IL-Girl rats out pair of 16 y/o having sex, cop threatens boy, who commits suicide

[Valli6]

There's so much wrong with this paragraph I don't know where to start....
Kops have no business in schools, and it's not only illegal to talk to an unaccompanied minor it's unethical...
Then....

Rape? Where does one get "rape" from consensual sex?

Are you trying to equate audio sharing to actual "rape"?

She consented to have sex with one specific person. She did not consent to perform a sex act so that it could be recorded and then viewed and discussed, over and over again, by who-knows-how-many of this little bastard's friends. This wasn't going to stop till someone intervened.

Do you think it was just a little joke on her and that she can just shrug her shoulders and move on? I assure you this girl is no less devastated than if she'd experienced forceful insertion. There’s a claim that some non-participating individual told authorities about it. If so, was it some trouble making busy-body? Or was it one of the girl’s friends - who’s now witnessing how distraught her friend is and listening to her talk about suicide?

Do some of you think she deserves what’s happened because she’s a “slut”?
She had sex one time that we know of. This is not a clue into what kind of person she is.

Do you think “it’s her own fault” and “she should’ve known better”?
She probably thinks the same thing herself... all day long. But what she needed to know, was that this kid was lying about what he was planning to do to her!

I see plenty of pity for this cruel and deceitful boy - “He was just a kid!” “His whole future… blah blah blah!” etc. So, where does this idea come from, that it was up to the female kid - of the same age - who had no ill-intentions - to be all level-headed and virginal here?! Yes, this is a double standard. Recognize it.

And no, I have no interest in redefining words or creating new laws. I believe there are already laws against secretly filming someone having sex and then publicizing the video. The kid broke that law and that’s the reason a cop was involved. Nothing shocking about that. I couldn't give 1/2 of a shit about how meanly the cop spoke to him. Unfortunate that the kid made the choices he did.

I think people are being misled by the way the narrative is laid out in these two articles - which I bet were initiated by the family’s lawyer in preparation of a lawsuit! It is biased! The girl is essentially edited out of the story because they need to make this rotten kid look more sympathetic in order to win.

I perceive that this boy intentionally and maliciously harmed this girl. He was not the victim.

 

[specsaregood]

She consented to have sex with one specific person. She did not consent to perform a sex act so that it could be recorded and then viewed and discussed, over and over again, by who-knows-how-many of this little bastard's friends. This wasn't going to stop till someone intervened.

Citation? Where is your proof that what you claim above is true? TIA.

You've never had a female suggest filming your bang session and sharing it with others? Some women get off on it and girls nowadays are freaks I hear.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Citation? Where is your proof that what you claim above is true? TIA.

Exactly.

And even if any of it was true, what right does the cop have to feed him false information to deliberately terrorize the kid.

Some women get off on it and girls nowadays are freaks I hear.

If half of what I hear floating around, from my own kid's peers, other parents and young adults, is true, they have long since passed the point of "freaky" and have moved into being just downright, depraved trash now.

 

[Ender]

She consented to have sex with one specific person. She did not consent to perform a sex act so that it could be recorded and then viewed and discussed, over and over again, by who-knows-how-many of this little bastard's friends. This wasn't going to stop till someone intervened.

Do you think it was just a little joke on her and that she can just shrug her shoulders and move on? I assure you this girl is no less devastated than if she'd experienced forceful insertion. There’s a claim that some non-participating individual told authorities about it. If so, was it some trouble making busy-body? Or was it one of the girl’s friends - who’s now witnessing how distraught her friend is and listening to her talk about suicide?

Do some of you think she deserves what’s happened because she’s a “slut”?
She had sex one time that we know of. This is not a clue into what kind of person she is.

Do you think “it’s her own fault” and “she should’ve known better”?
She probably thinks the same thing herself... all day long. But what she needed to know, was that this kid was lying about what he was planning to do to her!

I see plenty of pity for this cruel and deceitful boy - “He was just a kid!” “His whole future… blah blah blah!” etc. So, where does this idea come from, that it was up to the female kid - of the same age - who had no ill-intentions - to be all level-headed and virginal here?! Yes, this is a double standard. Recognize it.

And no, I have no interest in redefining words or creating new laws. I believe there are already laws against secretly filming someone having sex and then publicizing the video. The kid broke that law and that’s the reason a cop was involved. Nothing shocking about that. I couldn't give 1/2 of a $#@! about how meanly the cop spoke to him. Unfortunate that the kid made the choices he did.

I think people are being misled by the way the narrative is laid out in these two articles - which I bet were initiated by the family’s lawyer in preparation of a lawsuit! It is biased! The girl is essentially edited out of the story because they need to make this rotten kid look more sympathetic in order to win.

I perceive that this boy intentionally and maliciously harmed this girl. He was not the victim.

Talk about ASSuming.

NO ONE here is blaming the girl- but to deny that the cop was responsible for this death and to say that the boy deserved it, is one of the most hideous statements I have ever read on this forum.

First of all, it wasn't visual- only sound. And for all we know neither of them had "sex" but made a lot of noise to pull a gag on their friends.

Let us pray that something like this doesn't happen to you or your loved ones-

Karma's a bitch.

 

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Keep the neg reps coming pls because obviously the cop forced the 16-year-old punk to illegally record him having sex with her without her knowledge and then passing the tape around. You know some girls commit suicide over the embarrassment of these kind of things right?

 

[specsaregood]

Keep the neg reps coming pls because obviously the cop forced the 16-year-old punk to illegally record him having sex with her without her knowledge and then passing the tape around. You know some girls commit suicide over the embarrassment of these kind of things right?

So you've seen the tape? Because the op article states that you can't see anything and it's just audio. What's illegal about an audio recording? Why do you think it was without her knowledge?

 

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

I guess you wouldn't mind me bugging your home and recording you without your consent then. When I was 16 I knew the difference between right and wrong. This is natural selection at its finest.

 

[specsaregood]

I guess you wouldn't mind me bugging your home and recording you without your consent then. When I was 16 I knew the difference between right and wrong. This is natural selection at its finest.

Most states are one party consent states, so as long as one party knows and approves of the recording, it is perfectly legal. this is different from bugging a home as you would not be a party to the conversation.

The first time I made a home video of a sex act, the girl is the one that suggested it. That very well may have been the case here.

 

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Nowhere in the article does it suggest that she said it was ok for him to record it let alone share it with all his friends. He's a piece of shit.

 

[specsaregood]

Nowhere in the article does it suggest that she said it was ok for him to record it let alone share it with all his friends. He's a piece of shit.

Nowhere does it say she didn't talk him into recording it and sharing it with the world. Nowhere does it say it was without her knowledge or contain anything illegal, yet you made both claims.

 

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

I'm not doing this lol

 

[The Rebel Poet]

No one here is a copsucker, we just agree that the kid was a pile of shit for recording him and the girl having sex without her consent and then spreading it around, without her consent. 16 is old enough to know that shit is wrong.

Keep the neg reps coming pls because obviously the cop forced the 16-year-old punk to illegally record him having sex with her without her knowledge and then passing the tape around. You know some girls commit suicide over the embarrassment of these kind of things right?

I guess you wouldn't mind me bugging your home and recording you without your consent then. When I was 16 I knew the difference between right and wrong. This is natural selection at its finest.

I ask again when she told you it was without consent or knowledge? If you don't remember the exact date and time she told you could you give us a ballpark? Did you talk to her yesturday? Last week? When was it and what all did she tell you?

 

[The Rebel Poet]

Nowhere in the article does it suggest that she said it was ok for him to record it let alone share it with all his friends. He's a piece of shit.

Nowhere in the article does it suggest that he said it was ok for her to not record it let alone not share it with all her friends. She's a piece of shit.

Nowhere in the article does it suggest that she said it was ok for her friend to tell anyone let alone the authorities. Her friend's a piece of shit.

Nowhere in the article does it suggest that she likes Ron Paul. She's a statist piece of shit.

Nowhere in the article does it suggest that Donald Trump ran for president let alone won. The author's an election denier.

Nowhere in the article does it suggest that you exist. You don't exist.


Do you see how this logic works?

 

[ARealConservative]

I note just about everyone in this story is an asshole

the boy. the girl who ran to the principal. the principal. and the cop who thought he would teach a lesson rather then do his job.

file this one under mean people suck.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Hell, the cop probably threatened him and told him he was going to jail, after seeing movies and being in a culture that celebrates prison rape, the kid probably thought he was looking at a future of getting raped in prison for years. Its no surprise he took his own life. The cop shouldn't have been talking to him without his parents, at all!

Uh, everything you typed in this post is completely and totally wrong. Listen to what everybody else is saying, it had nothing to do with him sharing a sex tape and everything to do with being labelled a sex offender for the rest of his life.. he could get raped in prison, he could have to go around to all his neighbors houses in the future and explain to them that he is a sex offender, that is all MUCH worse than an audio sex tape going around high school.

Lurid stories of prison rape I'm sure.

No telling what kind of threats were made. And something not mentioned in the thread is that apparently they had his phone and had asked for his mom's permission to "download". Did they threaten him with a fishing expedition on his phone? A threat of charges or investigation of anything and everything they found on his phone? His Snapchat or IM history? Everything he ever looked at on the internet? Maybe some evidence of underage drinking or drug use that would snare even more people?

The fact we know is that the kid showed a blurry video to a group of kids and told them he had sex with the girl. That, alone, makes him a jerk. If he had kept a private act private....but no, he has to brag...

Man enough to have sex, but not man enough to be interrogated without mommy? You can't have it both ways. Keep up with the name calling. It's pretty clear where the bias is.

If the reports are correct that the video was not consensual, and he was showing it around, she has a valid reason to complain, and confront him or turn him in to school officials, as he was showing it at school.

As far as your opinion of a "private act" among teenagers, it does not reflect reality. In the real world, his friends would know, her friends would know. It's not the kind of thing that remains secret. Anyone who has sex and expects it to remain completely secret in High School is delusional.

 

[Valli6]

Am I the only one that checked the link to the Chicago Tribune?

On Jan. 11, records show, a female classmate told a dean that she had learned that Corey had a recording of a sexual encounter they had shortly before Christmas, and believed he had played it for friends. Police described her as "mortified," according to the coroner's report.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-naperville-north-suicide-20170522-story.html

“On Jan. 11… she had learned” means she had not known about the film earlier, so obviously, he had not told her he was going to record her. She never consented to any of it. I didn't "assume" this.

“a sexual encounter they had shortly before Christmas” indicates that the person who reported the incident, is the same one who had the sexual encounter - the "mortified" girl.

Finally, she wouldn't have been "mortified" if she had consented to being filmed and exhibited.

Talk about ASSuming.
NO ONE here is blaming the girl- but to deny that the cop was responsible for this death and to say that the boy deserved it, is one of the most hideous statements I have ever read on this forum.

Blaming the girl? That wasn't my point. The comments were giving me the sense that no one considered what this kid did to be a serious agression against another human being, and that therefore, the kid deserved to be treated in a friendly and reassuring manner. Earlier in the thread, everyone was saying it was a just a case of consensual sex and neither participant was upset. That wasn't accurate. And for-crying-out-loud! I absolutely never said that he deserved to die! Why did you post that?!

I do think it was necessary to confront him and a 16 year old should be able to handle being spoken to in angry tone. Talk about "snowflakes" - You can't yell someone into committing suicide over the course of a single morning! It's preposterous! The boy had problems. Millions of kids get verbally hammered every day without committing suicide over it.

So you've seen the tape? Because the op article states that you can't see anything and it's just audio. What's illegal about an audio recording? Why do you think it was without her knowledge?

See link above. Whether it's audio or video, is probably insignificant to the person who never consented to being made into a side show. They wouldn't keep watching it if there were literally nothing there.

 

[tod evans]

Blaming the girl? That wasn't my point. The comments were giving me the sense that no one considered what this kid did to be a serious agression against another human being, and that therefore, the kid deserved to be treated in a friendly and reassuring manner. Earlier in the thread, everyone was saying it was a just a case of consensual sex and neither participant was upset. That wasn't accurate. And for-crying-out-loud! I absolutely never said that he deserved to die! Why did you post that?!

Now who's twisting and misrepresenting?

You people who use phrases like "serious aggression" generally have a screw loose to begin with.

ag·gres·sion
əˈɡreSHən/Submit
noun
hostile or violent behavior or attitudes toward another; readiness to attack or confront.
"his chin was jutting with aggression"
synonyms: hostility, aggressiveness, belligerence, bellicosity, force, violence; More
the action or an act of attacking without provocation.
plural noun: aggressions
"he called for an end to foreign aggression against his country"
forceful and sometimes overly assertive pursuit of one's aims and interests.
synonyms: confidence, self-confidence, boldness, determination, forcefulness, vigor, energy, zeal
"he played the game with unceasing aggression"

Then who has claimed that neither party was "upset" prior to the sharing of the recording?

Both of us can read IN THE OP where the author says the sex was consensual...

As for the kop...........Threatening a minor with literally a life sentence for braggadocio is NOT "being spoken to angrily...

There's plenty of blame to go around with this incident, I focus the brunt of my blame on everyone who advocates for kops in schools and specifically on the kop in question.

 

[Valli6]

Now who's twisting and misrepresenting?
You people who use phrases like "serious aggression" generally have a screw loose to begin with.

ag·gres·sion
əˈɡreSHən/Submit
noun
hostile or violent behavior or attitudes toward another; readiness to attack or confront.
"his chin was jutting with aggression"
synonyms: hostility, aggressiveness, belligerence, bellicosity, force, violence; More
the action or an act of attacking without provocation.
plural noun: aggressions
"he called for an end to foreign aggression against his country"
forceful and sometimes overly assertive pursuit of one's aims and interests.
synonyms: confidence, self-confidence, boldness, determination, forcefulness, vigor, energy, zeal
"he played the game with unceasing aggression"

Then who has claimed that neither party was "upset" prior to the sharing of the recording?

Both of us can read IN THE OP where the author says the sex was consensual...
As for the kop...........Threatening a minor with literally a life sentence for braggadocio is NOT "being spoken to angrily...

There's plenty of blame to go around with this incident, I focus the brunt of my blame on everyone who advocates for kops in schools and specifically on the kop in question.

Here are more definitions of aggression.

the action or an act of attacking without provocation.

It doesn't only apply to unprovoked physical acts. Intentionally inflicting damage on another person, their character, or their property is aggression.

forceful and sometimes overly assertive pursuit of one's aims and interests.

Yeah, when your main goal is to create a sex video you can amuse your friends with - without an okay from one participant - I suppose you can refer to that as being "overly assertive". It FORCES one person to be part of something they disapprove of - LIKE SLAVERY!

I get ya about phrases like "serious aggression". The term is over used, but also succinct. I get the impression that few here recognize how truly traumatic it must've been for this girl to have the sex video spread around - and spread by someone she had trusted. It’s a whole lot more upsetting than some empty threat about being labeled a pedophile or sexual predator! (Pffffft! Don’t make me laugh.) If you're going to lump me in with some set of “you people” for using a word that's been bastardized by SJWs - eh, whatever. I shrug.

The OP characterizes the event as an issue of consensual sex, and downplays the initial injury - the sleazy act of secretly creating and exhibiting a sex video without consent from one participant. Most of you went along with this.

The OP also tries to make it sound like the incident was reported to officials by some uninvolved third party who wanted to create a problem where none had previously existed. Nope. According to the original story, this isn’t correct.

The earlier article tells us more clearly that the duped girl is the one who reported it. She was “mortified” and wanted to stop him from showing the video but he wouldn’t delete it. Outside of murdering the kid, she had no recourse other than going to the principle so that they would deal with him. It couldn’t have been easy for her. Again, most of you fell for the sloppy, incorrect version.

The original story was linked to in the OP (offsite) and I’ve posted it several more times but no one seems interested in details.
Here it is again: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-naperville-north-suicide-20170522-story.html
The sloppiness of the error in the OP casts doubt on the credibility of the whole story. And all the quotes comes from either the parents or the lawyer. That tells me that this is not a reliable representation of what actually happened. All the claims about him being “scared to death” come directly from the parents and lawyer. None of it comes from the kid. It’s nothing but a theory and I don’t find it plausible.

I don’t believe any reasonably stable person - even a much younger child - could be driven to suicide by a brief episode of strong verbal assault or any verbal threat whatsoever. Nope. It’s just not realistic. The record shows this talk was only 18 minutes long! The kid had some other problem. I doubt it’s just a coincidence that he walked directly to that particular building that day. He’d already made a mental note that it was a good place to jump.
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HEY ANYONE! Don’t post asking me for citations. You wanna see a citation? Click on the GD link I posted and read!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-naperville-north-suicide-20170522-story.htm