I still see NO reasons why a DC March is the right thing to do

[AJ Antimony]

Throughout all these threads and posts about a March on DC, I haven't seen ANY that explain why a DC March is the best thing to do.

In other words, what assures you that a march on Washington is the best way to use our money, time, and resources?

According to Devvy Kid, marching in Washington is a waste of time. She provides many logical reasons as well as first hand experience to explain why this is so.

She instead proposes to march in St. Paul at the Republican Convention, where the media will be there guaranteed. Again she supports this with logic, noting that travel to St. Paul would be cheaper than travel to DC.

I've posted this before and I'm doing so again: Why is a DC march more efficient than a St. Paul march?

 

[RWBlue-Travis]

I see NO real reason why not.

What the Washington Rally really needs is your conviction and focus.

There is no single 'best' solution, don't kid yourself with an idea of perfection or look at Washington as the only/last stand, because if you do, then you will only set yourself up for disappointment.

We've gained momentum, allow the steam to build, start your engines in Washington. Continue onward to your State Capitol, to your home town, and even St. Paul, settle for no limit. Use fear of failure to drive you, not to stop you.

The Rally should be directly for us, our celebration, our protest, and our march. The media coverage is simply an indirect result of our continued championing.

Keep your expectations low and your eyes open.

 

[AJ Antimony]

I appreciate your response but it still does not answer why marching in DC is better than marching in St. Paul.

 

[pcosmar]

It was recommended by Ron Paul.
There will be several events this year, pick what best suits your resources and time.

 

[RWBlue-Travis]

My statement was not to lift the DC Rally on a pedestal over St. Paul, but rather, why not be equivalents? Why settle for one, when both ARE possible.

You could look at it this way, 'Washington is to Normandy, as St. Paul is to Berlin.'

My aim is not to object, but to encourage.

Edit: The 'Washington is to Nomrandy' bit shouldn't be taken as encouragement for violence.

 

[Joseph Hart]

I believe Ron Paul knows the actual number of supporters. If the support is out there they will respond by showing up at the "Revolution March." Stop pondering why and understand that one more voice needs to heard... YOURS. Say nothing, you'll get nothing.

 

[AJ Antimony]

Why settle for one, when both ARE possible.

Both are possible? Two round trip plane tickets plus two hotel stints plus all the other money needed on trips for food and transportation? I don't see it happening...

 

[AJ Antimony]

I believe Ron Paul knows the actual number of supporters. If the support is out there they will respond by showing up at the "Revolution March." Stop pondering why and understand that one more voice needs to heard... YOURS. Say nothing, you'll get nothing.

Did you actually read Kid's article and march suggestions?

 

[flames2dust77]

why is not the right thing to do? i believe there is enough support out there for all of the events...even the RNC. i personally am not thinking of the march as a way to try and get media coverage...if a person thinks realistically and logically at it; hardly any marches in DC get media coverage. BUT, i do see it as a way for all freedom and liberty loving individuals(not just RP supporters) to come together and feel united and it will be a reminder of what we're working for. i feel it might breathe new life into the revolution. we will soon know after the april 15th rally what the outcome is and whether or not we need to adjust our thinking. we can still have the spring march, summer march, and RNC march. who says we can't? anything is possible and i'm going to try and stay open to those possibilities.

and yes...i read that article a few weeks ago.

 

[pcosmar]

Both are possible? Two round trip plane tickets plus two hotel stints plus all the other money needed on trips for food and transportation? I don't see it happening...

I will be hitch hiking to DC and living out of my pack. I would not buy airplane ticket even if I could afford one.

 

[pcosmar]

Did you actually read Kid's article and march suggestions?

No, I heard Ron Paul.
Who the heck is this Kid?

 

[wowabunga]

She instead proposes to march in St. Paul at the Republican Convention, where the media will be there guaranteed. Again she supports this with logic, noting that travel to St. Paul would be cheaper than travel to DC.

And why will a march to St. Paul be a good use of resources, time or money ?

Finally someone has taken the time and effort to produce a "video" that is brilliant and everyone is raving about the 3D animation.... and they should be as it's got that magic touch.

What would happen if we the grass roots pulled out our collective idea machine and together created a DVD and / or a Newspaper that was exceptionally brilliant. Then we could take our monies and make truck loads of these messages. Jefferson wrote that a educated populace is the best warranty against tyranny. My efforts in this Revolution will be here at home in Missouri educating and awakening my neighbors.

Maybe I could put this another way.... I WANT SOME LITERATURE and a DVD that I can hand to my neighbors that really opens their minds. Leaves them hungry for the truth wanting more.

 

[AJ Antimony]

No, I heard Ron Paul.
Who the heck is this Kid?

See the link in the OP

 

[AJ Antimony]

And why will a march to St. Paul be a good use of resources, time or money ?

Finally someone has taken the time and effort to produce a "video" that is brilliant and everyone is raving about the 3D animation.... and they should be as it's got that magic touch.

What would happen if we the grass roots pulled out our collective idea machine and together created a DVD and / or a Newspaper that was exceptionally brilliant. Then we could take our monies and make truck loads of these messages. Jefferson wrote that a educated populace is the best warranty against tyranny. My efforts in this Revolution will be here at home in Missouri educating and awakening my neighbors.

Maybe I could put this another way.... I WANT SOME LITERATURE and a DVD that I can hand to my neighbors that really opens their minds. Leaves them hungry for the truth wanting more.

You're right, a march in general is probably a poor use of resources and I've seen people say this before. But since people really want to march (and it is a good idea if enough people show), I believe St. Paul is better stomping grounds than DC.

 

[AJ Antimony]

why is not the right thing to do? i believe there is enough support out there for all of the events...even the RNC. i personally am not thinking of the march as a way to try and get media coverage...if a person thinks realistically and logically at it; hardly any marches in DC get media coverage. BUT, i do see it as a way for all freedom and liberty loving individuals(not just RP supporters) to come together and feel united and it will be a reminder of what we're working for. i feel it might breathe new life into the revolution. we will soon know after the april 15th rally what the outcome is and whether or not we need to adjust our thinking. we can still have the spring march, summer march, and RNC march. who says we can't? anything is possible and i'm going to try and stay open to those possibilities.

and yes...i read that article a few weeks ago.

1. Yes, so if we are going to march, shouldn't we kill two birds with one stone and get it media attention in St. Paul?

2. We came together to raise a record $6 million in one day.

 

[hotbrownsauce]

Throughout all these threads and posts about a March on DC, I haven't seen ANY that explain why a DC March is the best thing to do.

In other words, what assures you that a march on Washington is the best way to use our money, time, and resources?

According to Devvy Kid, marching in Washington is a waste of time. She provides many logical reasons as well as first hand experience to explain why this is so.

She instead proposes to march in St. Paul at the Republican Convention, where the media will be there guaranteed. Again she supports this with logic, noting that travel to St. Paul would be cheaper than travel to DC.

I've posted this before and I'm doing so again: Why is a DC march more efficient than a St. Paul march?

I suggest to anyone who believes something the grassroots plans is not the right move to themselves plan or do something they think would be a good move.

I would argue just as many do, the best way for us to know what we want to do is have people arrange their own events and people can go to the ones who they think are more effective.
But then we get the people who think not going to just one event (disbursed numbers in several events) loses our significance.

I personally believe and know it to be true, no matter how big or small anything we do to spread liberty is good. I don't think any time put into something that spreads any amount of liberty is a waste. I admit I may not believe all forms of spreading every idea. This is why I pick and choose which events I would like to participate in.

I do think any way you or I choose to spread liberty in the best ethical way you know how is better than not at all. Its better than holding anybody back. I say the more numbers, the better no matter where and how they spread liberty.

NOTE:
These events for liberty will be of high or low volume depending on what the events are and where they are. Just because they attach the ideas Ron Paul has to it doesn't mean they can't have their way. Allow the creative process and thoughts of everyone to flurish. I think this is the best idea because we preach that freedom of choice is critical. Although we have freedom of speech and expression I think using it (all though legal) will represent us as a unstable, undesired, extreme group of nut jobs and could only hurt us.

 

[AJ Antimony]

I suggest to anyone who believes something the grassroots plans is not the right move to themselves plan or do something they think would be a good move.

I would argue just as many do, the best way for us to know what we want to do is have people arrange their own events and people can go to the ones who they think are more effective.
But then we get the people who think not going to just one event (disbursed numbers in several events) loses our significance.

I personally believe and know it to be true, no matter how big or small anything we do to spread liberty is good. I don't think any time put into something that spreads any amount of liberty is a waste. I admit I may not believe all forms of spreading every idea. This is why I pick and choose which events I would like to participate in.

I do think any way you or I choose to spread liberty in the best ethical way you know how is better than not at all. Its better than holding anybody back. I say the more numbers, the better no matter where and how they spread liberty.

NOTE:
These events for liberty will be of high or low volume depending on what the events are and where they are. Just because they attach the ideas Ron Paul has to it doesn't mean they can't have their way. Allow the creative process and thoughts of everyone to flurish. I think this is the best idea because we preach that freedom of choice is critical. Although we have freedom of speech and expression I think using it (all though legal) will represent us as a unstable, undesired, extreme group of nut jobs and could only hurt us.

I appreciate the response and I see your point.

The sense I am getting in these boards is that a march on DC has been accepted. I believe we all need to stop and think about this before we fully commit to DC. With all the money that will be spent on getting the unknown number of people to the march, will the march be more productive in DC or St. Paul?

Again, all I am asking for in this thread is, if we, RP Nation, are committing to hold a grand March, then why is DC a better place to have it than St. Paul?

 

[flames2dust77]

1. Yes, so if we are going to march, shouldn't we kill two birds with one stone and get it media attention in St. Paul?

2. We came together to raise a record $6 million in one day.

1. But why can't we have both? Like the poster above me says, people will pick and choose what events they see fit. I personally wll not be in St. Paul. I believe things have the potential to get nasty there...I really do. Law enforcement there has already purchased over 300 laser guns in preperation for the RNC. I am personally not going to risk my son's safety. If I was single with no children...different story. I'd risk being tasered and thrown in jail for the cause, most definitely.

2. Indeed we did come together to raise $6 mill in one day....and wow, it gave us some awesome momentum and steam we needed. You do realize how much support has dropped off, correct? Why not have an event like the march to unify people again? The people really do need it. jmo.

 

[hotbrownsauce]

I appreciate the response and I see your point.

The sense I am getting in these boards is that a march on DC has been accepted. I believe we all need to stop and think about this before we fully commit to DC. With all the money that will be spent on getting the unknown number of people to the march, will the march be more productive in DC or St. Paul?

Again, all I am asking for in this thread is, if we, RP Nation, are committing to hold a grand March, then why is DC a better place to have it than St. Paul?

St. Paul is the National Republican caucus location correct?

That would be a great location too, I would be willing to go to both events if possible. Either one would have an impact.

I agree thinking about decisions before fully committing is a good idea. I like the idea of the March on DC, it was the only big significant thing I saw planned that I could actually attend. I think it won't get the exposure we'd all like it too nor the St. Paul area. But we would still get attention. People in congress would understand that Paul has weight to his message and it might give him and his ideas more respect in congress and hopefully a philosophical change in the government as we are all pressing for.

I think we should all have huge e-mailings and posting bombs anywhere and everywhere we individual can think of including news papers, news channels, representatives, right before we go that way everyone is watching and curious what the Ron Paul revolution will do next. We already are known as a huge following of loyal supporters. We are a force and the media has admitted to it. I think this mass e-mailing and writing could only add that much more of an impact.

 

[hotbrownsauce]

I can see it now, this will be the biggest thing since our huge record breaking money bomb.

"Ron Paul Revolutionaries at it again
This time instead of a money bomb its a march bomb"