Walter Reed."

"The men and women who have gone and fought for our country over there, they deserve the best care," Snow said.

Snow said he wasn't sure how the president learned about the report, but said "we believe that they [troops] deserve better."

"Of course there's outrage that men and women who have been fighting have not received the outpatient care — if you read the stories, there are many who are happy with it, some who are unhappy, and it's important that we show our commitment to the people who have served," Snow said after repeated questions from reporters.

"The president certainly wants to make sure that, as I said before, whatever problems there are get fixed," Snow said.

Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., a routine visitor to Walter Reed and Vietnam War veteran, called the reports "disturbing."

"It is a disservice to those who have bravely sacrificed and it is a dishonor to their brave service to expose them to these conditions. Those who are responsible must be held accountable and immediate rectification must be aggressively pursued," Murtha said in a statement.

Walter Reed Army Medical Center is also investigating the former head of a family assistance program. Click here to read the story.

embedded links throughout the story, see the link to click through to those:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,253154,00.html

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Another story from back then:

'It Is Just Not Walter Reed'
Soldiers Share Troubling Stories Of Military Health Care Across U.S.

By Anne Hull and Dana Priest
Washington Post Staff Writers
Monday, March 5, 2007

Ray Oliva went into the spare bedroom in his home in Kelseyville, Calif., to wrestle with his feelings. He didn't know a single soldier at Walter Reed, but he felt he knew them all. He worried about the wounded who were entering the world of military health care, which he knew all too well. His own VA hospital in Livermore was a mess. The gown he wore was torn. The wheelchairs were old and broken.

"It is just not Walter Reed," Oliva slowly tapped out on his keyboard at 4:23 in the afternoon on Friday. "The VA hospitals are not good either except for the staff who work so hard. It brings tears to my eyes when I see my brothers and sisters having to deal with these conditions. I am 70 years old, some say older than dirt but when I am with my brothers and sisters we become one and are made whole again."

Oliva is but one quaking voice in a vast outpouring of accounts filled with emotion and anger about the mistreatment of wounded outpatients at Walter Reed Army Medical Center. Stories of neglect and substandard care have flooded in from soldiers, their family members, veterans, doctors and nurses working inside the system. They describe depressing living conditions for outpatients at other military bases around the country, from Fort Lewis in Washington state to Fort Dix in New Jersey. They tell stories -- their own versions, not verified -- of callous responses to combat stress and a system ill equipped to handle another generation of psychologically scarred vets.

The official reaction to the revelations at Walter Reed has been swift, and it has exposed the potential political costs of ignoring Oliva's 24.3 million comrades -- America's veterans -- many of whom are among the last standing supporters of the Iraq war. In just two weeks, the Army secretary has been fired, a two-star general relieved of command and two special commissions appointed; congressional subcommittees are lining up for hearings, the first today at Walter Reed; and the president, in his weekly radio address, redoubled promises to do right by the all-volunteer force, 1.5 million of whom have fought in Iraq and Afghanistan.


But much deeper has been the reaction outside Washington, including from many of the 600,000 new veterans who left the service after Iraq and Afghanistan. Wrenching questions have dominated blogs, talk shows, editorial cartoons, VFW spaghetti suppers and the solitary late nights of soldiers and former soldiers who fire off e-mails to reporters, members of Congress and the White House -- looking, finally, for attention and solutions.

Several forces converged to create this intense reaction. A new Democratic majority in Congress is willing to criticize the administration. Senior retired officers pounded the Pentagon with sharp questions about what was going on. Up to 40 percent of the troops fighting in Iraq are National Guard members and reservists -- "our neighbors," said Ron Glasser, a physician and author of a book about the wounded. "It all adds up and reaches a kind of tipping point," he said. On top of all that, America had believed the government's assurances that the wounded were being taken care of. "The country is embarrassed" to know otherwise, Glasser said.

The scandal has reverberated through generations of veterans. "It's been a potent reminder of past indignities and past traumas," said Thomas A. Mellman, a professor of psychiatry at Howard University who specializes in post-traumatic stress and has worked in Veterans Affairs hospitals. "The fact that it's been responded to so quickly has created mixed feelings -- gratification, but obvious regret and anger that such attention wasn't given before, especially for Vietnam veterans."

Across the country, some military quarters for wounded outpatients are in bad shape, according to interviews, Government Accountability Office reports and transcripts of congressional testimony. The mold, mice and rot of Walter Reed's Building 18 compose a familiar scenario for many soldiers back from Iraq or Afghanistan who were shipped to their home posts for treatment. Nearly 4,000 outpatients are currently in the military's Medical Holding or Medical Holdover companies, which oversee the wounded. Soldiers and veterans report bureaucratic disarray similar to Walter Reed's: indifferent, untrained staff; lost paperwork; medical appointments that drop from the computers; and long waits for consultations.

Sandy Karen was horrified when her 21-year-old son was discharged from the Naval Medical Center in San Diego a few months ago and told to report to the outpatient barracks, only to find the room swarming with fruit flies, trash overflowing and a syringe on the table. "The staff sergeant says, 'Here are your linens' to my son, who can't even stand up," said Karen, of Brookeville, Md. "This kid has an open wound, and I'm going to put him in a room with fruit flies?" She took her son to a hotel instead.

"My concern is for the others, who don't have a parent or someone to fight for them," Karen said. "These are just kids. Who would have ever looked in on my son?"

Capt. Leslie Haines was sent to Fort Knox in Kentucky for treatment in 2004 after being flown out of Iraq. "The living conditions were the worst I'd ever seen for soldiers," he said. "Paint peeling, mold, windows that didn't work. I went to the hospital chaplain to get them to issue blankets and linens. There were no nurses. You had wounded and injured leading the troops."

Hundreds of soldiers contacted The Washington Post through telephone calls and e-mails, many of them describing their bleak existence in Medhold.

From Fort Campbell in Kentucky: "There were yellow signs on the door stating our barracks had asbestos."

From Fort Bragg in North Carolina: "They are on my [expletive] like a diaper. . . . there are people getting chewed up everyday."

From Fort Dix in New Jersey: "Scare tactics are used against soldiers who will write sworn statement to assist fellow soldiers for their medical needs."

From Fort Irwin in California: "Most of us have had to sign waivers where we understand that the housing we were in failed to meet minimal government standards."

Soldiers back from Iraq worry that their psychological problems are only beginning to surface. "The hammer is just coming down, I can feel it," said retired Maj. Anthony DeStefano of New Jersey, describing his descent into post-traumatic stress and the Army's propensity to medicate rather than talk. When he returned home, Army doctors put him on the antipsychotic drug Seroquel. "That way, you can screw their lights out and they won't feel a thing," he said of patients like himself. "By the time they understand what is going on, they are through the Board and stuck with an unfavorable percentage of disability" benefits.

Nearly 64,000 of the more than 184,000 Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans who have sought VA health care have been diagnosed with potential symptoms of post-traumatic stress, drug abuse or other mental disorders as of the end of June, according to the latest report by the Veterans Health Administration. Of those, nearly 30,000 have possible post-traumatic stress disorder, the report said.

VA hospitals are also receiving a surge of new patients after more than five years of combat. At the sprawling James J. Peters VA Medical Center in the Bronx, N.Y., Spec. Roberto Reyes Jr. lies nearly immobile and unable to talk. Once a strapping member of Charlie Company, 1st Battalion, 5th Cavalry, Reyes got too close to an improvised explosive device in Iraq and was sent to Walter Reed, where doctors did all they could before shipping him to the VA for the remainder of his life. A cloudy bag of urine hangs from his wheelchair. His mother and his aunt are constant bedside companions; Reyes, 25, likes for them to get two inches from his face, so he can pull on their noses with the few fingers he can still control.


Maria Mendez, his aunt, complained about the hospital staff. "They fight over who's going to have to give him a bath -- in front of him!" she said. Reyes suffered third-degree burns on his leg when a nurse left him in a shower unattended. He was unable to move himself away from the scalding water. His aunt found out only later, when she saw the burns.

Among the most aggrieved are veterans who have lived with the open secret of substandard, underfunded care in the 154 VA hospitals and hundreds of community health centers around the country. They vented their fury in thousands of e-mails and phone calls and in chat rooms.

"I have been trying to get someone, ANYBODY, to look into my allegations" at the Dayton VA, pleaded Darrell Hampton.

"I'm calling from Summerville, South Carolina, and I have a story to tell," began Horace Williams, 62. "I'm a Marine from the Vietnam era, and it took me 20 years to get the benefits I was entitled to."

The VA has a backlog of 400,000 benefit claims, including many concerning mental health. Vietnam vets whose post-traumatic stress has been triggered by images of war in Iraq are flooding the system for help and are being turned away.

For years, politicians have received letters from veterans complaining of bad care across the country. Last week, Walter Reed was besieged by members of Congress who toured the hospital and Building 18 to gain first-hand knowledge of the conditions. Many of them have been visiting patients in the hospital for years, but now they are issuing news releases decrying the mistreatment of the wounded.

Sgt. William A. Jones had recently written to his Arizona senators complaining about abuse at the VA hospital in Phoenix. He had written to the president before that. "Not one person has taken the time to respond in any manner," Jones said in an e-mail.

From Ray Oliva, the distraught 70-year-old vet from Kelseyville, Calif., came this: "I wrote a letter to Senators Feinstein and Boxer a few years ago asking why I had to wear Hospital gowns that had holes in them and torn and why some of the Vets had to ask for beds that had good mattress instead of broken and old. Wheel chairs old and tired and the list goes on and on. I never did get a response."

Oliva lives in a house on a tranquil lake. His hearing is shot from working on fighter jets on the flight line. "Gun plumbers," as they called themselves, didn't get earplugs in the late 1950s, when Oliva served with the Air Force. His hands had been burned from touching the skin of the aircraft. All is minor compared with what he later saw at the VA hospital where he received care.

"I sat with guys who'd served in 'Nam," Oliva said. "We had terrible problems with the VA. But we were all so powerless to do anything about them. Just like Walter Reed."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/04/AR2007030401394.html

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Anyone know if Obama was down on GOVERNMENT CARE when these were the headlines?

I'm guessing he was, since Bush was in the WH.... :rolleyes:

God they all make me sick.

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19 deaths at VA traced to substandard care
Two federal reports find fault with 6 doctors at Ill. hospital

updated 9:51 a.m. CT, Tues., Jan. 29, 2008

ST. LOUIS - Substandard care at a southern Illinois Veterans Affairs hospital may have contributed to 19 deaths over the past two years, a VA official said Monday as he apologized to affected families and pledged reform.

The hospital in Marion, Ill., initially drew scrutiny over deaths connected to a single surgeon, but two federal reports found fault with five other doctors.

The hospital undertook many surgeries that its staffing or lack of proper surgical expertise made it ill-equipped to handle, and hospital administrators were too slow to respond once problems surfaced, said Dr. Michael Kussman, U.S. veterans affairs undersecretary for health.

"I can't tell you how angry we all are and how frustrated we all are. Nothing angers me more than when we don't do the right thing," Kussman told reporters during a conference call after releasing findings of the VA's investigation and summarizing a separate inspector general's probe.

Still, Kussman insisted, "what happened in Marion is an exception to what otherwise is a truly quality health-care system" across the VA.

The VA will help affected families file administrative claims under the VA's disability compensation program, he said. Families also could sue.

The VA investigation found that at least nine deaths between October 2006 and March last year were "directly attributable" to substandard care at the Marion hospital, which serves veterans from southern Illinois, southwestern Indiana and western Kentucky.

Kussman declined to identify those cases by patient or doctor, though Rep. Jerry Costello, an Illinois Democrat, said those nine deaths were linked to two surgeons he did not name.

Of an additional 34 cases the VA investigated, 10 patients who died received questionable care that complicated their health, Kussman said. Investigators could not determine whether the care actually caused the deaths.

Inpatient surgeries have not been performed at the facility since problems first became public last August. They will remain suspended indefinitely, Kussman said.

In pledging reforms, Kussman said the VA has launched an administrative investigatory board to review care problems and matters raised by employee groups.

The VA last September also installed interim administrators to replace the Marion VA's director, chief of staff, chief of surgery and an anesthesiologist, moving them to other positions or placing them on leave, Kussman said. The anesthesiologist has since quit, Kussman said.

"The previous leadership will not return" to their former jobs, he said.

The VA's investigation cited by Kussman covered a two-year span, the VA said.

The inspector general's office blamed three deaths on substandard care at the Marion site, but that review covered only the past fiscal year, which ended in October, the VA said. That report was not immediately available Monday.

Telephone calls on Monday seeking comment from the Marion VA were directed to spokespeople with the agency's Washington headquarters.

Neither Kussman nor the VA investigation's 41 pages of findings named surgeons involved in the deaths, though Kussman acknowledged that much of the criticism has focused on Dr. Jose Veizaga-Mendez.

Patient bled to death after gallbladder surgery
Veizaga-Mendez — identified in Monday's report as "Surgeon A" — resigned from the hospital Aug. 13, three days after a patient from Kentucky bled to death after gallbladder surgery. All inpatient surgeries stopped a short time later.

Sen. Dick Durbin, an Illinois Democrat, has said Veizaga-Mendez is linked to 10 patients' deaths at the Marion facility, about 120 miles southeast of St. Louis. Kussman declined to discuss that claim Monday, saying he didn't want to influence additional internal investigations of six of the site's surgeons he said had "at least one episode of substandard care."

Veizaga-Mendez and another surgeon no longer practice at the Marion VA. The remaining four surgeons remain on staff but are "only doing minor cases at this time," Kussman said.

"We don't think the physicians killed the patients," he said. "We think the physicians were trying to care for the patients and did so in an inadequate way."

Costello and fellow Rep. John Shimkus, a Republican from Collinsville, Ill., called Monday's findings "shocking." Durbin said the reports "confirm what many of us in Illinois feared" — that the Marion VA's medical care was substandard and that protocol for protecting patients was ignored.

"As the inspectors who reviewed the Marion hospital put it, the quality of care at Marion was 'horrible,'" Durbin said.

Doctor had been barred from practicing
Veizaga-Mendez's whereabouts are unclear. He has no listed telephone number and has been unreachable for comment.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22896435/

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Well, you sure found the right cure for that crap! Great samples!

P.S. The really sad and scary thing is, they are a shining example of how well the fedgov does things...
 
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Flashback:

VA Hospitals Botching Medical Treatments


The New American
25 June 2009


The Department of Veterans Affairs is at the center of a growing controversy over the improper treatment of veterans at VA hospitals. On June 16, CNN noted that a report released in June by the VA’s Office of Inspector General showed only “about 42.5 percent of 42 VA facilities inspected without warning in May had standard operating procedures in place for the equipment being used and could demonstrate that their staffs had been trained to use the devices.” In other words, more than half of the institutions (57.5 percent) had improper procedures or training.

This would explain why a previous study found that more than 10,000 veterans who underwent routine colonoscopy procedures at four VA hospitals in Florida, Georgia, and Tennessee had possibly been exposed to hepatitis and HIV viruses. Fifty-three of these veterans have so far tested positive for either hepatitis or HIV. Though some of them could have been infected in other ways, the improper cleaning procedures used with the colonoscopy equipment does point the finger of blame toward the VA hospitals.

On June 24, FOXNews.com reported that the American Legion, which regularly visits and inspects VA hospitals, is investigating a different scandal at the medical center in Philadelphia. Joe Wilson, deputy director of the Veterans Affairs and Rehabilitation Commission for the American Legion, says that doctors at the Philadelphia center gave 92 out of 116 veterans incorrect dosages of radiation for prostate cancer over a span of six years. The physicians responsible for the repeated mistakes were finally discovered and fired last year, but that may be small comfort for those 92 veterans.

VA officials have responded with regret and vowed to do better. CNN quoted Dr. William Duncan, the VA’s associate deputy undersecretary for health quality and safety, as saying, “I cannot guarantee to any veteran that they will not have an adverse event occur in our facility. I can guarantee that we are dedicated to reducing those adverse events to the lowest possible level and we take this extremely seriously.” Representative Tim Walz (D-Minn.) was not satisfied: “I know we talk about adverse events, but going in for a routine colonoscopy and later being told you have HIV is not just an adverse event. That’s absolutely catastrophic.”

The American Legion’s Wilson told FOXNews.com that lack of oversight and poor funding are part of the problem. “The average age of VA facilities is about 49 years,” Wilson said. “That's too old. In the private sector the average age of facilities is about 12 years.” The Philadelphia medical center is 57 years old. Too often the limited funding that is available must go to repairs and maintenance. The Philadelphia incidents, though, were primarily the result of physicians being improperly trained and supervised. The New York Times reported on June 20 that one doctor, Gary Kao, not only failed to report the errors he was making, he rewrote his surgical plans to cover up his mistakes.

America’s veterans deserve much better than this. But with government in charge and largely left to police itself, improvements in care may be hard to sustain. It is strange, then, that President Barack Obama wants to subject all Americans to a government-run, public healthcare plan when the VA scandals prove that government is certainly not the best provider of healthcare. If this is how the federal government treats those who have sacrificed life and limb for their country, imagine how responsive it will be to the average American in need of treatment.


SOURCE:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/health-care/1292
 
I honestly cannot remember hearing anyone say they liked their experience at a VA Hospital, but I sure remember a lot saying the opposite.
 
I have a room mate right now that says he really likes the VA health care plan. I think they have him on too many meds though...:p

I just told him that I wrote this and he says everyone can kiss his @$$
 
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I have a room mate right now that says he really likes the VA health care plan. I think they have him on too many meds though...:p

I just told him that I wrote this and he says everyone can kiss his @$$

Wait until he needs life saving surgery.
 
And Teddy Kennedy's unarrested tumor is another shining example of the crap.
 
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